BearPenn2010 Posted September 20, 2016 #1 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Has anyone ever seen this on their many cruises... https://youtu.be/pAMYeRqy5DA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lido_Deck Posted September 20, 2016 #2 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Has anyone ever seen this on their many cruises...https://youtu.be/pAMYeRqy5DA It was a private jet so obviously the owner had some friends on the cruise in The Haven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzCanuck Posted September 20, 2016 #3 Share Posted September 20, 2016 There was a big thread about it when it happened. Wasn't a private jet - it was a French military jet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don24 Posted September 20, 2016 #4 Share Posted September 20, 2016 (edited) There was a big thread about it when it happened. Wasn't a private jet - it was a French military jet. there is no way in heck thats any kind of milita, wait you said french military .sure why not. Edited September 20, 2016 by don24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diane123boys Posted September 21, 2016 #5 Share Posted September 21, 2016 there is no way in heck thats any kind of milita, wait you said french military .sure why not. Read the complete article - Yes French http://bernews.com/2016/06/video-posted-plane-buzzes-norwegian-cruise-ship-bermuda/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easyboy Posted September 21, 2016 #6 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Has anyone ever seen this on their many cruises...https://youtu.be/pAMYeRqy5DA None yet. But we will be bothered if we did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreestyleNovice Posted September 21, 2016 #7 Share Posted September 21, 2016 None yet. But we will be bothered if we did. Not sure why nobody is bothered when a NYPD helicopter circles the ship in NY but are when an allied marked military aircraft does a few close passes. When you're in distress you might want them to do the same low level passes on their search and rescue, dropping aid/rafts/whatever when they locate you, in a trained manner. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dexddd Posted September 21, 2016 #8 Share Posted September 21, 2016 This was posted when it first happened a couple months ago in Bermuda. Then there was some back and forth by the government/reps from Bermuda on whether it was "authorized" or "known" about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lido_Deck Posted September 21, 2016 #9 Share Posted September 21, 2016 There was a big thread about it when it happened. Wasn't a private jet - it was a French military jet. OK, if you can't recognize sarcasm then we can get technical. It was a "Private Jet" that is owned by the French Military, a Dasault Falcon 50 to be precise. http://www.avbuyer.com/aircraft-for-sale/dassault-falcon/50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lido_Deck Posted September 21, 2016 #10 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Not sure why nobody is bothered when a NYPD helicopter circles the ship in NY but are when an allied marked military aircraft does a few close passes. When you're in distress you might want them to do the same low level passes on their search and rescue, dropping aid/rafts/whatever when they locate you, in a trained manner. :) It was not clearly marked (if at all) and would have been of little use in a search and rescue at such high speeds. It was just some unprofessional hotdogs being *******es... http://bernews.com/2016/06/french-aircraft-crew-apologise-for-disturbance/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreestyleNovice Posted September 21, 2016 #11 Share Posted September 21, 2016 OK, if you can't recognize sarcasm then we can get technical. It was a "Private Jet" that is owned by the French Military, a Dasault Falcon 50 to be precise. http://www.avbuyer.com/aircraft-for-sale/dassault-falcon/50 What's "private" when it's owned by the French government? It was build as a military spec jet for maritime tasks on a private jet/small airline jet platform. No leather seats, lush carpeting and walnut decor around. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lido_Deck Posted September 21, 2016 #12 Share Posted September 21, 2016 (edited) What's "private" when it's owned by the French government? It was build as a military spec jet for maritime tasks on a private jet/small airline jet platform. No leather seats, lush carpeting and walnut decor around. ;) A business jet, private jet, or bizjet, or simply B.J., is a jet aircraft designed for transporting small groups of people. Business jets may be adapted for other roles, such as the evacuation of casualties or express parcel deliveries, and some are used by public bodies, government officials or the armed forces. Edited September 21, 2016 by Lido_Deck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreestyleNovice Posted September 21, 2016 #13 Share Posted September 21, 2016 It was not clearly marked (if at all) and would have been of little use in a search and rescue at such high speeds. It was just some unprofessional hotdogs being *******es... http://bernews.com/2016/06/french-aircraft-crew-apologise-for-disturbance/ Never knew you were a pilot, I shall call you captain from now on heh. ;) Here's the livery; I agree the event might have been a surprise but do you really think the plane endangered the ship in any way? Coastguards/border patrol at sea also conduct the same passes on cargo ships, inspecting them/fulfilling environmental tasks. It's not that strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreestyleNovice Posted September 21, 2016 #14 Share Posted September 21, 2016 A business jet, private jet, or bizjet, or simply B.J., is a jet aircraft designed for transporting small groups of people. Business jets may be adapted for other roles, such as the evacuation of casualties or express parcel deliveries, and some are used by public bodies, government officials or the armed forces. The Falcon 50 Surmar is for a maritime surveillance role. I won't expect many empty seats or extra legroom when the thing flies. I concur that there are business jets in use as such, even in full leather configuration for top commanders. This French one just wasn't one of them, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lido_Deck Posted September 21, 2016 #15 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Never knew you were a pilot, I shall call you captain from now on heh. ;) Here's the livery; I agree the event might have been a surprise but do you really think the plane endangered the ship in any way? Coastguards/border patrol at sea also conduct the same passes on cargo ships, inspecting them/fulfilling environmental tasks. It's not that strange. The ship was in Bermuda territorial waters and did not have permission to fly that close to the ship which was obviously not a cargo ship. And yes, it was strange and a matter of the crew being rude guests of the British Government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lido_Deck Posted September 21, 2016 #16 Share Posted September 21, 2016 The Falcon 50 Surmar is for a maritime surveillance role. I won't expect many empty seats or extra legroom when the thing flies. I concur that there are business jets in use as such, even in full leather configuration for top commanders. This French one just wasn't one of them, sorry. Sorry, but the Dassault Falcon 50 is classified as a Bizjet/Private Jet by the aircraft industry no matter what the application is. These particular "Hotdogs" were escorting a French Military Communications ship which requested permission to enter Bermuda territorial waters, but they failed to include the jets in that request. [updated] Government House confirmed that a French naval ship was granted diplomatic clearance for its visit to Bermuda, however said they did not receive an application for the naval jet aircraft, adding that they received a report from the Department of Civil Aviation about the aircraft and are “following this up in consultation with the Ministry of Defence in London.” The Bermuda Department of Civil Aviation said they “did not issue any permission to the operators of these jets to conduct any low flying high speed flights around the island” and “did not grant permissions for them to violate the Low Flying Rule of the Air.” http://bernews.com/2016/06/government-house-following-up-aviation-report/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Line Posted September 21, 2016 #17 Share Posted September 21, 2016 there is no way in heck thats any kind of milita, wait you said french military .sure why not. Yes it is, even the US Military uses commercially made jets some with and with out modification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff Man Posted September 22, 2016 #18 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Haven't had a fly by like that, but when we were on the Dawn when it lost power in 2009, U. S. Coast Guard helicopters would come by occasionally and circle the ship for a bit. Under the circumstances, DW found it a little bit unsettling. :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esm54687 Posted September 22, 2016 #19 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Haven't had a fly by like that, but when we were on the Dawn when it lost power in 2009, U. S. Coast Guard helicopters would come by occasionally and circle the ship for a bit. Under the circumstances, DW found it a little bit unsettling. :eek: Just curious what DW's feeling would be if the Coast Guard did NOT circle the ship for a bit checking on the well being of the Dawn.... that would be more unsettling to think you were alone and no one was looking out for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPT Trips Posted September 22, 2016 #20 Share Posted September 22, 2016 I won't worry unless I see a hook down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Line Posted September 22, 2016 #21 Share Posted September 22, 2016 I won't worry unless I see a hook down. Once on sailing each of NCL and Carnival leaving Manhattan Cruise Terminal an NYPD Helicopter paced us down the East River for a good 15 minutes. Even slowed and moved over the ship from side to side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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