orchestrapal Posted January 19, 2017 #26 Share Posted January 19, 2017 If children weren't allowed it would be call heaven ent from my iPhone using Tapatalk +1 so true. Hard to call anything First Class if it includes screaming children... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawnino Posted January 19, 2017 #27 Share Posted January 19, 2017 If children weren't allowed it would be call heaven Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Amen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AP1016 Posted January 20, 2017 #28 Share Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) This is ridiculous Edited February 6, 2017 by CobyTA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xriva Posted January 20, 2017 #29 Share Posted January 20, 2017 The Haven is beyond First Class. The last time I flew in First Class, steerage passengers kept looking at me through the little curtain, because the Flight Attendant neglected to pull it closed! (I did not tip her, I tell you.) One bold Economista actually tried to use our facilities! I've asked the airline to consider card key readers to keep the riff-raff out. Sent from my iPad using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don't-use-real-name Posted January 20, 2017 #30 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Is this economy class or something else?? Just you wait till they bring out the oars chains bench seating and the cadence chief with a big ole nasty whip. Row row row your boat ! LOL ! AND wasn't there a 4th class section on the Titanic - tuxedos and bow ties required to fuel the coal fired boilers or was that some blisterly bad "B" movie ? At least on today's cruise ships you don't have to share a toilet and bath with a compartment of other cruisers like my Military troop ship movements going to and from Europe in the early 60's ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyinpa Posted January 20, 2017 #31 Share Posted January 20, 2017 The Haven is beyond First Class. The last time I flew in First Class, steerage passengers kept looking at me through the little curtain, because the Flight Attendant neglected to pull it closed! (I did not tip her, I tell you.) One bold Economista actually tried to use our facilities! I've asked the airline to consider card key readers to keep the riff-raff out. Sent from my iPad using Forums mobile app i always wondered what would happen if steerage tried to get a drink at the haven bar or just sneak in behind someone to use the facilities. my guess is as long as you kept quiet no one would probably bother you because when i was in haven spa i did have to come from the 'outside' with my bathing suit and towel but walking down past the concierge is about the only 'challenge' anyone would get . wonder if they ever do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakman58 Posted January 20, 2017 #32 Share Posted January 20, 2017 i always wondered what would happen if steerage tried to get a drink at the haven bar or just sneak in behind someone to use the facilities. my guess is as long as you kept quiet no one would probably bother you because when i was in haven spa i did have to come from the 'outside' with my bathing suit and towel but walking down past the concierge is about the only 'challenge' anyone would get . wonder if they ever do it? Woe is he who tries to sneak into the Haven area. There is undercover security in the Haven that most passengers don’t know about. I snapped a picture of one of the security personnel as he chased after a baggage-class passenger who had attempted to get into the Haven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philip_eunice1 Posted January 20, 2017 #33 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Woe is he who tries to sneak into the Haven area. There is undercover security in the Haven that most passengers don’t know about. I snapped a picture of one of the security personnel as he chased after a baggage-class passenger who had attempted to get into the Haven. Love it to funny Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jints07 Posted January 20, 2017 #34 Share Posted January 20, 2017 If children weren't allowed it would be call heaven Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Guess it stinks that the money for their fair is worth the same as far as the cruise line is concerned. Or that some of the Haven suites are actually labeled "Family". I have heard there are other lines where such inconveniences are less likely, maybe heaven is to be found there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philip_eunice1 Posted January 20, 2017 #35 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Guess it stinks that the money for their fair is worth the same as far as the cruise line is concerned. Or that some of the Haven suites are actually labeled "Family". I have heard there are other lines where such inconveniences are less likely, maybe heaven is to be found there. Don't have a problem with well behaved children We have had our own in the haven many times I was being a little sarcastic guess it didn't translate well Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jints07 Posted January 20, 2017 #36 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Don't have a problem with well behaved children We have had our own in the haven many times I was being a little sarcastic guess it didn't translate well Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I missed the sarcasm, so apologies in that case. FWIW, in all of the vacations I have been on over the years, misbehaving adults have far outnumbered misbehaving children. Anyhow, sorry for the derail.... now back to class warfare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjlaac Posted January 20, 2017 #37 Share Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) Do the footnotes mention any $7.95 fee? ....and 18% gratuity, for your convenience of course? Edited January 20, 2017 by bjlaac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philip_eunice1 Posted January 20, 2017 #38 Share Posted January 20, 2017 U are so right miss behaving adults usually belong to misbehaving children Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asubaru Posted January 20, 2017 #39 Share Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) IME, the staff seems to be good at knowing their customers after the first day. I was asked for my card on the first morning and can only assume because I looked lost (I was!) I can only think of two occasions where people have been asked to leave that weren't Haven guests, so I don't think many people risk the embarrassment of being outed. Your key card is designated on the outside as a Haven card so you couldn't get a drink. My card has always been needed (and usually swiped) for Haven meals and drinks even when they "know" you. i always wondered what would happen if steerage tried to get a drink at the haven bar or just sneak in behind someone to use the facilities. my guess is as long as you kept quiet no one would probably bother you because when i was in haven spa i did have to come from the 'outside' with my bathing suit and towel but walking down past the concierge is about the only 'challenge' anyone would get . wonder if they ever do it? Edited January 20, 2017 by asubaru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjbdtz Posted January 21, 2017 #40 Share Posted January 21, 2017 (edited) Woe is he who tries to sneak into the Haven area. There is undercover security in the Haven that most passengers don’t know about. I snapped a picture of one of the security personnel as he chased after a baggage-class passenger who had attempted to get into the Haven. Well, he only had a bit role, but Victor is a really nice genuine guy. Wish I hadn't closed my eyes on this. Wish I was this weight again. *Le Sigh* Stephen . Edited January 21, 2017 by sjbdtz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare All-ready2cruise Posted January 21, 2017 #41 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Well, he only had a bit role, but Victor is a really nice genuine guy. Wish I hadn't closed my eyes on this. Wish I was this weight again. *Le Sigh* Stephen . Hey, you lived it and probably loved it... don't complain... :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser&flyer Posted January 21, 2017 #42 Share Posted January 21, 2017 I don't know why they call it a haven if children are allowed. Kids: When they are yours, the little darlings :rolleyes: When they are somebody else's: the little brats :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luddite Posted January 21, 2017 #43 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Do you think Haven is called Haven and not 1st class so they don't have to call the rest of us 2nd class?:confused: No. It is actually a pretty funny story about the name. It was originally gonna be called The Heavin'. Spellchecked reared it's snotty head and changed it in the promotional literature and they decided it was cost-effective to eschew printing new brochures. I know! Weird! But that's the inside info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare All-ready2cruise Posted January 21, 2017 #44 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Kids:When they are yours, the little darlings :rolleyes: When they are somebody else's: the little brats :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: In either case, without "little brats" at some point.... y'all wouldn't be here... :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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