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Optotronics

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Pretty unusual for this type of incident to happen. If it is any consolation the Regal is a, relatively speaking, brand new ship. We loved it and you probably will too. Enjoy your cruise.

 

Thanks, I'm not too worried about the regal and am sure everything will be great. I am just hoping a through investigation is done by an independent agency to find out the string of events which lead to this and action taken much like when the FAA investigates an aircraft incident.

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maizer

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Watertight doors are manually dogged...once they are closed...they don't fail...I don't know if the compartment is watertight.

 

I'd be more concerned about pumping out ingested seawater...but I have no clue what the configuration is like for that on that ship.

 

The next watertight door is a manual dogged door much like what mrs and mrs posted a picture of. Unless someone goes and opens this, it won't fail.

 

Thanks. Well I guess it goes without saying hope those function as designed for the next few days!

 

We're on track to get back by 3pm on Monday. After the first couple of initial announcements, the cruise director in his cheerful voice is making all the latest news and announcements.

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chengkp75

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I'm new here and in fact we're going on our first cruise on the regal next month. I've been following this thread all day and it concerns us that something like this which you think should have been found back in Hawaii and not 500miles out to sea. Is this something that the NTSB or other government overseer of safety will be investigating to find out if it were human error or design flaw and have them take steps to prevent this from happening again?

If the same type of interlocks and sensors are used in other locations in the ship a future failure of the same type could perhaps have a much worse outcome.

 

While the USCG will be the lead agency on this (and they can call on NTSB for expertise, but generally only do this for fatalities), you must understand the international nature of the industry. The USCG can inspect and investigate this incident to determine if something does not meet the standards of SOLAS (the international Safety of Life at Sea convention). But, since this ship is flagged in Bermuda, they are limited in what they can require. If the system, as designed, meets SOLAS, then the USCG can only "recommend" to the Bermudan Maritime Authority that changes be made, if the USCG feels that changes should be made.

 

The USCG in this instance is acting as a "port state" (a signatory to SOLAS where the ship is in port), and can inspect to see that repairs meet SOLAS. Since the incident happened in international waters, it is the flag state (Bermuda) who has responsibility for investigating the cause of the incident, but since the US was the closest land, and the majority of passengers is likely US citizens, the USCG can request "interested party" status with Bermuda to be included as observers of the Bermudan investigation.

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sorry, just to clarify my earlier post - regarding compensation for the cruise = "all guests will receive a 50% refund of the cruise fare paid refunded to the original form of payment Each guest will also receive a Future Cruise Credit equal to 50% of the cruise fare paid on this voyage The credit is applicable to any future Princess cruise booked by December 31, 2017".

Also each cabin can obtain a voucher for 30 minutes free internet time and there are a couple of 'free' ship to shore phones being made available.

We should be receiving flight info tomorrow (Sunday) afternoon.

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chengkp75

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Anchor released by passenger story here:

 

http://gcaptain.com/cruise-ship-passenger-sentenced/

 

Ah, stern anchor, much different. Also, as much as I like gcaptain, I don't believe dropping a stern anchor would bring the ship "to a sudden halt". First off, the water would need to be shallow enough that the anchor would hit bottom and then have enough scope to pull horizontally on the anchor to get it to bite. Then the sheer power of moving the ship at 18 knots would have taken the chain all the way out, where the "weak link" at the bitter end of the chain would have failed as designed and the anchor and chain would have been lost. Anyway, this diverts from the Grand's problem.

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sorry, just to clarify my earlier post - regarding compensation for the cruise = "all guests will receive a 50% refund of the cruise fare paid refunded to the original form of payment Each guest will also receive a Future Cruise Credit equal to 50% of the cruise fare paid on this voyage The credit is applicable to any future Princess cruise booked by December 31, 2017".

Also each cabin can obtain a voucher for 30 minutes free internet time and there are a couple of 'free' ship to shore phones being made available.

We should be receiving flight info tomorrow (Sunday) afternoon.

 

Thanks for keeping us updated. Always interesting to hear what, and how, Princess does to take care of these unusual incidences.

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p_mori7

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The sudden halt was after he drunkenly removed a life ring to keep as a souvenir. A man overboard alarm sounded and he threw the life ring overboard to get it out of his hands.

 

Now back to your regularly scheduled programming...

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mrs and mrs

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Yup, back up now. I wonder if they have to slow down periodically to allow for pumping out of seawater.

 

Absolutely not out of the question, I'm trying to figure out the time frame, I cant figure if its night/day out there. Puter wont let me tap in properly to tracking site as its not recognising my password.

Otherwise I could give sea-state, wind, as is and predicted.

A bit lost with basic info.

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Astro Flyer

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Absolutely not out of the question, I'm trying to figure out the time frame, I cant figure if its night/day out there. Puter wont let me tap in properly to tracking site as its not recognising my password.

 

Otherwise I could give sea-state, wind, as is and predicted.

 

A bit lost with basic info.

 

I think you're in Australia & at this time of the year you're 21 hours ahead of Hawaii.

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mrs and mrs

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I think you're in Australia & at this time of the year you're 21 hours ahead of Hawaii.

 

Cheers, yep correct, sitting up in the top end.:)Northern territory

Watching lightning crack all over the place, its a steamy 38 degs and as humid as all get-out,with some frequent downpours.But all is good.

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I don't want to worry anyone onboard, but this is a serious breach of watertight integrity, which is why the ship has turned around for the closest port. It will not sail until this is fixed. The ship's pumps can keep up with any water inflow (and they are adjusting speed to minimize this), but even if the entire watertight compartment flooded (there are doors separating it from other compartments along the ship), the ship would not sink.

 

Well we just got a letter stating that "... a tender platform on the starboard side of the ship opened, for reasons yet unknown. The platform sustained damage such that it could not be closed. Although the [tender] platform is not part of the watertight integrity of vessel as a result of it opening the hull sustained minor localized damage which has been secured."

 

I'm guessing they're trying to keep us calm and assured, which is great. As for 'not part of the watertight integrity'... uhhhh

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mrs and mrs

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UPDATE/

Grand 1.1 Knots heading 260 deg

 

Tug/sec serv craft doing doughnuts, approx. 170 miles off her starboard bow.

 

Looks like tug is waiting for her to catch-up so as to escort her in.

 

Back up to 10.6 knots @ 257 deg

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