wowzz Posted October 26, 2021 #26876 Share Posted October 26, 2021 10 minutes ago, Adawn47 said: Isn't 36.000 enough? Avril Of which over half are under 20 and unvaccinated. The remainder suffer only minor symptoms, if any. Yes, obviously there are those like Harry who have to be vigilant, but there is no need for a constant atmosphere of fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Peterson Posted October 26, 2021 #26877 Share Posted October 26, 2021 15 minutes ago, Adawn47 said: I'd like to correct your post a little if you don't mind Harry. 😉 ''Even a fleeting contact is sufficient'' Why else would the little perisher still be running riot.😷 Avril That’s my concern too, Avril. We keep hearing from friends and family about new infections in people who’ve been extremely careful and can’t work out how they could have contracted it. One’s sadly in ICU. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrierjohn Posted October 26, 2021 #26878 Share Posted October 26, 2021 15 minutes ago, Adawn47 said: I'd like to correct your post a little if you don't mind Harry. 😉 ''Even a fleeting contact is sufficient'' Why else would the little perisher still be running riot.😷 Avril The little perisher has been running rampant in schools now that bubbling, social distancing and face masks are no longer needed, but that is no surprise and in the overwhelming number of cases do not create problems for the children. Similarly the next largest segment are the non vaccinated, which again is not surprising. However the double jabbed are only a small proportion of the positive cases, and serious hospitalization is very low for this group. These statistics certainly make me feel more relaxed about trying to get back to a little more of a normal life than we have had for the last 20 months. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowzz Posted October 26, 2021 #26879 Share Posted October 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, terrierjohn said: The little perisher has been running rampant in schools now that bubbling, social distancing and face masks are no longer needed, but that is no surprise and in the overwhelming number of cases do not create problems for the children. Similarly the next largest segment are the non vaccinated, which again is not surprising. However the double jabbed are only a small proportion of the positive cases, and serious hospitalization is very low for this group. These statistics certainly make me feel more relaxed about trying to get back to a little more of a normal life than we have had for the last 20 months. Thank you for giving a sense of perspective to the current scenario. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermotsgirl Posted October 26, 2021 #26880 Share Posted October 26, 2021 18 months in to a pandemic, and still people don't get it. *shakes head in despair* On a happier note, ahead of my husband's 70th birthday tomorrow, we had afternoon tea at home 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel57 Posted October 26, 2021 #26881 Share Posted October 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Dermotsgirl said: 18 months in to a pandemic, and still people don't get it. *shakes head in despair* On a happier note, ahead of my husband's 70th birthday tomorrow, we had afternoon tea at home Oh that looks yummy. Glass of champagne with it?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermotsgirl Posted October 26, 2021 #26882 Share Posted October 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Angel57 said: Oh that looks yummy. Glass of champagne with it?? No, just copious amounts of tea ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecttr Posted October 26, 2021 #26883 Share Posted October 26, 2021 just conducted some online research > flu viral particle dose as little as 10 > not yet sure about COVID, estimates say about 1000 - UCL > sneeze travels at up to 50 mph > sneeze may contain many millions of COVID particles > 15 mins in a confined space with someone shedding lots of virus and you have a good chance of being infected. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare SarahHben Posted October 26, 2021 #26884 Share Posted October 26, 2021 36 minutes ago, Dermotsgirl said: 18 months in to a pandemic, and still people don't get it. *shakes head in despair* On a happier note, ahead of my husband's 70th birthday tomorrow, we had afternoon tea at home That looks good 😊 Happy Birthday to your husband 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowzz Posted October 26, 2021 #26885 Share Posted October 26, 2021 18 minutes ago, davecttr said: 15 mins in a confined space with someone shedding lots of virus and you have a good chance of being infected. Absolutely, but totally different to passing someone in a shopping aisle ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josy1953 Posted October 26, 2021 #26886 Share Posted October 26, 2021 56 minutes ago, Dermotsgirl said: 18 months in to a pandemic, and still people don't get it. *shakes head in despair* On a happier note, ahead of my husband's 70th birthday tomorrow, we had afternoon tea at home Happy Birthday to your husband tomorrow 🎂 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted October 26, 2021 #26887 Share Posted October 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Dermotsgirl said: 18 months in to a pandemic, and still people don't get it. *shakes head in despair* On a happier note, ahead of my husband's 70th birthday tomorrow, we had afternoon tea at home Sending happy birthday wishes to your husband for tomorrow. It is my birthday tomorrow too. 65🥺😷. Graham. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splice the mainbrace Posted October 26, 2021 #26888 Share Posted October 26, 2021 18 minutes ago, grapau27 said: Sending happy birthday wishes to your husband for tomorrow. It is my birthday tomorrow too. 65🥺😷. Graham. And my birthday .................🎂🥂 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted October 26, 2021 #26889 Share Posted October 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Splice the mainbrace said: And my birthday .................🎂🥂 Sending you happy birthday wishes for tomorrow. Graham. