Smoking On Your Balcony But Our Vacation!!

[sammee]

Please don't crucify me but...

 

I do think that if there is a non-smoking policy on balconies, that it should be enforced.

 

But...

 

I am a smoker that does not smoke on our balconies, and do understand that cigarette smoke is not pleasant to most non-smokers. But just because there is the smell of smoke coming from somewhere, I have to wonder just how much of that smell actually carries the carcinogenics that hurt people. If you smell cigarette smoke on me doesn't mean carcinogens will jump off me. :p

 

I feel bad that the OP's husband has such a critical health problem that is set off by just the smell of smoke.

 

Smoking is not illegal, and we pay good money, therefore feel we should have an area to smoke in decent out of the elements designated areas.

 

I used to think like this too, but when you have lung problems, that smell can kick your butt in. For me, the cigarette doesn't trigger it, but perfume/cologne does. The same can be asked about both when it comes to lung problems.

[Ski-Lady]

I don't usually quote entire long posts, but I wanted to this time.

 

Ski-Lady, this is exceptionally well-written.

 

I strongly suggest that you send the entire thing to

 

mbayley@rccl.com

 

Thank you for your kind words Merion _Mom. There are some posters on the RCCL board that I really pay attention to because of their concise, accurate, knowable information, and you are one of them.

 

I will be sure to email my post to Mr Bayley per your suggestion.

 

As I said we have cruised a fair amount and have sailed almost exclusively on Royal. We have another cruise booked in March. After that I'm not sure we can risk another episode like this. We may have to change to non-smoking line. That would be to bad because I believe Royal has provided a good value for the dollar and we have finally reach a loyalty level to be worth while.

[Arizona Cruz Chic]

First, glad Jim is better and had good care from ships medical....and glad you had insurance!

 

Second, shame on RC for not putting these people off the ship. Multiple complaints form several others? Nothing done except a fine....unacceptable.

 

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[postmeome]

Another anti smoking thread, well done. Don't believe a word,people on here are so gullible.

[sparks1093]

Another anti smoking thread, well done. Don't believe a word,people on here are so gullible.

 

No, it's an anti-smoking in a non-smoking area thread. BIG difference.

[MISTER 67]

Why wasn't RCCL more forceful with the smokers?

I know they can't shoot them or throw them in the brig but maybe they should have been escorted off the ship at one of the ports, this was a life threatening situation plus a dangerous situation to the ship itself as fires have started on balconies.

Shame on RCCL for not enforcing the smoking rules

[Bookster99]

Wow. What a horrible experience! I am so glad he is doing better.

 

We had smokers below us when we cruised on the Navigator. We did not suffer any serious effects, and didn't complain. We still used the balcony, and just put up with it when it happened. I imagine that happens a lot.

 

On an unrelated but related note, we avoid the casino because of the smoke. I wonder how much more gambling would take place on the ship if it were a smoke-free environment?

[Roce48]

There is no "if"

 

Smoking is banned in all cabins and on all cabin balconies on all Royal Caribbean ships.

 

That is the relevant point.

 

I was not being curt, so why must you be. Even if you don't like my statement, you should still show some class. Thank you.:)

[marci22]

I was not being curt, so why must you be. Even if you don't like my statement, you should still show some class. Thank you.:)

 

You bolded and underlined the word 'if'. It seemed like you did not know the rules, and were adding complication to the thread. She was being direct and to the point, not curt.

[ONECRUISER]

Please don't crucify me but...

 

I do think that if there is a non-smoking policy on balconies, that it should be enforced.

 

But...

 

I am a smoker that does not smoke on our balconies, and do understand that cigarette smoke is not pleasant to most non-smokers. But just because there is the smell of smoke coming from somewhere, I have to wonder just how much of that smell actually carries the carcinogenics that hurt people. If you smell cigarette smoke on me doesn't mean carcinogens will jump off me. :p

 

I feel bad that the OP's husband has such a critical health problem that is set off by just the smell of smoke.

 

Smoking is not illegal, and we pay good money, therefore feel we should have an area to smoke in decent out of the elements designated areas.

 

If you smell smoke from cigarettes it contains Carcinogens, that's what second hand smoke is. My daughter has bad Asthma and a history or that second hand smoke causing an attack. I have no problems with having smoking areas but the one time I had a connecting cabin people in the other cabin would smoke, opened their balcony door and the smoke blew under connecting door into my room. I was fortunate that when I complained to customer service it ended. Thank you Roce48 for not smoking on your balcony...

[ducklite]

No, it's an anti-smoking in a non-smoking area thread. BIG difference.

 

 

 

Exactly. If people want to smoke in a designated area (which the ship should make sure it is an area others don't need to pass through or smell smoke drifting from) and dispose of butts in a safe manner, it's not my problem. But when it does affect me, particularly when they are breaking written policy, it becomes my business.

 

The Wind Surf had a smoking area in the top deck at the rear of the ship. No one needed to go up there for any reason except to smoke. The smoke drifted off into the breeze behind the ship. They supplied an adequate place to dispose of butts. It was a win-win. For the two smokers among the 212 passengers, it worked.

 

If smokers would follow the rules and be considerate, we could all generally get on. Of course some heavy smokers leave a PigPen like trail of stench all around them. I was in CVS an hour ago and could smell the stench of stale smoke over six feet from the guy at the counter. It was disgusting. But that type of odor on a smoker is usually the exception to the rule.

 

 

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[Ski-Lady]

Another anti smoking thread, well done. Don't believe a word,people on here are so gullible.

 

As others stated, this is not an anti-smoking thread. I respect the rights of others to smoke. This is about the unintended consequences of people smoking in a non-smoking area.

