The Wanderer_112358 Posted November 9, 2019 #1 Share Posted November 9, 2019 I am booked on the NCL Star departing from Barcelona on Nov. 22 for Miami. I heard that they were having to replace an engine, which meant cutting a huge hole in the hull to remove and replace the damaged engine. Where will this be done? Will they have time to do this in just two weeks before the Barcelona sailing? What about current passengers on the ship right now? Anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wanderer_112358 Posted November 9, 2019 Author #2 Share Posted November 9, 2019 I called NCL and asked about this and was told that everything is fine... Well, that wasn't much help. I thought someone on the ship right now might know. Or anyone that might have been told anything. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wanderer_112358 Posted November 9, 2019 Author #3 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Obviously from what I read, the engine is not repairable in the ship. The whole engine will have to be replaced. So, where can that be done? How long would that take? Could the ship continue on a transatlantic voyage with one dead engine? Are current passengers being removed and sent home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ColeThornton Posted November 9, 2019 #4 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Um...why are you having a conversation with yourself? 🙂 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wanderer_112358 Posted November 9, 2019 Author #5 Share Posted November 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, ColeThornton said: Um...why are you having a conversation with yourself? 🙂 Um, why do you care? 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ColeThornton Posted November 9, 2019 #6 Share Posted November 9, 2019 1 minute ago, The Wanderer_112358 said: Um, why do you care? 🙂 Because it's a slow Friday night and I have nothing better to do. Star Trek and a glass of wine isn't cutting it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hladygirl Posted November 9, 2019 #7 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mking8288 Posted November 9, 2019 #8 Share Posted November 9, 2019 It's looks fine, still afloat in the calm Adriatic Sea doing 18 knots, 313 degrees heading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarar Posted November 9, 2019 #9 Share Posted November 9, 2019 The cruise at the moment has had Itinerary changes and my one starting tomorrow has had Santorini dropped and only a 2 hour stop in Montenegro at night when nothing is open, the cruise at the moment has had 4 ports dropped. Only been offered $100 per cabin and we have to share that between 3 and a 20% FCC when I wont go with them again for another 6 years probably as their Guest Services is shocking as always. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wanderer_112358 Posted November 9, 2019 Author #10 Share Posted November 9, 2019 2 hours ago, sarar said: The cruise at the moment has had Itinerary changes and my one starting tomorrow has had Santorini dropped and only a 2 hour stop in Montenegro at night when nothing is open, the cruise at the moment has had 4 ports dropped. Only been offered $100 per cabin and we have to share that between 3 and a 20% FCC when I wont go with them again for another 6 years probably as their Guest Services is shocking as always. Do you know if the engine repairs have been done or is the ship just getting by with one less engine? Any updates from the bridge? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarar Posted November 9, 2019 #11 Share Posted November 9, 2019 I have just had an itinerary change email from NCL Montenegro a Technical stop only but we all knew that anyway🤔. Don’t understand by the email if they are giving us an additional $100 per stateroom for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wanderer_112358 Posted November 9, 2019 Author #12 Share Posted November 9, 2019 1 hour ago, sarar said: I have just had an itinerary change email from NCL Montenegro a Technical stop only but we all knew that anyway🤔. Don’t understand by the email if they are giving us an additional $100 per stateroom for this? What is a "technical stop"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzCanuck Posted November 9, 2019 #13 Share Posted November 9, 2019 40 minutes ago, The Wanderer_112358 said: What is a "technical stop"? Nobody gets off. Officials come aboard by boat to get some papers stamped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugtech Posted November 10, 2019 #14 Share Posted November 10, 2019 7 hours ago, The Wanderer_112358 said: What is a "technical stop"? A way to charge you a port fee without being allowed to use the port. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted November 10, 2019 #15 Share Posted November 10, 2019 On 11/9/2019 at 1:16 AM, The Wanderer_112358 said: Obviously from what I read, the engine is not repairable in the ship. The whole engine will have to be replaced. So, where can that be done? How long would that take? Could the ship continue on a transatlantic voyage with one dead engine? Are current passengers being removed and sent home? Where are you reading that the engine is not repairable on the ship? Unless the engine has completely exploded and sent a connecting rod out the side (and even then I've had onboard repairs done), everything can be repaired onboard. In the "Star misses Dubrovnik" thread are my comments about engine overhauls and the likely scenario that happened. Yes, the ship could to a TA without one diesel engine, as she has four, and very likely has been sailing for weeks with only 3 operable, if one was down for scheduled overhaul. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted November 10, 2019 #16 Share Posted November 10, 2019 18 hours ago, The Wanderer_112358 said: What is a "technical stop"? 18 hours ago, OzCanuck said: Nobody gets off. Officials come aboard by boat to get some papers stamped. A "technical" stop is one that is required to meet various cabotage laws regarding cruises. In this case, it is to meet the requirement to have a port call outside the EU to keep from having to charge VAT for all onboard purchases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustaOreo Posted November 10, 2019 #17 Share Posted November 10, 2019 1 hour ago, chengkp75 said: Where are you reading that the engine is not repairable on the ship? Unless the engine has completely exploded and sent a connecting rod out the side (and even then I've had onboard repairs done), everything can be repaired onboard. In the "Star misses Dubrovnik" thread are my comments about engine overhauls and the likely scenario that happened. Yes, the ship could to a TA without one diesel engine, as she has four, and very likely has been sailing for weeks with only 3 operable, if one was down for scheduled overhaul. Points of clarification. NCL Star has 4 generators and 2 Azipod 'engines'....3 bow thrusters. Truth is we really don't know where the specific....if just one...problem is/are. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted November 10, 2019 #18 Share Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, JustaOreo said: Points of clarification. NCL Star has 4 generators and 2 Azipod 'engines'....3 bow thrusters. Truth is we really don't know where the specific....if just one...problem is/are. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Star Completely aware of the Star's configuration, but it has 4 diesel engines driving generators, and two Azipod motors (electric), as well as the 3 thruster motors. In the maritime world there is a major difference between "engine" and "motor". And, someone onboard, who is posting on the other thread, has stated the problem is with one of the diesel engines. Edited November 10, 2019 by chengkp75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustaOreo Posted November 10, 2019 #19 Share Posted November 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, chengkp75 said: Completely aware of the Star's configuration, but it has 4 diesel engines driving generators, and two Azipod motors (electric), as well as the 3 thruster motors. In the maritime world there is a major difference between "engine" and "motor". And, someone onboard, who is posting on the other thread, has stated the problem is with one of the diesel engines. Mea Culpa......no slight intended. Just trying to say for those of us not fully versed on the technical naval lingo.....until/unless NCL ever says what the issue is/was..........all we can do is speculate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted November 10, 2019 #20 Share Posted November 10, 2019 1 hour ago, JustaOreo said: Mea Culpa......no slight intended. Just trying to say for those of us not fully versed on the technical naval lingo.....until/unless NCL ever says what the issue is/was..........all we can do is speculate. No worries. It just gets me when folks lump things together as "propulsion problems" that may or may not be, and thinking that engines drive the propellers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wanderer_112358 Posted November 10, 2019 Author #21 Share Posted November 10, 2019 6 hours ago, chengkp75 said: Unless the engine has completely exploded and sent a connecting rod out the side (and even then I've had onboard repairs done), everything can be repaired onboard. In the "Star misses Dubrovnik" thread are my comments about engine overhauls and the likely scenario that happened. Yes, the ship could to a TA without one diesel engine, as she has four, and very likely has been sailing for weeks with only 3 operable, if one was down for scheduled overhaul. Thank you for all of your great knowledge and info. I feel much better now that my cruise from Barcelona will probably sail as scheduled. We may miss a port of call or two, but I am ok with that. I leave for Spain in 7 days. I can't wait! Thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobrunner Posted November 10, 2019 #22 Share Posted November 10, 2019 I guess by the time March comes around all engine issue will be solved. Sailing from Florida. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wanderer_112358 Posted November 10, 2019 Author #23 Share Posted November 10, 2019 23 minutes ago, Bobrunner said: I guess by the time March comes around all engine issue will be solved. Sailing from Florida. Ships are complex systems... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallux Posted November 10, 2019 #24 Share Posted November 10, 2019 34 minutes ago, Bobrunner said: I guess by the time March comes around all engine issue will be solved. Sailing from Florida. Tell that to the folks over at Princess. They had a ship sailing with propulsion issues for 18 months because they actually DID have to cut a hole in the side of the ship to effect repairs... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreestyleNovice Posted September 3, 2020 #25 Share Posted September 3, 2020 A bit of a kick but here's the Star's engine removal, this July during dry dock in the port of Rotterdam, The Netherlands, Europe. Came across but not worth an entire new thread I guess. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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