2020 Cruises from NY gone?

[MsTabbyKats]

1 minute ago, Até said:

Those itineraries were still being sold an hour ago, now gone.  Changes currently being made on the US site, but new itineraries not currently listed.

 

https://www.msccruisesusa.com/cruise-itinerary-changes-and-cancellations/2021-new-cruise-itineriaries

Unfortunately for me, it looks like nothing out of NYC.

Oh well....now I give my "$98 Gamble" 60 days to be refunded.

 

This is exactly why I refuse to give Carnival any money now.  Their rates are inflated to adjust for the $600 OBC.  I know those rates will drastically fall after "the rebooking period".

[lovemycruisetoo]

26 minutes ago, MsTabbyKats said:

WHAT!!!!!!

I don't believe it!!!!!!!!

Me either but it was on their website  under Travel Alerts. That’s 3 in a row for us now. 

[Até]

It's back up.

 

https://www.msccruisesusa.com/cruise-itinerary-changes-and-cancellations/select-2021-cancellations

[MsTabbyKats]

Just now, lovemycruisetoo said:

Me either but it was on their website  under Travel Alerts. That’s 3 in a row for us now. 

FYI-The sailings are still showing as available on the website!

 Between MSC and Carnival I'm on 5 cancellations.........

 

One less "stresser" for me:  I canceled the Meraviglia before the official cancellation so I missed out on the 125% FCC.  Since I only sail out of NYC...I wouldn't need it anyway.

 

Living in NYC...where everything is still closed....and now with demonstrations/lack of social distancing which may give us a 2nd covid wave...so who knows when anything will open.....looking forward to this cruise was such a bright spot.  I mean, what could go wrong for Sept 2021????  Oh well, I had happiness for 2 days.

[MrMike45]

Wow, just wow.  

[Até]

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Edited June 4, 2020 by Até

[MsTabbyKats]

3 minutes ago, Até said:

Debating whether Meraviglia will now do NYC runs in Fall 2021.

Why do you think Mera will come back to NY?

 

[Até]

2 minutes ago, MsTabbyKats said:

Why do you think Mera will come back to NY?

 

Had my dates mixed up....

[Até]

At least you don't have to wait until June 19 to claim refunds.  US site says 60 days from request, and to call to request refund.  Which is basically cancelling before final payment.

[MrMike45]

Posted this is the other topic but just in case someone is only looking at this one 

 

Just got off the phone with my Casino rep, the one who booked this cruise for me 2 days ago. He swore to me that he had no idea this was occurring and if he did he wouldn’t have booked me on the cruise. He will extend our casino voucher/discount until December 2021. But according to him and the announcement they received....MSC is not intending to sail out of NYC at all in 2021. 

[sfaaa]

55 minutes ago, MrMike45 said:

. But according to him and the announcement they received....MSC is not intending to sail out of NYC at all in 2021. 

More mystery. I just booked a 2021 cruises from MIA to NY two days ago. The entire ship is suddenly sold out today which seems unlikely. What's going on MSC?

[MrMike45]

It seems like MSC has pulled out of NYC. Could be covid related and they don’t want to risk another outbreak. Could be financial reasons. All speculation. But I am sure your cruise is cancelled as well

[Até]

Divina August 22nd, 2021 cancelled.

 

https://www.msccruisesusa.com/cruise-itinerary-changes-and-cancellations/select-2021-cancellations

[sfaaa]

This is beyond crazy. My 2020 and two 2021 cruises have all been cancelled by MSC within the last few days. What's the point of having FCC with Dec 31, 2021 expiry date if there is no cruise to book?

Edited June 4, 2020 by sfaaa

[Até]

What makes it sadder is the replacement itinerary forecast.  It seems there is going to be a move towards short cruises.

[rkacruiser]

I am not booking anything on any cruise line until my crystal ball becomes clear.  That is not expected to happen for months and months, if then.

[BermudaBound2014]

2 hours ago, Até said:

What makes it sadder is the replacement itinerary forecast.  It seems there is going to be a move towards short cruises.

 

I've read some speculations that short cruises are going to be what sells in 2021 as people ease back into trusting the cruise industry. Pulling out of NYC entirely does not surprise me (what surprises me is that they posted the itineraries to begin with). I suspect places like NYC that were epicenter are going to have more restrictions than Florida. I wish I could say it wasn't political, but I believe politics plays a role in this decision too :(.  I'm not at all optimistic for 2020 departures.

