MrRandal Posted April 22, 2020 #101 Share Posted April 22, 2020 4 hours ago, resistk said: My payment was to the US LLC but it says French law applies HOWEVER they do not state which French laws. I do not think this would be considered valid in the United States. Ponant has been sued over this before in the USA. https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/14883202/1/jones-v-ponant-usa-llc/ One thing is obvious, at least to me, Ponant will fight us to keep our money. Wow, $355,000 in airfare, and I thought Business Class on ATN was too expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonikal Posted April 24, 2020 #102 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Norway's shipyards must be functioning since Le Bellot has moved from Soviknes, Alesund to the Vard Langsten ship yard in Tomra. Hopeful sign, perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare AussieBoyTX Posted April 24, 2020 #103 Share Posted April 24, 2020 1 hour ago, jonikal said: Norway's shipyards must be functioning since Le Bellot has moved from Soviknes, Alesund to the Vard Langsten ship yard in Tomra. Hopeful sign, perhaps? We can hope. Vard's Norwegian page says they are open and have taken certain precautions.https://www.vard.com/newsandmedia/news/Pages/Information-from-VARD-regarding-COVID-19-in-Norwegian.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare AussieBoyTX Posted April 24, 2020 #104 Share Posted April 24, 2020 (edited) Le Champlain & Le Dumont d'Urville docked at Saint-Malo, France this morning. I'm sure there are pictures somewhere (but I haven't found them yet). Le Bougainville is still in Seychelles. The first cruse still scheduled is Le Lyrial from Athens to Venice on May 22 -- less than thirty days away. Ponant haven't updated their cancellation page, but I notice that the first cruise on Le Bougainville now departs on June 1. Edited April 24, 2020 by AussieBoyTX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare AussieBoyTX Posted April 24, 2020 #105 Share Posted April 24, 2020 On 4/8/2020 at 1:26 PM, Host Jazzbeau said: The ships that are docked or anchored have at least skeleton engineering crews to keep everything in working order. I don't know if that crew level is sufficient to sail. If so, any of these ships could deadhead quickly to the next embarkation point and the rest of the crew could meet them there. [Assuming that if passengers can get there, so can crew.] A small bit of information here. Le Champlain & Le Dumont d'Urville landed at Saint-Malo with Nineteen French sailors and fifty-two foreign sailors in total. I'm guessing a skeleton crew needed to sail is well below thirty sailors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare AussieBoyTX Posted April 27, 2020 #106 Share Posted April 27, 2020 (edited) Le Lapérouse has been chartered to repatriate 300 Wallis & Futuna residents from New Caledonia. It will be over two sailings.The ship will apparently be at sea for fourteen days instead of the five required for the transit to help ensure there are no active COVID-19 cases on board. In French: Covid-19: Wallis and Futuna open up to the rest of the world with a "floating fortnight" Separate articles note the ship's last docking was March 17 in New Zealand. The crew are therefore presumed to be virus-free. They have not been permitted to disembark in New Caledonia. In French: Containment: the luxury cruise yacht returns to Noumea Edited April 27, 2020 by AussieBoyTX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Host Jazzbeau Posted April 27, 2020 #107 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Interesting articles. A creative approach in combining the voyage and the quarantine. Also of interest [to me] is that Le Laperouse is consistently referred to as 'he' in both articles. I had been told that although many French ships are named after males and therefore have names beginning with "Le," they were nevertheless referred to as feminine in the third person singular. Not so here: always "il" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frncie Posted April 28, 2020 #108 Share Posted April 28, 2020 6 hours ago, Host Jazzbeau said: 6 hours ago, Host Jazzbeau said: Also of interest [to me] is that Le Laperouse is consistently referred to as 'he' in both articles. I had been told that although many French ships are named after males and therefore have names beginning with "Le," they were nevertheless referred to as feminine in the third person singular. Not so here: always "il" Same with Le Bougainville. Also Le Reine Elizabeth, the Fairmont hotel in Montreal. No clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bamboo99 Posted April 28, 2020 #109 Share Posted April 28, 2020 In French ships are always male, i.e. LE France, LE Normandie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jland Posted April 28, 2020 #110 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Could we please stay on topic. The quirks of language has nothing to do with cruising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Host Jazzbeau Posted April 28, 2020 #111 Share Posted April 28, 2020 9 hours ago, jland said: Could we please stay on topic. The quirks of language has nothing to do with cruising. This thread has already drifted – from an announcement of Ponant's suspension of cruising to lots of talk about refunds [for which there is already another thread]. That's what happens on cruise critic, and since there is no cruising at the moment to talk about, it has been happening even more than usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullaRaffaello Posted April 28, 2020 #112 Share Posted April 28, 2020 On 4/27/2020 at 4:04 PM, Host Jazzbeau said: Interesting articles. A creative approach in combining the voyage and the quarantine. Also of interest [to me] is that Le Laperouse is consistently referred to as 'he' in both articles. I had been told that although many French ships are named after males and therefore have names beginning with "Le," they were nevertheless referred to as feminine in the third person singular. Not so here: always "il" The two words in French that translate into English as ship are both masculine. Le navire and le pacquebot. Therefore the pronoun il. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare AussieBoyTX Posted April 29, 2020 #113 Share Posted April 29, 2020 The headline:The nine ships of the only French cruise line are stationary. After having repatriated 1,600 passengers in March, Ponant surveys its customers about their expectations and prepares a protocol to manage the restart of its activity in good sanitary conditions. "Having managed the emergencies, [Ponant] can now work to prepare for the recovery. The first step is to develop a protocol to ensure health safety on board, but also during the transit of passengers on planes, from and to airports, or even during stopovers. “We are working on different scenarios […]. The problem for an actor like Ponant, whose ships are small, is however different from that of other companies [which operate giant liners, note], ”explains Hervé Bellaïche. On ships "on a human scale", it is easier to organize filtering or taking temperature, for example. "These ships, which accommodate between 150 and 200 passengers, could also be an asset for the future, while the coronavirus epidemic has highlighted the danger of being too crowded. Ponant also probes its customers about their desires, or their potential fears. “We are in the reflection and discussion phase. It is a bit early to draw conclusions, but one option could be to offer more local cruises, ”said the manager. The company could also focus on its conference cruises, led by prestigious guests. In French: Coronavirus: stopped, Ponant reflects on the future of its cruises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
directionfinder Posted May 3, 2020 #114 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Does anybody have new informations about the coming Ponant cruises? The last update on canceled cruise they did was 8th of April, no news till now? On their internet page I found today, that all their future cruise even in 2022 are in "fully booked" status. So nothing at all is bookable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare AussieBoyTX Posted May 3, 2020 #115 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Le Soleal is under sail today. Still off the coast of Tahiti, so perhaps not going anywhere and just testing systems... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Purdy Posted May 3, 2020 #116 Share Posted May 3, 2020 1 minute ago, AussieBoyTX said: Le Soleal is under sail today. Still off the coast of Tahiti, so perhaps not going anywhere and just testing systems... Go to the Tahiti Tourism web site and you'll have your answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare AussieBoyTX Posted May 3, 2020 #117 Share Posted May 3, 2020 12 minutes ago, Jared Purdy said: Go to the Tahiti Tourism web site and you'll have your answer. It's not apparent that there's anything new that affects Le Soleal on that site. Link, please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Purdy Posted May 3, 2020 #118 Share Posted May 3, 2020 1 minute ago, AussieBoyTX said: It's not apparent that there's anything new that affects Le Soleal on that site. Link, please? https://tahititourisme.ca/en-ca/ Click on the yellow bar at the top of the page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare AussieBoyTX Posted May 3, 2020 #119 Share Posted May 3, 2020 13 minutes ago, Jared Purdy said: https://tahititourisme.ca/en-ca/ Click on the yellow bar at the top of the page. I see. That's not new & Le Soleal has been docked at Papeete with Paul Gauguin for several weeks now. I thought you had news that they were forced to leave French Polynesia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Purdy Posted May 3, 2020 #120 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Just now, AussieBoyTX said: I see. That's not new & Le Soleal has been docked at Papeete with Paul Gauguin for several weeks now. I thought you had news that they were forced to leave French Polynesia. No, that's not what I was suggesting. I had no idea where those ships were. It makes sense that they're in Tahiti as that is where they sail from. The point it that there aren't any tourists on them, and there won't be until the Tahitian government clears the way. When that is, is anyone's guess. And, they may well restrict people from certain countries that still have a high rate of infection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare AussieBoyTX Posted May 3, 2020 #121 Share Posted May 3, 2020 26 minutes ago, Jared Purdy said: No, that's not what I was suggesting. I had no idea where those ships were. It makes sense that they're in Tahiti as that is where they sail from. The point it that there aren't any tourists on them, and there won't be until the Tahitian government clears the way. When that is, is anyone's guess. And, they may well restrict people from certain countries that still have a high rate of infection. Agree. Le Soleal's supposed next cruise departs from Osaka on May 30. I think that's doubtful, though Japan is one of the new places it's possible to get to from North America & Europe. https://us.ponant.com/asia-an-immersion-in-japanese-culture-s300520-12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Host Jazzbeau Posted May 3, 2020 #122 Share Posted May 3, 2020 8 hours ago, directionfinder said: Does anybody have new informations about the coming Ponant cruises? The last update on canceled cruise they did was 8th of April, no news till now? On their internet page I found today, that all their future cruise even in 2022 are in "fully booked" status. So nothing at all is bookable! Their website was acting very funky yesterday (Saturday May 2). No cruises were showing up. But today it's back to normal. My January 2021 New Zealand cruise is showing great availability, and the newly announced April 2022 Azores cruise is wide open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare AussieBoyTX Posted May 3, 2020 #123 Share Posted May 3, 2020 7 hours ago, AussieBoyTX said: Le Soleal is under sail today. Still off the coast of Tahiti, so perhaps not going anywhere and just testing systems... Video of Le Soleal’s night sailing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare AussieBoyTX Posted May 5, 2020 #124 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Le Bougainville left Seychelles today and is heading southwest on a track to pass north of Madagascar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare AussieBoyTX Posted May 6, 2020 #125 Share Posted May 6, 2020 The document hasn’t been updated, but several cruises are now missing. I noticed Le Laperouse’s first cruise is now June 17 (Darwin Broome). Le Bougainville’s first cruise is June 1 (Valletta - Civitavecchia ). There night be other changes. I didn’t capture the old list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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