Why is Disney so much more than Carnival?

[NJporkroll]

Let's put this into perspective. North Korea having ICBM's is outrageous. Disney CL being much more expensive than Carnival is NOT outrageous. That's just Disney.

 

 

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[ryano]

But the question still stands, were they left stranded? The poster (and you in your wording imply they just left them out there when that is far from true, which I believe you already know. The answer of course is no, in fact, both situations were handled well. The poster implied otherwise. All cruise have had issues, I recall both Princess and Royal having to be forced to really comply with a fair solution. Ships are mechanical, and sometimes things happen....to all cruise lines.

 

 

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There you go bringing facts to the table again. How dare you.

 

Im curious as to how the OP would have handled getting several thousand people off a broke cruise ship thats hundreds of miles from shore.

[jimbo5544]

There you go bringing facts to the table again. How dare you.

 

Im curious as to how the OP would have handled getting several thousand people off a broke cruise ship thats hundreds of miles from shore.

The poster just likes to keep things....interesting here. Some others are here with agenda, him not so much. Fact is for both the Splendor and the Triumph, the President (at the time) was at pier side to offer apologies and had senior staff on site to assist with getting people home. While I am sure they would have much preferred had it not happened at all (as would the people on the ship at the time I am sure), it was handled extremely well.

[WeAllLove2Travel]

Another reason is simple supply and demand. Carnival has 25 ships and Disney has 4. I have never been on a Disney cruise. Priced them several times and even had one booked once but cancelled it. I am a huge Disney freak, DVC member and go to Disney once a year. I really want to try DCL but when it comes down to it I always book carnival. I have been on 10 cruises with CCL and have 11 and 12 booked. We have fun on carnival and we really like the casino. But I do plan to sail on Disney one of these days. It may have to be the 3 day one in the off season to be able to afford it.

 

 

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I'm with you! We've sailed with other cruise lines and booked our first DCL in off season as a repositioning cruise to get a better rate. It was still pretty pricey compared to other cruises we've taken but I booked it on a whim because of a glowing review I read on CC. Looking forward to trying them and I'm sure we will LOVE them. However, I am hoping we don't fall too in love with them since the price would allow me to cruise a couple of different times on another cruise line. [emoji23]

 

 

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[Aquahound]

"Stranded" actually means "left without the means to move from somewhere". Since they were moving, albeit slowly, use of the word "stranded" in this case is yet another case of abuse of the English language in an attempt to make some point look more important than it really is.

 

During those incidents, Splendor and Triumph were dead in the water for several days. So yes, the passengers were stranded. That's a fact.

 

But that's as far as I'll take it. Carnival didn't "leave them stranded." They were stranded due to an unfortunate incident coupled with a faulty design. Carnival did everything in their power to take care of those people, and that was proven when Triumph came ashore and the passengers attitudes were a complete 180 from what the media sensationalized.

[lcseale53]

From a friend who recently sailed Disney, and asked an officer about the cost; he was told that even with the higher pricing, the reduced alcohol sales and lack of a casino results in a ships cost recovery period often at, or above, three times that of a Carnival ship.

[First and Ten]

Sad. But I'll probably never try Disney. Don't mean to repeat myself but why spend 5k more for a week when you don't have to. Just think of the 2k you could splurge on extra stuff on Carnival and be 3k ahead to book your next cruise. I don't care how rich you are. Just why would ya?. I'm on the Breeze Sunday. I'll let you know if my 7 and 12 year old will be just fine. ��

 

But the same mindset could be applied to "Why spend an extra $500 - $1000 for a week with a balcony room when you don't have to"? Just why would ya?

 

people like "the mouse", that's why ;)

[bUU]

But the same mindset could be applied to "Why spend an extra $500 - $1000 for a week with a balcony room when you don't have to"? Just why would ya?

Dang that's an excellent point, and perhaps is even more to the point. After all, with an inside cabin you can always go up top and have that balcony view. By contrast, if you stay at the Holiday Inn Winter Haven and have admission to Legoland Florida, that's numerically a much bigger compromise as compared to staying at a Disney hotel with admission to Disney parks.

[Vitaminjtx]

the difference is night and day. Disney is world class. If you have young children, it is completely worth the price. My daughter loves the cruises almost as much as she loves the parks.

