sailer1234 Posted November 20, 2017 #1 Share Posted November 20, 2017 What is the minimum bet at the black jack tables on the escape? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb at sea Posted November 20, 2017 #2 Share Posted November 20, 2017 You'll see some $5-6 tables when it's not busy, and it will go up from there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smong Posted November 20, 2017 #3 Share Posted November 20, 2017 What is the minimum bet at the black jack tables on the escape? Just got off! $6 but only 1 table and fills up quick! Then goes to $10 and $15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonTheRadioGuy Posted November 20, 2017 #4 Share Posted November 20, 2017 just got off! $6 but only 1 table and fills up quick! Then goes to $10 and $15 $6? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smong Posted November 20, 2017 #5 Share Posted November 20, 2017 $6? Just 1 $6 minimum table! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonTheRadioGuy Posted November 20, 2017 #6 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Just 1 $6 minimum table! That's just an odd minimum. I wonder if they think it increases the number of $10 bets just because most players would be annoyed at having to use $1 chips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare PTC DAWG Posted November 20, 2017 #7 Share Posted November 20, 2017 I’m think 6 is for an easier black jack payout... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonTheRadioGuy Posted November 20, 2017 #8 Share Posted November 20, 2017 I’m think 6 is for an easier black jack payout... Apparently they don't give you the extra quarter, so they're paying 6:6. They're ripping the player off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esm54687 Posted November 20, 2017 #9 Share Posted November 20, 2017 $5 for hand and mandatory $1 Match the Dealer side bet......... or you can bet the full $6 on hand without side bet Sent from my SM-G955U using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonTheRadioGuy Posted November 21, 2017 #10 Share Posted November 21, 2017 $5 for hand and mandatory $1 Match the Dealer side bet......... or you can bet the full $6 on hand without side bet Sent from my SM-G955U using Forums mobile app Yuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tempus137 Posted November 21, 2017 #11 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I’m think 6 is for an easier black jack payout... Not easier, but lower - even money instead of the normal 3:2. A total rip-off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonTheRadioGuy Posted November 21, 2017 #12 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Not easier, but lower - even money instead of the normal 3:2. A total rip-off. Yep. I guess I won't be playing any blackjack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garycarla Posted November 21, 2017 #13 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Not easier, but lower - even money instead of the normal 3:2. A total rip-off. Do you mean 6:5 and not even? If even, they could just as well stick with $5?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Booze Cruise Posted November 21, 2017 #14 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Not easier, but lower - even money instead of the normal 3:2. A total rip-off. Why couldn't they do that on $5? You sure it isn't 6 so it's easier to pay out the 3:2? Blackjack they give you $9 for $6 bet instead of $7.50 for $5 bet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Booze Cruise Posted November 21, 2017 #15 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Do you mean 6:5 and not even? If even, they could just as well stick with $5?? 6:5 wouldn't make sense either for $6 bets. Blackjack would pay $7.20 If it were 6:5 they'd want bets divisible of 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likacruisa Posted November 21, 2017 #16 Share Posted November 21, 2017 That's just an odd minimum. I wonder if they think it increases the number of $10 bets just because most players would be annoyed at having to use $1 chips. Why be annoyed? Many bets are $1 bets and payoffs are ?/1 as well as some number bets min. being odd odd amounts using $1 chips. Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabidstoat Posted November 21, 2017 #17 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) Sorry, thought I was on Royal Caribbean board! This answer below is about Royal Caribbean and Carnival, not NCL. Though 6:5 blackjack payout on low limit tables is pretty standard on cruise ship casinos I've been to, along with $6 minimum, which means that players betting the minimum get the worst payout possible on blackjacks, making the casino even more money. On Navigator of the Seas now. I was on Carnival Splendor last week. The blackjack tables work pretty much the same. The blackjack tables on Navigator are $6 minimum. Blackjack pays 6:5. As someone else mentioned, this is making it so that if you bet the $6 minimum and hit blackjack, you only get $7 for the blackjack, you're getting basically 7:6 payout which really sucks and means the casino makes (even more) money. It might be that the $25 minimum table will pay you 3:2 on a blackjack, I'm not sure because that's too rich for my blood. Either Carnival Splendor or the RC Navigator (or both) paid 3:2 on blackjack at the $25 minimum table, just not at the low $6 minimum table. On Carnival you could take even money on the blackjack if you got it when the dealer had an Ace showing, which I always did because you were getting 6:6 for the blackjack and if you didn't take even money you risked everything for the extra dollar getting 7:6. On Navigator you can't take even money on blackjack at the $6 minimum table. Though Navigator had $3 minimums from noon to 4pm on the first sea day. We've not had the second sea day yet to see if they'll do it again. They only advertised it on one table but the second table they had open honored the $3 minimum as well. Of course, that means blackjack would only pay out $3 (even money) on the minimum bet. Edited November 21, 2017 by rabidstoat Wrong cruise line, whoops! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jobey Posted November 22, 2017 #18 Share Posted November 22, 2017 The low minimum table on the Escape (I think it was $5, but it could have been $6) pays only 6/5 on a blackjack. I did not realize this until I hit one and questioned my payout. They pointed out that rule and I immediately collected my chips and left the table. That one change amounts to a huge raise in the house's advantage. If you can't afford anything but a table with that rule, quit blackjack and go play video poker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbt001 Posted November 22, 2017 #19 Share Posted November 22, 2017 What is the minimum bet at the black jack tables on the escape? $6 minimums are the "new normal" for blackjack tables along with a 6:5 payout for blackjack and no option to take even money on blackjack should the dealer show an ace. This compares to 3:2 payout for blackjack with the option to take even money on blackjack when the dealer shows an ace. This is now reserved for tables with either a $10 or higher minimum. Although I've heard some casinos are pushing this to tables with a $15 minimum or more. I doubt the accuracy of the comment that at a $6 table it's acceptable to place $1 on the side bet and only $5 in the box for a total of $6. The stated minimum and maximums for a table refer to the the blackjack box. Side bets for "Lucky Ladies," "Royal Pairs," etc. have their own stated min/max bets, usually $1/$10. On two cruises with Escape this year, they have been good about keeping $6 (guessing on that), $10, $15, $25 and $50 minimum tables open for play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esm54687 Posted November 23, 2017 #20 Share Posted November 23, 2017 I doubt the accuracy of the comment that at a $6 table it's acceptable to place $1 on the side bet and only $5 in the box for a total of $6.. Accuracy is 100% based on my personal experience on the Breakaway in March & November of 2016.... the table minimum was $6 and you could put $6 on bet or $5 on bet and $1 on side bet for a total of $6.....you do have a lot of facts for someone hearing about, doubting about and guessing about ... but what do I know, I was the one there Sent from my SM-G955U using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jj343434jj Posted November 23, 2017 #21 Share Posted November 23, 2017 $6 minimums are the "new normal" for blackjack tables along with a 6:5 payout for blackjack and no option to take even money on blackjack should the dealer show an ace. This compares to 3:2 payout for blackjack with the option to take even money on blackjack when the dealer shows an ace. This is now reserved for tables with either a $10 or higher minimum. Although I've heard some casinos are pushing this to tables with a $15 minimum or more. I doubt the accuracy of the comment that at a $6 table it's acceptable to place $1 on the side bet and only $5 in the box for a total of $6. The stated minimum and maximums for a table refer to the the blackjack box. Side bets for "Lucky Ladies," "Royal Pairs," etc. have their own stated min/max bets, usually $1/$10. On two cruises with Escape this year, they have been good about keeping $6 (guessing on that), $10, $15, $25 and $50 minimum tables open for play. Every cruise I've been on with $6 tables, you could bet $6 straight or bet $5 and then $1 on the side which is usually the "lucky ladies" to count as the $6 bet. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbt001 Posted November 23, 2017 #22 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Accuracy is 100% based on my personal experience on the Breakaway in March & November of 2016.... the table minimum was $6 and you could put $6 on bet or $5 on bet and $1 on side bet for a total of $6.....you do have a lot of facts for someone hearing about, doubting about and guessing about ... but what do I know, I was the one there Sent from my SM-G955U using Forums mobile app Sounds like "anything goes" at the Kiddie Tables. You're right, I don't have experience playing at a $6 table, and I did qualify my original post with respect to a $6 table. From experience, however, I can tell you that what you stated you did at the $6 will not work at the $25 and $50 minimum tables where I have played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esm54687 Posted November 23, 2017 #23 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Sounds like "anything goes" at the Kiddie Tables. You're right, I don't have experience playing at a $6 table, and I did qualify my original post with respect to a $6 table. From experience, however, I can tell you that what you stated you did at the $6 will not work at the $25 and $50 minimum tables where I have played. Actually, you challenging my original post with "I doubt the accuracy" and basing it on your experience at tables not even part of the topic is what I expect from "newbies" and not from real players at the higher limit tables. Sent from my SM-G955U using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterboy13 Posted November 23, 2017 #24 Share Posted November 23, 2017 The lowest dollar tables have the 6:5 payout. The tables that start at $15 (and up) are 3:2. This is what I observed during a late Oct17 trip on the Getaway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbt001 Posted November 23, 2017 #25 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Actually, you challenging my original post with "I doubt the accuracy" and basing it on your experience at tables not even part of the topic is what I expect from "newbies" and not from real players at the higher limit tables. Sent from my SM-G955U using Forums mobile app Okay, so rather than getting into a p!ssing contest with you, I've sent the following off to NCL for a response: Hello- I have a Blackjack gaming and wager question that I am seeking a definitive answer from someone of authority as the answer pertains to policy on board NCL ships. Someone has posted publicly the following: "...based on my personal experience on the Breakaway in March & November of 2016.... the table minimum was $6 and you could put $6 on bet or $5 on bet and $1 on side bet for a total of $6..." I challenged this because each blackjack table where I have sat states two sets of limits: Minimum & Maximum for the Blackjack hand as well as a Minimum & Maximum for the side bet hand (currently Lucky Ladies). Is this a misunderstanding? Is NCL making an exception to their own posted limits by allowing a below minimum bet of $5 for a blackjack hand? Is Breakaway bending the rules against NCL gaming policy? With all due respect to both the individual who reads this and myself, based upon my play rating, I am asking that I receive a response back from an individual at a managerial level that is able and authorized to respond in writing on behalf of NCL, stating their full name and title with NCL. That's a c/p and I've only omitted my personal information here. When I get a response, I will post it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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