pdz Posted March 13, 2017 #1 Share Posted March 13, 2017 How does the 18 year old Sirena compare to the newer oceania ships as far as restaurants and entertainment (shows)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted March 13, 2017 #2 Share Posted March 13, 2017 She is 1/2 the size of the O class ships & not as modern looking more like an old country home with the dark panelling She has 2 specialty restaurants compared to 4 on the O class ships a few photos of the ship at http://www.cruisecritic.com/photos/ships/sirena-1030/ compare to Riviera http://www.cruisecritic.com/photos/ships/riviera-607/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanandJim Posted March 13, 2017 #3 Share Posted March 13, 2017 How does the 18 year old Sirena compare to the newer oceania ships as far as restaurants and entertainment (shows)? The newer Oceania ships are literally (66000 versus 33000 tons) twice the size of Sirena and her sisters. The differences have more to do with their disparate size than their ages. Sirena has two specialty restaurants rather than the four which are found on the O class ships. There is a single nightly show at 9:30pm in the Main Lounge of all Oceania ships; the shows on the smaller ships have similar running times, but feature smaller casts. Production values are identical, otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulchili Posted March 13, 2017 #4 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Just a slight addition. Sirena is the one of the R ships that actually has 3 specialty restaurants (sort of). She has the Red Ginger and Tuscan Steak. The latter is a combination (as in "the best of") from Polo and Toscana that are on the other R ships. She also offers Jacques' bistro items at lunch in the MDR that the other R ships do not. She was totally refurbished recently when she came over from Princess and looks great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Noxequifans Posted March 13, 2017 #5 Share Posted March 13, 2017 We are booked on her next year and are excited about the Tuscan Steak menu .... great idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammiedawg Posted March 13, 2017 #6 Share Posted March 13, 2017 We loved Sirena, the refit refurbishing was beautifully done and I had little to nothing to complain about while on board. We really liked Tuscan steak and the Jacques casual bistro lunch daily in the GDR. We rarely splurge on calories at lunch but made an exception on this ship for the Jacques option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mura Posted March 13, 2017 #7 Share Posted March 13, 2017 There are those who like the Tuscan Steak option and those who don't. We are among the latter mainly because too few of our favorites remain on the menu. Since we weren't particularly good fans of Red Ginger, we'd have preferred the restaurants to stay as they were. But no one asked us ... and we'd probably have been in the minority even if they had. Mura Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbie21 Posted March 13, 2017 #8 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Agree with Mura. We are currently on Sirena and have dined 3 times in Tuscan so far. The menu options are quite limited with nothing from Toscana that we like and number of Polo favorites gone. Quality is good but the ruduced number of sides are smaller. Service is excellent, chairs are comfortable and the decor is fine. We just miss the Polo menu. Sent from my SM-G900V using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Girl Posted March 14, 2017 #9 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Agree with Mura. We are currently on Sirena and have dined 3 times in Tuscan so far. The menu options are quite limited with nothing from Toscana that we like and number of Polo favorites gone. Quality is good but the ruduced number of sides are smaller. Service is excellent, chairs are comfortable and the decor is fine. We just miss the Polo menu. Sent from my SM-G900V using Forums mobile app What is missing? The menu is limited but still looks very adequate. Have you been to Red Ginger? The menu looks very good with some unique dishes. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulchili Posted March 14, 2017 #10 Share Posted March 14, 2017 What is missing? The menu is limited but still looks very adequate.Thanks My favorite dish from Toscana is missing - their version of a Wiener Schnitzel (Breaded veal cutlet)) is no longer on the menu of Tuscan Steak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mura Posted March 14, 2017 #11 Share Posted March 14, 2017 St Paul Girl, The original Toscana and Polo menus were both very extensive -- at least two pages each, not including dessert. The new combined menu is one page total as I recall. Forgive me if my memory from October is a bit faulty. But MUCH was missing. That doesn't mean that people who didn't encounter the original restaurants won't enjoy the current rendition. But many of us who DID encounter the original menus are disappointed with this result. But I freely admit to being a person who often doesn't like change... at least with menus! Mura Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitob Posted March 14, 2017 #12 Share Posted March 14, 2017 We prefer the new Tuscan steak to polo Toscana. But we don't like red ginger so we are left with one specialty. But in a suite we can order in so not a big deal Btw. If u ask in advance they will make u something from the old menu It had been done on this cruise Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatbush Flyer Posted March 14, 2017 #13 Share Posted March 14, 2017 My favorite dish from Toscana is missing - their version of a Wiener Schnitzel (Breaded veal cutlet)) is no longer on the menu of Tuscan Steak. I think you mean a version of "cotoletta di vitello impanata" Done right, it is significantly different from schnitzel. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatbush Flyer Posted March 14, 2017 #14 Share Posted March 14, 2017 How does the 18 year old Sirena compare to the newer oceania ships as far as restaurants and entertainment (shows)? $30 million redo bought more than a facelift. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulchili Posted March 14, 2017 #15 Share Posted March 14, 2017 (edited) I think you mean a version of "cotoletta di vitello impanata" Done right, it is significantly different from schnitzel. Sent from my iPhone using Forums If they are not twins then they are half brothers :D http://kolarsky.com/family/cookbook/wiener_schnitzel.htm https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotoletta Other than the bone-in, I see very little difference. Please explain how is it significantly different from the schnitzel. FWIW - this is copied from Oceania (I am referring to the second, thinly pounded version): Costate di Vitello a Modo Tuo Bone-In Milk-Fed Veal Chop prepared in your choice of style: Grilled to perfection and topped with Sautéed Piedmonte Wild Porcini Mushroom Sauce Pounded thin, lightly breaded and sautéed in Lemon-Infused Extra Virgin Olive Oil Vinaigrette,crowned with Trio of Diced Roma Tomatoes, Radicchio and Arugula They do not call it Cotoletta di Vitello Impanata but Costate di Vitello. I do not speak Italian but it's close enough for me. Also, I get it without the salad on top of it - making it even more like a schnitzel :D Edited March 14, 2017 by Paulchili Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatbush Flyer Posted March 14, 2017 #16 Share Posted March 14, 2017 (edited) If they are not twins then they are half brothers :Dhttp://kolarsky.com/family/cookbook/wiener_schnitzel.htm https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotoletta Other than the bone-in, I see very little difference. Please explain how is it significantly different from the schnitzel. FWIW - this is copied from Oceania (I am referring to the second, thinly pounded version): Costate di Vitello a Modo Tuo Bone-In Milk-Fed Veal Chop prepared in your choice of style: Grilled to perfection and topped with Sautéed Piedmonte Wild Porcini Mushroom Sauce Pounded thin, lightly breaded and sautéed in Lemon-Infused Extra Virgin Olive Oil Vinaigrette,crowned with Trio of Diced Roma Tomatoes, Radicchio and Arugula They do not call it Cotoletta di Vitello Impanata but Costate di Vitello. I do not speak Italian but it's close enough for me. Also, I get it without the salad on top of it - making it even more like a schnitzel :D Firstly, costate are ribs or a bone-in rib steak. Cotolette are boneless filets (often scalloped) cut from a leg of veal (think veal parmigiana or piccata). At first glance, schnitzel may look like cotolette. But that's where the similarity ends. Schnitzel is fried in vegetable oil and coated in plain breadcrumbs. For either Costate or Cotoletta di Vitello (made at home), we would differ from O's infused olive oil frying by using a 50/50 mix of clarified butter and olive oil. Vegetable oil and olive oil are vastly different in taste. Even olive oils alone are vastly different (the olive of l cart in Toscana). Another difference of the Italian dishes from schnitzel is that the seasoning of the breadcrumbs would be distinctly Italian including oregano, flat leaf parsley, red pepper (to taste) and a few other herbs/spices depending on the region of origin. BTW, traditional German schnitzel (not the wiener/veal variety) is pork. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Edited March 14, 2017 by Flatbush Flyer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
su-arizona Posted March 15, 2017 #17 Share Posted March 15, 2017 We were not fans of Red Ginger on the O-class ships, but it became our favorite on Sirena. The room itself is beautiful on Sirena, but dark and cavernous (IMHO) on the O ships. The windows on Sirena help and the decor is gorgeous. Service was wonderful on all our Sirena visits and food was excellent. Looked forward to Tuscan Steak, but we also did not enjoy the new limited menu. Not really the "best of both" in our opinion. We were also very disappointed in the Terrace Cafe. Service and food were both lacking. But we last cruised on Sirena in Sep-2016 so hopefully this has been corrected by now, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitob Posted March 15, 2017 #18 Share Posted March 15, 2017 We ate in red ginger this evening. Love the duck and watermelon salad. You can keep the rest. Just don't care for it Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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