[galavant3]

According to chuckhawks.com Carnival is a 3 star line

 

 

 

Which makes total sense! I've been on all three and would rank Royal substantially above Carnival and Celebrity substantially above Royal.

 

I've never been on Disney.

 

 

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[breezy270]

Agreed! This is one of the reasons I have switched to an inside cabin. The extra savings allows me to cruise more than once a year now! The Breeze is a great ship. The kids will love the 3D theater and the water park area is awesome even for us adults the water slides were fun! I cannot remember what deck I think 4 was basically just for the kids with the arcade and all the age divided rooms for the kids programs and the 3D theater is there too. I wondered all cruise where all the teens and kids were until we went to the 3D theater and then I realized they had an entire area of the deck to themselves.

 

 

 

 

Sad. But I'll probably never try Disney. Don't mean to repeat myself but why spend 5k more for a week when you don't have to. Just think of the 2k you could splurge on extra stuff on Carnival and be 3k ahead to book your next cruise. I don't care how rich you are. Just why would ya?. I'm on the Breeze Sunday. I'll let you know if my 7 and 12 year old will be just fine. ��

[Drrandall]

I hear ya breezy. Thrill theatre and that whole deck is gonna be awesome. I'll take the Cat and the Hat instead of Mickey Mouse and have tons more cash to spoil them on our trip. Don't get me wrong. If I made millions every year I wouldn't even question this. I make good money at my job. But I'd rather go on a good cruise and buy my kids what ever they want (well kinda lol). Then spend $1000s on a cruise and penny pinch on board. To each their own. Can't wait for our cruise Sunday. Hope I don't even think about DCL.

[TerReuv]

Smoke and mirrors.....revenue enhancement...LOL:D You are correct they did not reduce expenses, they remove something the consumer had to and made them buy it on the ship...another way to express that....hmmmm what could it be, what could it be...wait I've got it....a cutback. Best line of the day, it's a line of crock but still a good one. Us consumers are like a herd of sheep.

 

LOL - I am definitely going to keep these words in mind when I read the next Carnival Cutback thread. Seriously, any "revenue enhancement" will be seen as a "cutback" from the public. They just won't use such big words. :)

[meatloafsfan]

Which makes total sense! I've been on all three and would rank Royal substantially above Carnival and Celebrity substantially above Royal.

 

I've never been on Disney.

 

 

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And it just goes to show how rankings are subjective. I would rank Royal below Carnival and Celebrity tied with Carnival for my cruising style (I know that Celebrity is a step above Carnival in that there atmosphere, menus, etc are most sophisticated than Carnival's and their entertainment is more traditional and "adult" like violinists, and what not - but for my own "cruisibility" they are equal - different kind of cruises but equal).

 

I base my rankings on how long I could spend on each ship - Carnival I did a 21 night cruise with no issues and I think I could do the same on Celebrity. Royal - on the last one - I was ready to get off after day 4 (it was a 6 night cruise). Disney I could do maybe 10 days before the fakeness started getting to me.

[calvegas04]

Which makes total sense! I've been on all three and would rank Royal substantially above Carnival and Celebrity substantially above Royal.

 

I've never been on Disney.

 

 

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I would agree with the first part, haven't been on Celebrity to agree with the 2nd part

[A&Jfamily]

So, OP, have you decided?

 

I didn't weigh in because I have never done a Disney cruise. And because we always cruise with 2 rooms (a balcony and an inside), Disney is WAY out of our market. Could we afford the cruise? Yep. Would we give up 3 other vacations to make it happen? Nope. Would it be our only vacation of the year? Yep. Would it be worth it? Absolutely NO!

 

Do I enjoy 5 star accommodations, food, shows etc? Absolutely! Am I content with 3 star? Yep. Can I "rough it" with a spartan cabin - (jk - that isn't roughing it!). Sure. All depends on the "needs" of the vacation and as long as those are met, I am happy to be away.

 

I think sometimes, people on these boards, that say come from large cities (NY, Chicago) or the West Coast where salaries are 3 times those that live in much less populated areas, forget that, while their housing and cost of living is 3 times as much, they have 3 times as much disposable income. But I pay the same for a car or a cruise as they do - so it doesn't translate into these areas. Its the reason such people retire to Florida whereas people of more moderate income retire to Panama or other such places!

