fielddreamer Posted October 27, 2016 #51 Share Posted October 27, 2016 I thought it was RCL's CEO that made that statement. Could be wrong though. X may have said it too http://www.cruisecritic.com/news/news.cfm?ID=6311 Thanks for that article! It turned out to be a lot of hot air. X did say it too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fielddreamer Posted October 27, 2016 #52 Share Posted October 27, 2016 I have learned the same lesson. They claim they are no longer doing last minute sales yet the fare on my upcoming cruise declined about $800 after my final payment. They won't offer anything. At the same time people on the sailing are bragging about the deal they just got booking and making their final payment the same day. We booked about a year ago. I won't be doing any more advanced bookings on Celebrity, only last minute, and when we do our small group we will go back to the two cruise lines the group has sailed on in the past that gave us something after final payment when there were price drops. Sorry now that I convinced the group to try Celebrity. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk You are not alone ! Going back to other cruise lines after this ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teecee60 Posted October 27, 2016 Author #53 Share Posted October 27, 2016 (edited) And to add, you have to be quick on the draw. We booked ours a week ago Friday night...so about 11 days ago, there's already been 4 price increases. Only about $70 each time, but 4 in 11 days. When we got the $1,000 drop on our Hawaii cruise, that price lasted for one day. I'm glad and sad you posted this deal. I would have loved to take advantage of something like this! Hopefully I will love our Silhouette sailing without thinking of what could have been instead - though 22 nights will probably haunt me LOL With instantaneous communication you get instantaneous bookings and instantaneous price changes! ;) An inside cabin on the second leg (12 nights on 21 December) just went up from $749pp to $949pp... and the agency OBC went from $250 to ZERO! :eek: :( :rolleyes: If ya snooze ya looze! :o Edited October 27, 2016 by teecee60 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Big_M Posted October 27, 2016 #54 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Thanks for that article! It turned out to be a lot of hot air. X did say it too! They did what they said. The only issue was that some made a bigger deal out of what they said then what it actually was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottomfeeder Posted October 27, 2016 #55 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Every time I read these posts from people who say they will never sail Celebrity again due to these price cuts that they are not able to opt into, I just shake my head. ALL cruise lines do this, so if they switch to another cruise line it will also happen with that cruise line--maybe not on their first cruise with the line, because it doesn't happen on EVERY cruise, but it will happen. And eventually there won't be any cruise lines to switch to, because they'll have refused to sail on them all due to price cuts for new bookings only. Or maybe, at some point they will realize that what they were told here is true and that all cruise lines do this. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ISABELLA Posted October 27, 2016 #56 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Early Dec. cruises are not very popular that is why prices decrease. I travel November - December for the past 20 years - never seen such price drops- lesson to be learned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ISABELLA Posted October 27, 2016 #57 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Perhaps my senior brain is no longer functioning properly, but wasn't it Celebrity's current CEO that said she was going to stop allowing last minute booking discounts (inside the final payment period)? At the time I think I had posted something to the effect that any cruise line CEO who decided to cruise with empty berths rather then filling those berths with discounted fares, would not be CEO for too long. Hank That is why she is still CEO - prices are dropping left and right and on even popular Holiday sailings - Xmas and New Year.:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare insidecabin Posted October 27, 2016 #58 Share Posted October 27, 2016 The industry is showing signs of cartel behaviour(there are only 3 members) That have all announced new pricing policies in one way or another to try and push prices up and reset expectations and early bookings, with threatof reduced late discounts. Becoming clear that it has backfired as even the holiday sailings are seeing reduced demand and a rush to capture this that have not made alternative arrangement. When I say backfired they will probably have made enough from those that paid to cover the discounts and the community that price watches/wait will benefit and the fallout will be limited as the majority just pay and forget. The message is there will be more deals not less when they try to price fix at higher levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Cruise Junky Posted October 27, 2016 #59 Share Posted October 27, 2016 There are 3 major players but a lot more in the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awhcruiser Posted October 27, 2016 #60 Share Posted October 27, 2016 What cruise line offers deals after final payment? I have learned the same lesson. They claim they are no longer doing last minute sales yet the fare on my upcoming cruise declined about $800 after my final payment. They won't offer anything. At the same time people on the sailing are bragging about the deal they just got booking and making their final payment the same day. We booked about a year ago. I won't be doing any more advanced bookings on Celebrity, only last minute, and when we do our small group we will go back to the two cruise lines the group has sailed on in the past that gave us something after final payment when there were price drops. Sorry now that I convinced the group to try Celebrity. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare insidecabin Posted October 27, 2016 #61 Share Posted October 27, 2016 There are 3 major players but a lot more in the market. Carnival corp, RCCL, NCLH Cover so much you can ignore the rest. MSC are yet to play games they price to sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnOnymously Posted October 27, 2016 #62 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Every time I read these posts from people who say they will never sail Celebrity again due to these price cuts that they are not able to opt into, I just shake my head. ALL cruise lines do this, so if they switch to another cruise line it will also happen with that cruise line--maybe not on their first cruise with the line, because it doesn't happen on EVERY cruise, but it will happen. And eventually there won't be any cruise lines to switch to, because they'll have refused to sail on them all due to price cuts for new bookings only. Or maybe, at some point they will realize that what they were told here is true and that all cruise lines do this. :) Glad to say my cruising days will be over before I can run out of different lines. Sad to see that the US and Canada have also been infected with this odious disease. But perhaps customers realistically turning away will wake Celebrity up to the fact they are cutting off their nose to spite their face. But believe we are locked in from payment of deposit not just after FP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iancal Posted October 27, 2016 #63 Share Posted October 27, 2016 (edited) I do not understand the issue. Airline price structures are exactly the same. We buy when the price is acceptable to us. We know that when we travel by air, cruise, stay in a hotel, do an AI that there will be those who paid more than us and those who paid less. Edited October 27, 2016 by iancal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandgeezer Posted October 27, 2016 #64 Share Posted October 27, 2016 What cruise line offers deals after final payment? About all of them if they have a lot of empty cabins. Last Monday I booked a B2B on the Silhouette, for the first two cruises in December. I paid about $1500 p.p., including taxes and fees but no perks. I booked Aqua guarantees and was assigned A1s the next day. I contacted my online travel agent and she took the time and found me a cabin where we wouldn't have to change rooms. The $400 obc, total for both cruises paid for the gratuities. This was well after final payment. Air was about $100 p.p. more than we paid in April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awhcruiser Posted October 27, 2016 #65 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Maybe it was my TA? The one I used told me no upgrades and/or price reduction after final payment. Im using a different TA this time..We will see how it goes.... About all of them if they have a lot of empty cabins. Last Monday I booked a B2B on the Silhouette, for the first two cruises in December. I paid about $1500 p.p., including taxes and fees but no perks. I booked Aqua guarantees and was assigned A1s the next day. I contacted my online travel agent and she took the time and found me a cabin where we wouldn't have to change rooms. The $400 obc, total for both cruises paid for the gratuities. This was well after final payment. Air was about $100 p.p. more than we paid in April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandgeezer Posted October 28, 2016 #66 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Maybe it was my TA? The one I used told me no upgrades and/or price reduction after final payment. Im using a different TA this time..We will see how it goes.... Your chance of getting a reduced price or obc, after final payment, are slim and none. What you could get if there is a higher level category cabin, selling for less than you paid, you should be able to move up to that. One thing to keep in mind though, if you currently have any perks, they might not move with you if they aren't part of the new pricing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ISABELLA Posted October 28, 2016 #67 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Your chance of getting a reduced price or obc, after final payment, are slim and none. What you could get if there is a higher level category cabin, selling for less than you paid, you should be able to move up to that. One thing to keep in mind though, if you currently have any perks, they might not move with you if they aren't part of the new pricing. That is exactly right. Last year we got an upgrade from 2D to AQ2 after FP , giving up OBC, being AQ at the price we paid for 2D over 12 months on advance. This year, when our price dropped about 30% after FP- no upgrade was available and nothing else was offered. Live and learn..