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Do all NCL ships have a brig aka jail?


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Well, I'll quibble with this post. While a ship is in the territorial waters of any country, that "coastal state's" laws apply to the vessel as well as the laws of the flag state. The general principal applied to untangle this overlap of jurisdiction is that the "port state" or "coastal state's" laws are not enforced for actions onboard the vessel, even in port, unless the action "disrupts the harmony or safety of the port". So, yes, even without a "mutual agreement" (which I'm not sure is true, could you cite a source?), while in Florida waters the ship is under Florida jurisdiction. However, when in the territorial waters of another nation, so not "directly in international waters", Florida law would not apply, and the law of the nation whose waters the ship is in would apply.

 

The US has also announced a form of extra-territiorialism, by demanding that crimes against US citizens that happen upon international waters are to be the jurisdiction of the US.

 

Being a land locked county in FL never had to deal with it, but do remember the white paper coming across about it a few years ago after the settlement and agreement. Will have to see if I still have it saved at work.

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As has probably already answered here. This question was asked on a backstage tour. We were told- the brig is often used for ‘spring breakers etc who need to sleep it off for a while’ if they’re being violent etc. Other crimes, offenses, they can disable the lock and detain the passenger in the cabin. Sometimes security will stand outside a door if the person has died on the cruise, while they’re doing the post Mortem, paper work etc. On one of my cruises last year on the Star, border control officers in Darwin Aus came onboard and took a guy off in handcuffs. There was also a passenger detained on the ship who was not allowed off in Darwin due to creating large disturbances onboard. Two passengers were actually arrested. Rumour was one due to bringing gun/large knife onboard, unsure about the other.

 

 

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About 3 yrs ago, on either the CONSTELLATION or the INFINITY ( I know I know....... that's Celebrity cruise line) a group of vandalizing teen agers destroyed the gingerbread house and some other Xmas decorations, and they were held in their staterooms, with their parents, until the next port, where they were all escorted off. Guards were at the stateroom door(s)

24/7 ~~~~ food was brought at appropriate intervals.

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I traveled on the Getaway several years ago and spent some time in the infirmary with a sick family member. There was another passenger in the next treatment room, handcuffed to a bed, snoring like a bear while a large crew member dressed in white (an officer) sat outside the room. We later found out that the guy had gotten sloshed, got into a fight and was injured; they were letting him sleep it off, and then he was leaving the ship a little early. I guess they were using the infirmary as the brig in that case.

 

I'm accustomed to smiling, friendly crew members who are shorter than me (I am tallish for a girl.) Apparently there is a class of officers who are chosen for size as well as customer service skills - on another cruise, DH and I were at the bar in the Haven when another pax who was snockered came up behind us and put his arms around me. We had chatted before, but we weren't friends and DH, who is a Marine, is not fond of strangers putting their hands on me. I'd had a couple of cocktails myself, so the only thing that popped out of my mouth when I got that hug was "Dude, do you want to DIE???", at which point the guy got a look at DH (who never moved) and slowly, slowly, slowly eased away. We went back to what we were doing, no harm, no foul. Shortly after, 2 large officers had a conversation with the drunk guy, and they all went someplace else.

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Not sure if it's still the case, but in the past the majority of NCL security officers were Gurkha. These small Nepalese soldiers, both male and female, are some of the most feared warriors in the world. I personally have seen a 110 lb female Gurkha take down an obstreperous welder, weighing in well over 200 lb, with just a pressure hold, and without mussing her uniform in the slightest. This is why NCL security officers have crossed Khukuris on their shoulder boards, as these are the traditional weapon of Gurkhas.

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Not sure if it's still the case, but in the past the majority of NCL security officers were Gurkha. These small Nepalese soldiers, both male and female, are some of the most feared warriors in the world. I personally have seen a 110 lb female Gurkha take down an obstreperous welder, weighing in well over 200 lb, with just a pressure hold, and without mussing her uniform in the slightest. This is why NCL security officers have crossed Khukuris on their shoulder boards, as these are the traditional weapon of Gurkhas.

 

 

 

How interesting! On others they seem to use former Israeli soldiers

 

 

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