 

I would rather take multiple vacations of a decent quality than one pricey one!

[Tapi]

"Why spend an extra $500 - $1000 for a week with a balcony room when you don't have to"? Just why would ya?

 

 

It all boils down to "can I afford it?"

 

 

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[sparks1093]

So, OP, have you decided?

 

I didn't weigh in because I have never done a Disney cruise. And because we always cruise with 2 rooms (a balcony and an inside), Disney is WAY out of our market. Could we afford the cruise? Yep. Would we give up 3 other vacations to make it happen? Nope. Would it be our only vacation of the year? Yep. Would it be worth it? Absolutely NO!

 

Do I enjoy 5 star accommodations, food, shows etc? Absolutely! Am I content with 3 star? Yep. Can I "rough it" with a spartan cabin - (jk - that isn't roughing it!). Sure. All depends on the "needs" of the vacation and as long as those are met, I am happy to be away.

 

I think sometimes, people on these boards, that say come from large cities (NY, Chicago) or the West Coast where salaries are 3 times those that live in much less populated areas, forget that, while their housing and cost of living is 3 times as much, they have 3 times as much disposable income. But I pay the same for a car or a cruise as they do - so it doesn't translate into these areas. Its the reason such people retire to Florida whereas people of more moderate income retire to Panama or other such places!

 

I would rather take multiple vacations of a decent quality than one pricey one!

 

I could have written this post (and wrote similar ones in the CCL vs NCL thread:). Anyway, I think the OP's post #142 shows a decision was made.

[First and Ten]

It all boils down to "can I afford it?"

 

 

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Exactly!!!! Some brand names are so ingrained, they can charge more and they get it based on their name association

 

Disney

Apple

Weber

 

These things never go on sale....Certain segments of the population scream "How can you be so expensive, you need to come down in your pricing". Those companies are of the mindset of "if you don't want to pay it, we have thousands of others who will, we don't need you"

[bUU]

LOL - I am definitely going to keep these words in mind when I read the next Carnival Cutback thread. Seriously, any "revenue enhancement" will be seen as a "cutback" from the public. They just won't use such big words. :)

Part of why such threads often drive themselves to pointlessness is because of an extremely aggressive refusal by some posters, generally those bloodthirstily seeking ways to bash the cruise line (whichever cruise line, though I see this more with Royal Caribbean and Holland America than I see it with Carnival or Princess), to even appear to make an attempt to understand anything from anything other than a blindly consumerist perspective. Evidently Sun Tzu is no longer required reading in schools.

[trevette1981]

Not sure, but I took a 4 day, 3 night trip to Paris (hotel and plane tickets for 3 people) for the same price of the same amount of nights for 3 people on a Disney cruise to Castaway Cay. Yes, Paris our food wasn't included, but it wasn't a lot. I'd have been crazy to skip Paris for that Disney cruise to the Bahamas.

 

We moved it to April 2018. It will be our only one because the ones I can afford are only to the Bahamas and once is enough for me. We'll probably stick to the parks.

 

Also not too keen on the kids club being 3 to 12. Are they even broken up? That is a big age gap. Really big.

[jimbo5544]

It all boils down to "can I afford it?"

 

 

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Go for it

 

 

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[Coolauntangie]

It's outrageous. It's like $3500 compared to $8000 to $10000 for an upcoming cruise the 4 of us are looking at. Is the food quality , entertainment, atmosphere really worth the 3 times the price?

 

Disney is amazing from EVERY facet of the cruise experience but VERY pricey! That being said, we love what we get from Carnival for the money. I loved cruising Disney but its just to expensive.

[deborahjo]

Disney is amazing from EVERY facet of the cruise experience but VERY pricey! That being said, we love what we get from Carnival for the money. I loved cruising Disney but its just to expensive.

 

 

 

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[DCLCrazy]

We have done DCL ten times, RCCL 2 times, NCL 2 times and Carnival one time. There's a reason for that. Disney is far and away the best cruise line in cleanliness, service, and safety. Their shows are top notch and customer service listens to the guests. We will never go back to carnival but will go back to RCCL and NCL for other cruises.

 

 

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