Do you think as many Aussies will make trips overseas?

[By The Bay]

39 minutes ago, possum52 said:

Hanky panky? Sorry I can't stop smiling at the thought of the more elderly passengers (particularly on Princess) hanky panking with the younger singers and dancers (entertainers) whom David mentioned. 😂

 

 

Leigh

Not all people that cruise have one foot in the grave. Many younger single people also cruise. Cruise ships currently ban passengers from entering the crew areas, even if invited.

[possum52]

2 minutes ago, By The Bay said:

Not all people that cruise have one foot in the grave. Many younger single people also cruise. Cruise ships currently ban passengers from entering the crew areas, even if invited.

And it would be up to the crew member to say no if they want to keep their job. If the passenger hassled the crew member they would need to report it.

 

Leigh

[By The Bay]

1 minute ago, possum52 said:

And it would be up to the crew member to say no if they want to keep their job. If the passenger hassled the crew member they would need to report it.

 

Leigh

I am of the opinion that crew and passengers will not share the same decks for sleeping.  I am also of the opinion that inside cabins will be available for passengers to book. Inside cabins bookings are currently available for Carnival brand ships sailing from Australia.

[possum52]

17 minutes ago, By The Bay said:

I am of the opinion that crew and passengers will not share the same decks for sleeping.  I am also of the opinion that inside cabins will be available for passengers to book. Inside cabins bookings are currently available for Carnival brand ships sailing from Australia.

That's fine, you are entitled to your opinion as are others. David commented it already happens on some ships and I'm sure if it didn't work for both crew/staff and passengers, it would have stopped. We have to be fair to the crew and make sure they are looked after as well.

 

I would think (my opinion only) that most cruise lines haven't really thought through how their sailings in the future will pan out. There are so many variables to be worked out before there is any cruising resuming.

 

Leigh

 

[icat2000]

If crew are going to occupy cabins above decks I would hope that they look were possible to put them on one floor. I not really concerned about the hanky panky aspect (as that is an HR issue for the ship to sort out if it occurs and then the cruiseline can ban that passenger for life as well.) more the opening and closing and sometimes slamming doors when staff are starting work and coming home from their shifts. (I know passengers slam doors too).

Edited May 25, 2020 by icat2000

[By The Bay]

1 minute ago, possum52 said:

I would think (my opinion only) that most cruise lines haven't really thought through how their sailings in the future will pan out. There are so many variables to be worked out before there is any cruising resuming.

 

Leigh

 

Totally agree. Too many "Unknown Unknowns". Apologies to Donald Rumsfeld.

[possum52]

1 minute ago, icat2000 said:

If crew are going to occupy cabins above decks I would hope that they look were possible to put them on one floor. I not really concerned about the hanky panky aspect more the opening and closing and sometimes slamming doors when staff are starting work and coming home from their shifts. (I know passengers slam doors too).

I think that is a valid concern but then as you said passengers slam doors too. I would think all of us have had noisy neighbours at times onboard and it can be quite frustrating.

 

Leigh

 

[icat2000]

On 5/22/2020 at 12:26 PM, The_Big_M said:

Read the startup plans of one European cruiseline. Amongst many other changes, mouth and nose coverings will also be required in all public areas (not sure how that will work with dining).

 

Other countries are used to it, but it does make for a less pleasant, relaxation experience to be sure... And I think those photographers will be out of a job.

I'm not cruising under those conditions. Others can. 

[By The Bay]

2 minutes ago, icat2000 said:

If crew are going to occupy cabins above decks I would hope that they look were possible to put them on one floor. I not really concerned about the hanky panky aspect (as that is an HR issue for the ship to sort out if it occurs and then the cruiseline can ban that passenger for life as well.) more the opening and closing and sometimes slamming doors when staff are starting work and coming home from their shifts. (I know passengers slam doors too).

Agree. That is a concern of mine.