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splice the mainbrace Posted October 26, 2021 #26890 Share Posted October 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, grapau27 said: Sending you happy birthday wishes for tomorrow. Graham. Thanks. Hope you have a good day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peanut006 Posted October 26, 2021 #26891 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Seems to be lots of birthdays tomorrow. Happy Birthday everyone in advance 🎂 Michelle 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted October 26, 2021 #26892 Share Posted October 26, 2021 17 minutes ago, Splice the mainbrace said: Thanks. Hope you have a good day. I hope you have a special day too. Graham. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted October 26, 2021 #26893 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Just now, Peanut006 said: Seems to be lots of birthdays tomorrow. Happy Birthday everyone in advance 🎂 Michelle Thank you Michelle. Graham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecttr Posted October 26, 2021 #26894 Share Posted October 26, 2021 2 hours ago, wowzz said: Absolutely, but totally different to passing someone in a shopping aisle ! > the total dose can be accumulated from many tiny doses, so don't pass lots of people in a shopping isle > apparently only one or two viral particles managing to infect cells and that's it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majortom10 Posted October 26, 2021 #26895 Share Posted October 26, 2021 We are all doomed let's not ever go out close all the shops, again, except for supermarkets but when they deliver food to help us survive dont go anywhere near the delivery driver and place all food in a safe place for 4 hrs and dont touch it. We will then survive but at the end of the day would it be worth surviving. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Peterson Posted October 26, 2021 #26896 Share Posted October 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, majortom10 said: We are all doomed let's not ever go out close all the shops, again, except for supermarkets but when they deliver food to help us survive dont go anywhere near the delivery driver and place all food in a safe place for 4 hrs and dont touch it. We will then survive but at the end of the day would it be worth surviving. Pretty much what some of us are having to do already. 4 hours is very much an understatement, though, and you forgot the bleach and the incoming mail etc. It's not great, but it's perfectly achievable - unfortunately there's still no clear evidence on the routes of transmission or the times necessary for different materials. Lots of different views, but no clear answers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kruzseeka Posted October 26, 2021 #26897 Share Posted October 26, 2021 7 hours ago, Adawn47 said: According to PNAS, small speech droplets stay airborne between 8 - 14 mins. Plenty of time for a good lungful whatever your height😷 Avril And the 36,000 are only the ones who have been tested - what's the real incidence? Those who are non-symptomatic and unaware that they have been in contact with an infected person won't get tested - then some who are ill may not bother to be tested. Our rates shot up from <200 to over 1,000 in a week. Probably outbreaks in schools/Uni but nevertheless there's more infection out there. Granted we all make decisions we are comfortable with, but don't be deceived into thinking the infection isn't prevalent and especially those who are at greater risk need to be aware. Content source: National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases (NCIRD), Division of Viral Diseases People release respiratory fluids during exhalation (e.g., quiet breathing, speaking, singing, exercise, coughing, sneezing) in the form of droplets across a spectrum of sizes.1-9 These droplets carry virus and transmit infection. The largest droplets settle out of the air rapidly, within seconds to minutes. The smallest very fine droplets, and aerosol particles formed when these fine droplets rapidly dry, are small enough that they can remain suspended in the air for minutes to hours. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adawn47 Posted October 26, 2021 #26898 Share Posted October 26, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, kruzseeka said: And the 36,000 are only the ones who have been tested - what's the real incidence? Those who are non-symptomatic and unaware that they have been in contact with an infected person won't get tested - then some who are ill may not bother to be tested. Our rates shot up from <200 to over 1,000 in a week. Probably outbreaks in schools/Uni but nevertheless there's more infection out there. Granted we all make decisions we are comfortable with, but don't be deceived into thinking the infection isn't prevalent and especially those who are at greater risk need to be aware. Content source: National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases (NCIRD), Division of Viral Diseases People release respiratory fluids during exhalation (e.g., quiet breathing, speaking, singing, exercise, coughing, sneezing) in the form of droplets across a spectrum of sizes.1-9 These droplets carry virus and transmit infection. The largest droplets settle out of the air rapidly, within seconds to minutes. The smallest very fine droplets, and aerosol particles formed when these fine droplets rapidly dry, are small enough that they can remain suspended in the air for minutes to hours. At last, a voice of reason. The rates in my area are also rising rapidly . Avril Edited October 26, 2021 by Adawn47 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermotsgirl Posted October 26, 2021 #26899 Share Posted October 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Splice the mainbrace said: And my birthday .................🎂🥂 A good day for birthdays 🎂 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splice the mainbrace Posted October 26, 2021 #26900 Share Posted October 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, Dermotsgirl said: A good day for birthdays 🎂 Looks like it will be the mildest weather that I can remember on my birthday, up to 18c here. I never went to school on my birthday as the 27th October was/is always in the autumn half term holiday, in England anyway. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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