Rare 3rdGenCunarder Posted March 21, 2018 #101 Share Posted March 21, 2018 I am not a number. I am a free man! Drat! You beat me to it. When we went to Portmerion many years ago, I bought a button that said that for my boss. I still have the one I bought for myself pinned up over my desk. "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered." We dined with Orlando Ashford twice ... just not at the same table! :cool:;p In a sense, we've all dined at "his" table. :cool:(Too bad we have to pick up the tab) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 3rdGenCunarder Posted March 21, 2018 #102 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Canadians are exempt from paying tax on prize winnings. An experienced traveller will take into account that they will be bringing more home with them than they started with. I didn't know you had that exemption. Lottery, too? At the end of every game show we have a disclaimer that contestants "must meet eligibility requirements," which I think means they have to fill out tax forms before they're allowed to win anything. I think there are two kinds of experienced travelers in this instance. Those that like to bring home souvenirs do allow for that. I do, although I plan to stick to small items (unless there are going to be good yarn sources). The others are the people who don't care about souvenirs, either for themselves or for friends and family. If they know they won't buy anything, they don't need to save space for extra stuff. As for lugging the book home, read it on the cruise (or if you find you don't like it, stop reading) and leave it behind. Unless it turns out to be a book you love and know you will revisit often, how likely are you to read it again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kazu Posted March 21, 2018 #103 Share Posted March 21, 2018 I didn't know you had that exemption. Lottery, too? At the end of every game show we have a disclaimer that contestants "must meet eligibility requirements," which I think means they have to fill out tax forms before they're allowed to win anything. I think there are two kinds of experienced travelers in this instance. Those that like to bring home souvenirs do allow for that. I do, although I plan to stick to small items (unless there are going to be good yarn sources). The others are the people who don't care about souvenirs, either for themselves or for friends and family. If they know they won't buy anything, they don't need to save space for extra stuff. As for lugging the book home, read it on the cruise (or if you find you don't like it, stop reading) and leave it behind. Unless it turns out to be a book you love and know you will revisit often, how likely are you to read it again? Lottery too. :D My casino winnings on board (when it happened), were mine to keep. No tax. Same thing with bingo (but I've never won the big jackpot ;) ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 3rdGenCunarder Posted March 21, 2018 #104 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Lottery too. :D My casino winnings on board (when it happened), were mine to keep. No tax. Same thing with bingo (but I've never won the big jackpot ;) ) That's nice! Now you just have to win the big bingo jackpot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kazu Posted March 21, 2018 #105 Share Posted March 21, 2018 That's nice! Now you just have to win the big bingo jackpot! LOL :). That would be nice :) :'). I'm not holding my breath, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisemom42 Posted March 21, 2018 #106 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Actually, in most cases, an experienced traveler doesn’t buy a lot of crap while on a cruise. I can hardly wait until I am "a more experienced traveler". Do you think this will come before or after I get my Travel Century Club Silver membership in a few more trips? Or maybe after we finally get to our HAL Gold Medallion after our next cruises. I am always eager to learn new things. While I am not a country chaser -- I prefer to visit places where I have a strong interest and often will visit them again and again -- I like to think I am an 'experienced traveler'. I just checked for fun, and I have made visits to 84 of the countries and territories on the official Travel Century Club list (a list with which I'd have some significant quibbles if I took it at all seriously) in my early 50s. I hope to visit many more, but some are just not places that have the history I crave. At any rate, perhaps us experienced travelers don't bring back 'crap', but in looking around my house this morning I will admit to enjoying the two hand-colored antique prints from Rome on the wall above my couch which is draped with a gorgeous tribal throw from Syria and graced with a cut-velvet pillow cover from Venice. On the table in front of it rests a piece of antique silver from Singapore and a lovely inlaid wooden box from Japan. On the floor a hand-woven rug from Egypt and in the window a pair of modern blown glass birds from Finland bask in the sunlight. Not forgetting the Portuguese Coimba pottery tray or wooden serving pieces from Israel in my kitchen, among other finds. Doesn't just about every article containing travel tips suggest tucking a small packable bag or duffle in one's luggage just in case? I am not a big shopper, but bringing such a bag has come to my rescue many a time over the years and enabled me to bring home some unique pieces that otherwise