dgs1956 Posted October 4, 2019 #26 Share Posted October 4, 2019 28 minutes ago, Ataraxia said: I just have a thing about people making up laws to suit their argument. I have a thing about people twisting what was said. I said it was illegal to smoke in a restaurant and P&O policy will be clearly explained to all staff and contractors. Part of that will be about vaping in restaurants which is not allowed and which any person who has any respect or consideration for other people would not contemplate doing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowzz Posted October 4, 2019 #27 Share Posted October 4, 2019 3 hours ago, dgs1956 said: I have a thing about people twisting what was said. I said it was illegal to smoke in a restaurant and P&O policy will be clearly explained to all staff and contractors. Part of that will be about vaping in restaurants which is not allowed and which any person who has any respect or consideration for other people would not contemplate doing. Well said. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bell Boy Posted October 5, 2019 #28 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Shore Officials ? how do you know ( OP) that they were officials ? They could have been anyone who had a visitors pass. Either way, vaping is not permitted on board P&O in public areas. Sounds more like they were day visitors. Nothing at all to do with P&O officials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillieJeanKaraokeKing Posted October 6, 2019 #29 Share Posted October 6, 2019 While it's mildly frustrating, I wouldn't let it bother me in the slightest. There will always be people who are going to be inconsiderate, even after you might challenge them, so I'd probably joke they were southerners 😏 and crack on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crompton21 Posted October 6, 2019 #30 Share Posted October 6, 2019 15 hours ago, Bell Boy said: Either way, vaping is not permitted on board P&O in public areas As a non smoker, I think I am right in saying that vaping/smoking is permitted in designated public areas. For those who haven't cruised there are 2/3 areas where smoking or vaping is permitted, these are public areas. These are outside areas and not internal. P & O rules forbid smoking/vaping in your room or on your balcony. Should you decide to flout those rules, in extreme you could be removed from the ship. The last time I looked, Cunard still had an internal "Cigar bar". The choice of smoking policy is made by the cruise line as a commercial decision, not in adherence to U.K. law. Vaping does not currently come under Government "smoke free" legislation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyMichelle Posted October 6, 2019 #31 Share Posted October 6, 2019 59 minutes ago, BillieJeanKaraokeKing said: While it's mildly frustrating, I wouldn't let it bother me in the slightest. There will always be people who are going to be inconsiderate, even after you might challenge them, so I'd probably joke they were southerners 😏 and crack on. Are you saying us Southerners are inconsiderate... I always stay seated on the train or bus allowing the old person to stretch their legs... See, considerate 😊 Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brillo Posted October 6, 2019 #32 Share Posted October 6, 2019 1 hour ago, BillieJeanKaraokeKing said: While it's mildly frustrating, I wouldn't let it bother me in the slightest. There will always be people who are going to be inconsiderate, even after you might challenge them, so I'd probably joke they were southerners 😏 and crack on. Ignorant of the rules puffed up with their own importance Yorkshiremen surly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrierjohn Posted October 6, 2019 #33 Share Posted October 6, 2019 34 minutes ago, brillo said: Ignorant of the rules puffed up with their own importance Yorkshiremen surly Didn't you know Brillo that Yorkshiremen are excused obeying rules, which of course are for the guidance of we wise men, but the observance of fools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillieJeanKaraokeKing Posted October 6, 2019 #34 Share Posted October 6, 2019 57 minutes ago, AndyMichelle said: Are you saying us Southerners are inconsiderate... I always stay seated on the train or bus allowing the old person to stretch their legs... See, considerate 😊 Andy Go on then, there's enough logic in there to let you have that one lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartanexile81 Posted October 6, 2019 #35 Share Posted October 6, 2019 I think the point is that these people knew they were doing wrong as they were asked to stop but re-started after a few minutes. Whether or not they knew the law or knew the rules on P&O prior to this is irrelevant because it was made clear to them it was not allowed. Some people just can't help themselves. It's all part of the me, me, me culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian1 Posted October 6, 2019 #36 Share Posted October 6, 2019 A lot of ships have smoking areas at the back,even close to the buffet,which I disagree with.I think even nonsmokers have started vaping now.It would be OK if it didn't produce a vast smokescreen.I might start a trend and carry a hubblebubble pipe on my back and see what happens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les_ldh Posted October 6, 2019 #37 Share Posted October 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, brian1 said: A lot of ships have smoking areas at the back,even close to the buffet,which I disagree with.I think even nonsmokers have started vaping now.It would be OK if it didn't produce a vast smokescreen.I might start a trend and carry a hubblebubble pipe on my back and see what happens. No, you’ve got me there. Absolutely no idea. 🤷♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian1 Posted October 6, 2019 #38 Share Posted October 6, 2019 12 minutes ago, Les_ldh said: No, you’ve got me there. Absolutely no idea. 🤷♂️ That's not me on the right,I'm out of shot waiting for my turn.You Northern guys have never lived man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les_ldh Posted October 6, 2019 #39 Share Posted October 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, brian1 said: That's not me on the right,I'm out of shot waiting for my turn.You Northern guys have never lived man. Ah, one of those 😂. I’ve led a very sheltered life 🤣 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bell Boy Posted October 6, 2019 #40 Share Posted October 6, 2019 3 hours ago, crompton21 said: As a non smoker, I think I am right in saying that vaping/smoking is permitted in designated public areas. For those who haven't cruised there are 2/3 areas where smoking or vaping is permitted, these are public areas. These are outside areas and not internal. P & O rules forbid smoking/vaping in your room or on your balcony. Should you decide to flout those rules, in extreme you could be removed from the ship. The last time I looked, Cunard still had an internal "Cigar bar". The choice of smoking policy is made by the cruise line as a commercial decision, not in adherence to U.K. law. Vaping does not currently come under Government "smoke free" legislation. Isn't that more or less what I posted Crompton21. ( post 28) It's common sense that Smoking or Vaping is only permitted in 'designated areas' which is obviously 'outside in designated areas' ( this is the norm now on most cruise lines these days ) In my reference to 'Public Areas' I was referring to 'indoor' public venues eg Bars, Lounges, restaurants. I believe most smokers when on cruise ships respect the directive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pentlands Posted October 6, 2019 #41 Share Posted October 6, 2019 14 hours ago, terrierjohn said: Didn't you know Brillo that Yorkshiremen are excused obeying rules, which of course are for the guidance of we wise men, but the observance of fools. Tha can alus tell a Yorkshire man But tha can't tell 'im much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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