[Até]

46 minutes ago, BermudaBound2014 said:

I've read some speculations that short cruises are going to be what sells in 2021 as people ease back into trusting the cruise industry.

I guess if that is all they offer it's what sells.  I think it's more a case of the cruise lines cover their a$$es so new virus cases are less likely to develop while passengers are still on the ship.  Understandable but unfortunate.

[BermudaBound2014]

4 minutes ago, Até said:

I guess if that is all they offer it's what sells.  I think it's more a case of the cruise lines cover their a$$es so new virus cases are less likely to develop while passengers are still on the ship.  Understandable but unfortunate.

 

I'm a little bit hopeful with MSC right now. They have a gold mine by offering overnight visits to Ocean Cay. Short 3-4 nighters which only visit Ocean cay and offer an overnight would SELL SELL SELL. I've read other lines are contemplating something similar with their private islands also.

Edited June 5, 2020 by BermudaBound2014

[Até]

I've never made it to Ocean Cay, they cancelled it on me three times now (plus on a few sailings before I booked).  I really don't care that much and don't think an overnight there poses any additional draw.  If I book anything in the next year it will probably be for the ship and thus in YC, and only if prices were reasonable.  Did you see Bret's & my comment about port fees?

[Carolina Girl 99]

I'm totally bummed regarding the October 2020 Meraviglia cancellations, I jumped the gun I'm afraid.

We had booked two 12+ days cruises for Oct 2020 knowing we would cancel one. After family discussions over Memorial Day weekend, it was decided we would keep our NCL booking and cancel MSC based solely on ports. I called my TA to cancel on May 25th. Then MSC announced the cancellations with the 100 + 25% FCC, so if we had just waited another week or so we could have taken advantage of the FCC or moved the deposit to another date (plan on re-booking Meraviglia for May 2021). Instead it looks like I won't get anything extra and I still have to wait the 60 days for my deposit to be refunded

[MrMike45]

2 hours ago, Carolina Girl 99 said:

I'm totally bummed regarding the October 2020 Meraviglia cancellations, I jumped the gun I'm afraid.

We had booked two 12+ days cruises for Oct 2020 knowing we would cancel one. After family discussions over Memorial Day weekend, it was decided we would keep our NCL booking and cancel MSC based solely on ports. I called my TA to cancel on May 25th. Then MSC announced the cancellations with the 100 + 25% FCC, so if we had just waited another week or so we could have taken advantage of the FCC or moved the deposit to another date (plan on re-booking Meraviglia for May 2021). Instead it looks like I won't get anything extra and I still have to wait the 60 days for my deposit to be refunded

I did the same thing but I’m looking at it from the other point of view. I’m so glad I requested a refund. 
 

What good is FCC at this point? It’s a future credit for booking a cruise that literally, NO ONE IN THE WORLD, knows when it might happen. Every time the cruise lines think they might be starting up...they push back the date. Every state that reopens and begins getting back to normalcy...sees a surge in cases. Every expert out there is predicting a huge second wave come fall/winter.  
 

So yes, I lost out on an extra 25%. But if you look at 2021 cruises on all lines, the prices are more expensive than the 2020 similar ones. Why, because raising the prices nullify that 25%. 
 

I’d much rather have my money in hand (assuming I get it in 60 days) and then book once I see a ship with 3000 people sailing regularly. 

[BermudaBound2014]

@MrMike45 For those that can book last minute, I think there is light at the end of the tunnel. I fully expect  last minute dirt cheap cruising will be had once ships start sailing. 

[MrMike45]

1 minute ago, BermudaBound2014 said:

@MrMike45 For those that can book last minute, I think there is light at the end of the tunnel. I fully expect  last minute dirt cheap cruising will be had once ships start sailing. 

agreed yes. But FCC is typically for people booked months in advance whose cruise was cancelled. Booking and paying in full...once cruises have sailed....definitely the smart move imo 

[BermudaBound2014]

7 minutes ago, MrMike45 said:

agreed yes. But FCC is typically for people booked months in advance whose cruise was cancelled. Booking and paying in full...once cruises have sailed....definitely the smart move imo 

 

I agree. I would never accept a FCC from any cruise line. There are going to be lots of stipulations placed on those FCC's and I'm a proponent of having control over my finances. I asked for my refund back in cash (still waiting, although making progress) and will use that cash to pick up something last minute once the Girls get back in motion. I don't expect it will be soon 😞