would have been problematic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 3rdGenCunarder Posted March 21, 2018 #107 Share Posted March 21, 2018 While I am not a country chaser -- I prefer to visit places where I have a strong interest and often will visit them again and again -- I like to think I am an 'experienced traveler'. I just checked for fun, and I have made visits to 84 of the countries and territories on the official Travel Century Club list (a list with which I'd have some significant quibbles if I took it at all seriously) in my early 50s. I hope to visit many more, but some are just not places that have the history I crave. At any rate, perhaps us experienced travelers don't bring back 'crap', but in looking around my house this morning I will admit to enjoying the two hand-colored antique prints from Rome on the wall above my couch which is draped with a gorgeous tribal throw from Syria and graced with a cut-velvet pillow cover from Venice. On the table in front of it rests a piece of antique silver from Singapore and a lovely inlaid wooden box from Japan. On the floor a hand-woven rug from Egypt and in the window a pair of modern blown glass birds from Finland bask in the sunlight. Not forgetting the Portuguese Coimba pottery tray or wooden serving pieces from Israel in my kitchen, among other finds. Doesn't just about every article containing travel tips suggest tucking a small packable bag or duffle in one's luggage just in case? I am not a big shopper, but bringing such a bag has come to my rescue many a time over the years and enabled me to bring home some unique pieces that otherwise would have been problematic. (bold is mine) It's a standard item in my packing. I don't recall seeing luggage in HAL's logo shops, or maybe I never looked. But getting off Cunard cruises, I've seen quite a few very new-looking pieces of their canvas logo luggage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennybear Posted March 21, 2018 #108 Share Posted March 21, 2018 While I am not a country chaser -- I prefer to visit places where I have a strong interest and often will visit them again and again -- I like to think I am an 'experienced traveler'. I just checked for fun, and I have made visits to 84 of the countries and territories on the official Travel Century Club list (a list with which I'd have some significant quibbles if I took it at all seriously) in my early 50s. I hope to visit many more, but some are just not places that have the history I crave. At any rate, perhaps us experienced travelers don't bring back 'crap', but in looking around my house this morning I will admit to enjoying the two hand-colored antique prints from Rome on the wall above my couch which is draped with a gorgeous tribal throw from Syria and graced with a cut-velvet pillow cover from Venice. On the table in front of it rests a piece of antique silver from Singapore and a lovely inlaid wooden box from Japan. On the floor a hand-woven rug from Egypt and in the window a pair of modern blown glass birds from Finland bask in the sunlight. Not forgetting the Portuguese Coimba pottery tray or wooden serving pieces from Israel in my kitchen, among other finds. Doesn't just about every article containing travel tips suggest tucking a small packable bag or duffle in one's luggage just in case? I am not a big shopper, but bringing such a bag has come to my rescue many a time over the years and enabled me to bring home some unique pieces that otherwise would have been problematic. Oh me too! Some places I cannot get enough of! I love the memories of my lemon dishes and linens from Ireland, France and Italy. A beautiful inlaid wood tray from Sorrento. And I dragged Bone China home from England on one occasion and had it shipped on another when Harrods had a sale, lol! And my Russian teapot and antique silver tea glass holders and a hand knit mohair sweater from Estonia. But mostly now I buy teas, scarves and jewellery, easy to carry! I love my antique rose gold locket from Belfast and silver starfish from Greece. And the odd Italian handbag;) I also cannot live without Greek honey but luckily I can now buy it at home. My granddaughter loves the Greek wool Pom Pom slippers. Ok I need to stop now:D I do have a small collapsible bag that fits inside a suitcase that has also rescued us on several occasions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HvySeezFcstr Posted March 21, 2018 #109 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Hospitality and travel industry marketing is not my area of expertise, so I can't respond to your questions. Roz ................................................................. Like your idea of Rick Steeve's being a grrrreat fit for HAL. I though there already were reading areas aboard HAL ships, why a reading room with a celebrities name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 3rdGenCunarder Posted March 21, 2018 #110 Share Posted March 21, 2018 ................................................................. Like your idea of Rick Steeve's being a grrrreat fit for HAL. I though there already were reading areas aboard HAL ships, why a reading room with a celebrities name? I don't think it's going to be a dedicated space. A poster has reported that on his/her cruise, it was a get together in one of the lounges, not an actual room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skorpora Posted March 22, 2018 #111 Share Posted March 22, 2018 While I am not a country