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblaze Posted October 28, 2016 #68 Share Posted October 28, 2016 While I completely understand why Celebrity would not want to return any money after final payment, it makes no sense to me why they would not offer an upgrade to a customer who booked a year out and paid more for an Ocean View then they are charging for a balcony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandgeezer Posted October 28, 2016 #69 Share Posted October 28, 2016 While I completely understand why Celebrity would not want to return any money after final payment, it makes no sense to me why they would not offer an upgrade to a customer who booked a year out and paid more for an Ocean View then they are charging for a balcony. If available, they normally do, but you have to ask, they won't contact you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richsea Posted October 28, 2016 #70 Share Posted October 28, 2016 That is exactly right. Last year we got an upgrade from 2D to AQ2 after FP , giving up OBC, being AQ at the price we paid for 2D over 12 months on advance. This year, when our price dropped about 30% after FP- no upgrade was available and nothing else was offered. Live and learn..... So true. Sometimes you win & sometimes you lose. The trick is to book a room at a price you are comfortable with, & keep an eye peeled for an upgrade at a favorable price. Regardless, you're still on a cruise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted October 31, 2016 #71 Share Posted October 31, 2016 I know, these are great prices. I guess when you don't get all those "free" perks, the price reflects the true cost of the cruise. They will fill the ships with these prices. Looking at one cruise on a TA's web site for one type cabin: Book with one perk (OBC or beverage package or WiFi or tips): $1724 Book with two perks: $1859 Book with all four perks: $2129 So, each perk is worth $135 to Celebrity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted October 31, 2016 #72 Share Posted October 31, 2016 What agency can afford to give $250 OBC for $1500 cabin? Math doesn't make sense. I believe the OBC actually comes from Celebrity and is part of the pricing package. Travel Agents like to use wording that implies the OBC comes from the TA or is special for that TA when it really comes from the cruise line. Examples on invoice or web site: "TAname Discount $xxxx." (Actually same pricing direct from Celebrity or any other TA) "Celebrity offers our customers......" (actually offered to ciustomers of any TA or even directly booked with Celebrity) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ISABELLA Posted October 31, 2016 #73 Share Posted October 31, 2016 I believe the OBC actually comes from Celebrity and is part of the pricing package. Travel Agents like to use wording that implies the OBC comes from the TA or is special for that TA when it really comes from the cruise line. Examples on invoice or web site: "TAname Discount $xxxx." (Actually same pricing direct from Celebrity or any other TA) "Celebrity offers our customers......" (actually offered to ciustomers of any TA or even directly booked with Celebrity) Not exactly. I have booked Eqiunox with 4 perks for next October (instead of TA we had booked last December and it was cancelled in July). In addition to 4 perks, $200 from Celebrity for cancelling our TA, we got an OBC from the agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Big_M Posted October 31, 2016 #74 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Looking at one cruise on a TA's web site for one type cabin: Book with one perk (OBC or beverage package or WiFi or tips): $1724 Book with two perks: $1859 Book with all four perks: $2129 So, each perk is worth $135 to Celebrity Pricing for perks is done per day. As I recall from the original announcement, it was US$20/day. I'm therefore guessing the above would be a 7 day cruise; not sure why there's a $5 difference, except if the currency has changed, or the per day value calculation has changed (or my memory is faulty!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted October 31, 2016 #75 Share Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) Pricing for perks is done per day. As I recall from the original announcement, it was US$20/day. I'm therefore guessing the above would be a 7 day cruise; not sure why there's a $5 difference, except if the currency has changed, or the per day value calculation has changed (or my memory is faulty!). It is for a 12 day cruise which works out to $11.25/day. Edited October 31, 2016 by caribill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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