 

This is not my first post. I am a long time member of CC with a fair numbers of posts. I don't post frivolously.

 

This post was a factual report of what happened to us. And to make people think about the effect of their actions.

[akcruz]

First, glad Jim is better and had good care from ships medical....and glad you had insurance!

 

Second, shame on RC for not putting these people off the ship. Multiple complaints form several others? Nothing done except a fine....unacceptable.

 

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And I am betting they whined and made a scene until the fine was taken off. Agree totally unacceptable, but what I have found is royal is very lax in enforcing most of their rules. Very unfortunate.

 

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[Ski-Lady]

I was not being curt, so why must you be. Even if you don't like my statement, you should still show some class. Thank you.:)

 

Merion_Mom is right, smoking is banned on all Royal cabins and balconies. If smoking was allowed, trust me, I would not have spent so much time complaining.

 

When we started cruising in 2007 smoking was allowed on the balconies and I respected people's right to smoke there.

Edited December 10, 2016 by Ski-Lady

[scopewest]

So sorry to hear what happened on your cruise. I must say I like the idea of the ice bucket :)

[davekathy]

.... I do think that if there is a non-smoking policy on balconies, that it should be enforced...Smoking is not illegal, and we pay good money, therefore feel we should have an area to smoke in decent out of the elements designated areas...

 

There is an area out of the elements on RCI ships you are allowed to smoke. The casino.Here's what is posted on RCI website under FAQ. Agree that the no smoking policy needs to be enforced and just about everyone that has posted on this thread will agree with you.

 

...Smoking is not permitted inside any stateroom and any stateroom balcony. This applies to all stateroom categories onboard. If a guest is in violation of this stateroom policy, a cleaning fee of $250 USD will be applied to their SeaPass® account and may be subject to further action pursuant to the "Consequences Section" of the Guest Conduct Policy...

Edited December 10, 2016 by davekathy

[troykahack]

.... I do think that if there is a non-smoking policy on balconies, that it should be enforced....

 

There is an area out of the elements on RCI ships you are allowed to smoke. The casino.Here's what is posted on RCI website under FAQ. Agree that the no smoking policy needs to be enforced and just about everyone that has posted on this thread will agree with you.

 

 

I agree with Merion Mom, there is no IF

 

Smoking should be banned at the Casino Bar. IF your not playing, NO SMOKING. Nobody needs to provide any smokers with any area out of the elements. The pool deck area for smokers is plenty.

Edited December 10, 2016 by troykahack

[davekathy]

 

I agree with Merion Mom, there is no IF

 

Smoking should be banned at the Casino Bar. IF your not playing, NO SMOKING. Nobody needs to provide any smokers with any area out of the elements. The pool deck area for smokers is plenty.

 

As a nonsmoker I agree and we don't gamble. But currently RCI allows Cruisers to smoke in the Casino whether they are gambling or not. So deal with it. You have a choice. I'm sure some smokers complain about not being able to smoke in the lounges/bars but they deal with it.

Edited December 10, 2016 by davekathy

[troykahack]

 

As a nonsmoker I agree and we don't gamble. But currently RCI allows it so deal with it. You have a choice. I'm sure some smokers complain about not being able to smoke in the lounges/bars but they deal with it.

 

We currently deal with it by letting everyone know. I talked to the Casino Host and Club Royale when they called me this week. Each time I talk to them I complain. First thing is to eliminate smoking at the bar, they are not playing.

 

After that... who knows... tackle something one at a time....

[davekathy]

 

We currently deal with it by letting everyone know. I talked to the Casino Host and Club Royale when they called me this week. Each time I talk to them I complain. First thing is to eliminate smoking at the bar, they are not playing.

 

After that... who knows... tackle something one at a time....

 

Perfect...sometimes the squeaky wheel gets the grease. I hope you're successful with your crusade. Hopefully RCI will follow Celebrity's lead and ban all inside smoking.

[ducklite]

 

 

 

We currently deal with it by letting everyone know. I talked to the Casino Host and Club Royale when they called me this week. Each time I talk to them I complain. First thing is to eliminate smoking at the bar, they are not playing.

 

 

 

After that... who knows... tackle something one at a time....

 

 

 

Best way to deal with it is by taking your money to another cruise line. There are 10 times the number of non smokers to smokers. Money talks, we all know what walks.

 

 

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[davekathy]

 

 

 

Best way to deal with it is by taking your money to another cruise line. There are 10 times the number of non smokers to smokers. Money talks, we all know what walks.

 

 

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Agree but I don't think all nonsmokers will unite and do that. We won't. We just try to avoid any smoking area and even then you can't always get away from the smell. So we deal with it. Celebrity has been very successful at not allowing any indoor smoking and that's one of many reasons we enjoy Cruising with Celebrity.

Edited December 10, 2016 by davekathy

[troykahack]

 

Agree but I don't think all nonsmokers will unite and do that. We won't. We just try to avoid any smoking area and even then you can't always get away from the smell. So we deal with it. Celebrity has been very successful at not allowing any indoor smoking and that's one of many reasons we enjoy Cruising with Celebrity.

 

It is hard to avoid the Casino when sometimes one must walk through it to get somewhere else. People use it as an indoor smoking area and then run and hop on the elevator with a cloud of stench cigarette smoke on them and polute the entire elevator.

[forkcreek]

If anything this post points out that RCCL has shipboard rules that they seldom enforce.

[troykahack]

 

 

 

Best way to deal with it is by taking your money to another cruise line. There are 10 times the number of non smokers to smokers. Money talks, we all know what walks.

 

 

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Why? This is like giving up.