kurtp13 Posted December 8, 2018 #1 Share Posted December 8, 2018 I keep seeing trip reports where people mention crowded dining areas and saying the crew is eating and using some of the area. I dont remember the crew eating in public areas at all. Maybe officers but I don't even have specific memory of them eating in public areas. Except the captain in a speciality restaurant, I do remember that. Don't the crew normally dine in crew specific areas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted December 8, 2018 #2 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Officers can use guest areas including dining,crew cannot. All entertainers are considered officers. We see entertainers eating in specialty restaurants quite often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted December 8, 2018 #3 Share Posted December 8, 2018 As a side note I just read an article that all crew (non officers) with TUI are now allowed to use guest areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted December 8, 2018 #4 Share Posted December 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, Ourusualbeach said: Officers can use guest areas including dining,crew cannot. All entertainers are considered officers. We see entertainers eating in specialty restaurants quite often. I generally dont see staff in the WJ until the last hour or so. I've also seen shop personnel and Steiner girls 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merion_Mom Posted December 8, 2018 #5 Share Posted December 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: I generally dont see staff in the WJ until the last hour or so. I've also seen shop personnel and Steiner girls Girls?!?!??! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted December 8, 2018 #6 Share Posted December 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, Merion_Mom said: Girls?!?!??! Ask a crew member. Surprised you've never heard it before. It might be a wee bit dated, but I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merion_Mom Posted December 8, 2018 #7 Share Posted December 8, 2018 25 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: Ask a crew member. Surprised you've never heard it before. It might be a wee bit dated, but I doubt it. I am not reading anyone else's words. I'm reading yours, and they are not appropriate. Please enter the 21st century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted December 8, 2018 #8 Share Posted December 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Merion_Mom said: I am not reading anyone else's words. I'm reading yours, and they are not appropriate. Please enter the 21st century. Usage for adults The word girl is sometimes used to refer to an adult female, usually a younger one. This usage may be considered derogatory or disrespectful in professional or other formal contexts, just as the term boy can be considered disparaging when applied to an adult man. Hence, this usage is often deprecative.[1] It can also be used deprecatively when used to discriminate against children ("you're just a girl"). However, girl can also be a professional designation for a woman employed as a model or other public feminine representative such as a showgirl, and in such cases is not generally considered derogatory. In casual context, the word has positive uses, as evidenced by its use in titles of popular music. It has been used playfully for people acting in an energetic fashion (Canadian singer Nelly Furtado's "Promiscuous Girl") or as a way of unifying women of all ages on the basis of their once having been girls (American country singer Martina McBride's "This One's for the Girls"). These positive uses mean gender rather than age. 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merion_Mom Posted December 8, 2018 #9 Share Posted December 8, 2018 26 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: Usage for adults The word girl is sometimes used to refer to an adult female, usually a younger one. This usage may be considered derogatory or disrespectful in professional or other formal contexts, just as the term boy can be considered disparaging when applied to an adult man. Hence, this usage is often deprecative.[1] It can also be used deprecatively when used to discriminate against children ("you're just a girl"). However, girl can also be a professional designation for a woman employed as a model or other public feminine representative such as a showgirl, and in such cases is not generally considered derogatory. In casual context, the word has positive uses, as evidenced by its use in titles of popular music. It has been used playfully for people acting in an energetic fashion (Canadian singer Nelly Furtado's "Promiscuous Girl") or as a way of unifying women of all ages on the basis of their once having been girls (American country singer Martina McBride's "This One's for the Girls"). These positive uses mean gender rather than age. Methinks thou doth protest too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted December 8, 2018 #10 Share Posted December 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Merion_Mom said: Methinks thou doth protest too much. Kettle - pot 🤣 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashland Posted December 8, 2018 #11 Share Posted December 8, 2018 We usually eat dinner in the WJ .... and yes many staff (including the captain occasionally) eat in there nightly although they seem to come in very late in the evening. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ownedbypets Posted December 8, 2018 #12 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Maybe they can dine in the specialty restaurants for special occasions. My stateroom attendant posted pictures celebrating a wedding between 2 crew members and they were in Chops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nado44 Posted December 8, 2018 #13 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Slightly off the point. As a pax, I'd personally love to eat in the crew areas instead of the WJ or MDR. And get to know the folks there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted December 8, 2018 #14 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Officers of 2.5 stripes and above are allowed to use guest facilities, restaurants, gym, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clean1owner Posted December 8, 2018 #15 Share Posted December 8, 2018 6 hours ago, John&LaLa said: Usage for adults The word girl is sometimes used to refer to an adult female, usually a younger one. This usage may be considered derogatory or disrespectful in professional or other formal contexts, just as the term boy can be considered disparaging when applied to an adult man. Hence, this usage is often deprecative.[1] It can also be used deprecatively when used to discriminate against children ("you're just a girl"). However, girl can also be a professional designation for a woman employed as a model or other public feminine representative such as a showgirl, and in such cases is not generally considered derogatory. In casual context, the word has positive uses, as evidenced by its use in titles of popular music. It has been used playfully for people acting in an energetic fashion (Canadian singer Nelly Furtado's "Promiscuous Girl") or as a way of unifying women of all ages on the basis of their once having been girls (American country singer Martina McBride's "This One's for the Girls"). These positive uses mean gender rather than age. Girls, Girls, Girls! (Elvis the pelvis) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtp13 Posted December 8, 2018 Author #16 Share Posted December 8, 2018 I must not have noticed if crew are present so often. The comments I saw were guests upset that a venue was too crowded and felt the crew unjustly contributed to the congestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted December 8, 2018 #17 Share Posted December 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, kurtp13 said: The comments I saw were guests upset that a venue was too crowded and felt the crew unjustly contributed to the congestion. and in keeping with CC tradition, the discussion veers....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisegirl1 Posted December 8, 2018 #18 Share Posted December 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Nado44 said: Slightly off the point. As a pax, I'd personally love to eat in the crew areas instead of the WJ or MDR. And get to know the folks there. A recent cruise (it was either Brilliance or Oasis ) offered a crew area tour for a fee. I think around $50. M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LidoBoy Posted December 8, 2018 #19 Share Posted December 8, 2018 (edited) I don't hang out in the spa area, so are there no Steiner guys (or boys)? Edited December 8, 2018 by LidoBoy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted December 8, 2018 #20 Share Posted December 8, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Host Clarea said: Officers of 2.5 stripes and above are allowed to use guest facilities, restaurants, gym, etc. I saw a spreadsheet in an infirmary showing crew benefits based on stripes. I think I took a picture of it. They may have to pay to eat in guest venues if they are lower status levels. It also described cabin type and how they can bring guests Edited December 8, 2018 by John&LaLa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinders411 Posted December 8, 2018 #21 Share Posted December 8, 2018 I have seen officers in the Windjammer but, always later in the evening not when it was crowded with guests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LidoBoy Posted December 8, 2018 #22 Share Posted December 8, 2018 We were in Izumi on the last night of a cruise and a large group of entertainment staff (8-12) came in for dinner. The problem with this, as with any restaurant, a large party can slow down the service/kitchen. Good thing we got our order in prior to them showing up. Normally in the WJ, I only see staff in the final hour when it's nearly dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruisercl Posted December 8, 2018 #23 Share Posted December 8, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, John&LaLa said: Usage for adults The word girl is sometimes used to refer to an adult female, usually a younger one. This usage may be considered derogatory or disrespectful in professional or other formal contexts, just as the term boy can be considered disparaging when applied to an adult man. Hence, this usage is often deprecative.[1] It can also be used deprecatively when used to discriminate against children ("you're just a girl"). However, girl can also be a professional designation for a woman employed as a model or other public feminine representative such as a showgirl, and in such cases is not generally considered derogatory. In casual context, the word has positive uses, as evidenced by its use in titles of popular music. It has been used playfully for people acting in an energetic fashion (Canadian singer Nelly Furtado's "Promiscuous Girl") or as a way of unifying women of all ages on the basis of their once having been girls (American country singer Martina McBride's "This One's for the Girls"). These positive uses mean gender rather than age. (Off topic) Is there a source/reference for these definitions or are they an opinion? Edited December 8, 2018 by Cruisercl Typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekathy Posted December 8, 2018 #24 Share Posted December 8, 2018 (edited) We ate with the officers a couple of different times. Edited December 8, 2018 by davekathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisinghawg Posted December 8, 2018 #25 Share Posted December 8, 2018 We have seen the entertainers eat in the public restaurants on many occasions. I guess they are contracted personnel and not employees of RCI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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