chaser -- I prefer to visit places where I have a strong interest and often will visit them again and again -- I like to think I am an 'experienced traveler'. I just checked for fun, and I have made visits to 84 of the countries and territories on the official Travel Century Club list (a list with which I'd have some significant quibbles if I took it at all seriously) in my early 50s. I hope to visit many more, but some are just not places that have the history I crave. At any rate, perhaps us experienced travelers don't bring back 'crap', but in looking around my house this morning I will admit to enjoying the two hand-colored antique prints from Rome on the wall above my couch which is draped with a gorgeous tribal throw from Syria and graced with a cut-velvet pillow cover from Venice. On the table in front of it rests a piece of antique silver from Singapore and a lovely inlaid wooden box from Japan. On the floor a hand-woven rug from Egypt and in the window a pair of modern blown glass birds from Finland bask in the sunlight. Not forgetting the Portuguese Coimba pottery tray or wooden serving pieces from Israel in my kitchen, among other finds. Doesn't just about every article containing travel tips suggest tucking a small packable bag or duffle in one's luggage just in case? I am not a big shopper, but bringing such a bag has come to my rescue many a time over the years and enabled me to bring home some unique pieces that otherwise would have been problematic. I appreciate your civilized comments :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrolleyGirl Posted March 22, 2018 #112 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I don't think it's going to be a dedicated space. A poster has reported that on his/her cruise, it was a get together in one of the lounges, not an actual room. I believe the poster you are referring to is me. You are correct in your recall. When on the Eurodam this past fall there was a book club gathering lead by the cruise director featuring the O book selection, Anything is Possible, it was held in the Gallery Bar. There was no "O" signage anywhere. So I suspect this will be the setup in the future once the official book club rolls out in May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlsSalt Posted March 22, 2018 #113 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Since "Oprah's Favorite Things" is now part of the new HAL onboard Oprah branding, with this logo emblazoned on the wall outside the dedicated onboard shop, will this shop's inventory be limited to Oprah's curated group of products along with her commentary on each of them? For a sample of "Oprah's Favorite Things 2016": http://www.oprah.com/gift/Oprahs-Favorite-Things-2016-Full-List-Oprahs-Poinsettia-Flower-Pot-Cake?editors_pick_id=65969 The Oprah branded "Just Breathe" early morning meditation event on the Veendam this winter did have a dedicated space on the Lido deck, with special banners and a full set up the crew had to install and then take down. The whole point of the Oprah branding is to get her name, face and message inserted into the HAL cruise experience every way possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare dogo88 Posted March 22, 2018 #114 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Hey, maybe she's decided to invest in HAL. Like she did in Weight Watchers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 3rdGenCunarder Posted March 22, 2018 #115 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Since "Oprah's Favorite Things" is now part of the new HAL onboard Oprah branding, with this logo emblazoned on the wall outside the dedicated onboard shop, will this shop's inventory be limited to Oprah's curated group of products along with her commentary on each of them? For a sample of "Oprah's Favorite Things 2016": http://www.oprah.com/gift/Oprahs-Favorite-Things-2016-Full-List-Oprahs-Poinsettia-Flower-Pot-Cake?editors_pick_id=65969 The Oprah branded "Just Breathe" early morning meditation event on the Veendam this winter did have a dedicated space on the Lido deck, with special banners and a full set up the crew had to install and then take down. The whole point of the Oprah branding is to get her name, face and message inserted into the HAL cruise experience every way possible. (bold is mine) Do you have a picture of this logo sign? For the life of me, I can't picture where it was when we were on K'dam recently, and I did walk by the shops several times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 3rdGenCunarder Posted March 22, 2018 #116 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I believe the poster you are referring to is me. You are correct in your recall. When on the Eurodam this past fall there was a book club gathering lead by the cruise director featuring the O book selection, Anything is Possible, it was held in the Gallery Bar. There was no "O" signage anywhere. So I suspect this will be the setup in the future once the official book club rolls out in May. Thanks! I knew I read it somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlsSalt Posted March 22, 2018 #117 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (bold is mine) Do you have a picture of this logo sign? For the life of me, I can't picture where it was when we were on K'dam recently, and I did walk by the shops several times. I was on the Veendam - it was where the former general merchandise shop (mainly clothes) was located next to what is now