[By The Bay]

11 minutes ago, possum52 said:

 David commented it already happens on some ships

Leigh

 

This was David's comment. Idea only, no mention of it already happening.

 

"The idea I heard was that the public would have every second cabin OV and Balcony and the Insides world be used by the crew."

Edited May 25, 2020 by By The Bay

[possum52]

5 minutes ago, By The Bay said:

This was David's comment. Idea only, no mention of it already happening.

 

"The idea I heard was that the public would have every second cabin OV and Balcony and the Insides world be used by the crew."

This was David's post in his reply to you.- 'Perhaps , but I think after all they have been through crew members would dare not break the rules . On some ships  the crew are on the same deck as passengers . Eg entertainment ,shop, casino staff etc . It’s more to give them single accom.  QM2 was built so that most crew had their own room .'

[The_Big_M]

2 hours ago, possum52 said:

This was David's post in his reply to you.- 'Perhaps , but I think after all they have been through crew members would dare not break the rules . On some ships  the crew are on the same deck as passengers . Eg entertainment ,shop, casino staff etc . It’s more to give them single accom.  QM2 was built so that most crew had their own room .'

 

He's right. Without going into detail, it's typical for some cabins to be used by senior officers on public levels, and visiting entertainers are commonly in regular cabins. Crew know the boundaries and know what happens if they break the rules. It's no big deal.

[Peacefulness]

On 5/4/2020 at 7:53 AM, MMDown Under said:

1 million Aussies live permanently abroad.  More than 11 million trips overseas were taken by Aussies in 2019.

ABC News

 

Thinking about future travel, as always.

• What do you think about overseas travel, in the future?
• Do you have a desire to see more of Australia, after the long drought and devastating bushfires and corona virus lockdown?
• Will finances effect your decision, e.g. poorer investment returns, weak Aussie dollar.
• If there is no vaccine, by 2021, will that effect your overseas travel decisions, from 2021?
• Would you travel to NZ as part of NZ/Aus bubble?

• I think many people will travel overseas as soon as the travel bans are lifted. I think many people are still arriving or leaving Australia even though we've had a ban on overseas travel. Have a look at the arrivals schedule for Melbourne Airport for this afternoon below.  These are only a few of the flights arriving today.
• We have two long week-ends booked with flights and accommodation, one this September to Adelaide and one in January to Gold Coast. We've decided to holiday in Australia and spend our money in Australia, so that the Australian economy can benefit from our holiday spending.
• It is great that we don't have really expensive holidays to pay-off this year and next year.
• I doubt that we will ever get a vaccine for this virus, so yes, it'll definitely effect our travel decisions for the future. 
• Not really in any hurry to travel to NZ.

Tania

 

[The_Big_M]

To be fair, a fair few of those are codeshares i.e. not different flights, the same flight under different codes.

[possum52]

1 hour ago, The_Big_M said:

To be fair, a fair few of those are codeshares i.e. not different flights, the same flight under different codes.

Yes 15 of the flights (I think I counted correctly) are really just 3 with code shares.

 

Leigh

[ilikeanswers]

There are also a lot of ghost flights in an attempt to maintain control of the routes. I read that Qatar Airways has increased flights hoping that when international travel resumes they will rule the routes😁. 

[The_Big_M]

Not sure about ruling the routes - at the end of the day if there are good deals with an airline that has been absent people will book them when  services restart. And they're not just going to operate to lose money for the sake of it.

 

However, there are reasons for flights to continue to operate; aside from essential travel and people still getting home, there is also still trade occurring and freight to be moved. Further an aircraft not laid up still needs to be operated for service reasons; like the old days of running a car regularly otherwise the battery would flatten and oil lines freeze, similar but bigger issues happen here. Also, for licensing reasons, flight deck crew need to maintain activity else they will need to be 'retrained' if they haven't - which there isn't the capacity for all in sims. 

 

So there are a few legitimate reasons that flights continue to operate - although at a much lesser extent.