a HAL logo shop. Near the atrium towards the showroom. Big letters - I did not go in so I don't know what the inventory is or will be. But since this is a "trademark" collection of goods, all personally validated by Oprah herself, I assume it would include these personal picks of hers that can also be found online on her website. Probably not the $200 bird houses, or the $15,000 gold bracelets, but I suspect some of the more modestly under $100 gimmrack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 3rdGenCunarder Posted March 22, 2018 #118 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) I was on the Veendam - it was where the former general merchandise shop (mainly clothes) was located next to what is now a HAL logo shop. Near the atrium towards the showroom. Big letters - I did not go in so I don't know what the inventory is or will be. But since this is a "trademark" collection of goods, all personally validated by Oprah herself, I assume it would include these personal picks of hers that can also be found online on her website. Probably not the $200 bird houses, or the $15,000 gold bracelets, but I suspect some of the more modestly under $100 gimmrack. I didn't see any signs like that on K'dam. There wasn't a dedicated O shop. I didn't see any O stuff, but I'm told there was some of her "curated" stuff in an area of the general clothing shop. Perhaps the signs and separate shop are appearing only as ships go into drydock? Edited March 22, 2018 by 3rdGenCunarder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iancal Posted March 22, 2018 #119 Share Posted March 22, 2018 We do not hate Oprah. We just think that she is a sanctimonious windbag whose primary goal is personal aggrandisement. But, we are not big fans of daytime television. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellieanne Posted March 22, 2018 #120 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Since "Oprah's Favorite Things" is now part of the new HAL onboard Oprah branding, with this logo emblazoned on the wall outside the dedicated onboard shop, will this shop's inventory be limited to Oprah's curated group of products along with her commentary on each of them? For a sample of "Oprah's Favorite Things 2016": http://www.oprah.com/gift/Oprahs-Favorite-Things-2016-Full-List-Oprahs-Poinsettia-Flower-Pot-Cake?editors_pick_id=65969 The Oprah branded "Just Breathe" early morning meditation event on the Veendam this winter did have a dedicated space on the Lido deck, with special banners and a full set up the crew had to install and then take down. The whole point of the Oprah branding is to get her name, face and message inserted into the HAL cruise experience every way possible. People's names and faces being plastered everywhere reminds me of my grandmother's saying "fool's names and fool's faces are often seen in public places." And not just Oprah, I feel the same way about anyone and everyone trying to extend their fifteen minutes of fame or prolong their influence - actors, chefs, politicians, athletes, musicians, the "famous-for-being-famous," everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted March 22, 2018 #121 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Hey, maybe she's decided to invest in HAL. Like she did in Weight Watchers. If so, I hope she funds the deck barbeque so we can have it again. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Roz Posted March 22, 2018 #122 Share Posted March 22, 2018 How do you feel about athletes' likenesses on boxes of Wheaties? Roz Sent from my SM-S820L using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlsSalt Posted March 22, 2018 #123 Share Posted March 22, 2018 How do you feel about athletes' likenesses on boxes of Wheaties? Roz Sent from my SM-S820L using Forums mobile app I feel this means the product will cost more that it should. And in the case of Wheaties, using popular images to sell junk food to vulnerable young consumers who then demand their parents buy the branded item, instead of a cheaper generic, or ask for a bowl of real food oatmeal instead. To me "celebrity" branding means less value; not value added. Though I admit, do have at least one HAL logo jacket - that has very subtle same color Holland America monograming on the sleeve cuff, and I really needed that item because I had not packed for the weather properly on our first cruise. DH also has an extremely cool jacket with a very small Maasdam flag embroidery on the chest, from that same cruise - both very high quality, stand alone items on their own. (That was back in 2009.) The sad joke is now that we get a discount on HAL logo items, there is nothing we want to buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SetAnOpenCourse Posted March 23, 2018 #124 Share Posted March 23, 2018 People's names and faces being plastered everywhere reminds me of my grandmother's saying "fool's names and fool's faces are often seen in public places." And not just Oprah, I feel the same way about anyone and everyone trying to extend their fifteen minutes of fame or prolong their influence - actors, chefs, politicians, athletes, musicians, the "famous-for-being-famous," everyone Compared to the many vapid “personalities” you see on magazines in the grocery store check out lane, Oprah has more going for her, IMO. And I think her motivation is not as self-centered as many celebrities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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