WeMissSeaView Posted October 6, 2021 #251 Share Posted October 6, 2021 2 hours ago, coaster said: Give Royal credit sending the Sovereign and Monarch to Turkey instead of India for scrapping. They got less scrap value, but the safety and environmental standards are much higher in Aliaga Turkey than Alang India. Alang is known to use child labor to dismantle ships. They were not Royal ships when they were scrapped. They were with Pullmantur Cruises that Royal owned an interest in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeMissSeaView Posted October 6, 2021 #252 Share Posted October 6, 2021 2 hours ago, coaster said: Majesty was also saved for now. Still laid up but bought by Seajets renamed the ship Majesty of the Oceans. The company that owns Majesty also owns a few other OLD cruise ships. All of those ships are in cold storage in Greece with the transponders turned off. Do not be surprised if those ships are sold for scrap sometime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare A&L_Ont Posted October 6, 2021 #253 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Here is a video of the funnel coming down. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coaster Posted October 6, 2021 #254 Share Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, WeMissSeaView said: They were not Royal ships when they were scrapped. They were with Pullmantur Cruises that Royal owned an interest in. Royal and Pullmantur were the same really. Empress came back from Pullmantur to Royal for the purpose of going on cruises to Cuba. Royal spent big bucks to get Empress back to Royal standards as she was neglected under Pullmantur. 5O million as I recall as they had to rebuild all of her galleys. Pullmantur was created as a way for Royal to unload their older Royal and Celebrity ships (Zenith and Horizon) to a line they had ownership in. I look at them as the same. Edited October 6, 2021 by coaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare A&L_Ont Posted October 6, 2021 #255 Share Posted October 6, 2021 On 10/4/2021 at 2:52 PM, Sea Dog said: Thanks for posting. The video is shot beautifully but it's so sad. Interesting channel with some of their other videos. I figured that you of all would love the effort put into their videos. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coaster Posted October 6, 2021 #256 Share Posted October 6, 2021 26 minutes ago, WeMissSeaView said: The company that owns Majesty also owns a few other OLD cruise ships. All of those ships are in cold storage in Greece with the transponders turned off. Do not be surprised if those ships are sold for scrap sometime soon. Not surprised if Majesty ends up being scrapped. Hopefully she will hang on and have a future life to those of us who don't need indoor malls and multiple extra fee restaurants on cruise ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeMissSeaView Posted October 6, 2021 #257 Share Posted October 6, 2021 4 hours ago, coaster said: Royal and Pullmantur were the same really. Empress came back from Pullmantur to Royal for the purpose of going on cruises to Cuba. Royal spent big bucks to get Empress back to Royal standards as she was neglected under Pullmantur. 5O million as I recall as they had to rebuild all of her galleys. Pullmantur was created as a way for Royal to unload their older Royal and Celebrity ships (Zenith and Horizon) to a line they had ownership in. I look at them as the same. Based on your explanation, they can not be looked at as the same. Royal ships are 100% controlled and maintained by Royal. Even though Royal had a stake in Pullmantur, Pullmantur controlled and maintained the ships sailing for Pullmantur. That is why Empress was in such bad shape when she went back from Pullmantur to Royal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted November 15, 2021 #258 Share Posted November 15, 2021 On 10/5/2021 at 8:17 PM, A&L_Ont said: Here is a video of the funnel coming down. Only a bit left. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted January 12, 2022 #259 Share Posted January 12, 2022 (edited) While this thread is mainly about the sad departure of what has been, there's also the issue of what happens at the front end of the process: Just hours after MV Werften filed for insolvency, Lloyd Werft Bremerhaven — likewise controlled by Genting Hong Kong — took the same step. Bremerhaven District Court confirmed this Monday afternoon. Per Hendrik Heerma was appointed insolvency administrator; he has experience from the same role for Elsflether Werft. Lloyd Werft's future is unclear but leaves room for hope as sales negotiations for the yard were underway even before the filing, and several parties are reported to be interested in an acquisition. Genting took control in 2016 In 2015/16, Lloyd Werft, which dates back to 1857, became Genting's venture into Germany's shipbuilding industry. The company paid €17.5m in September 2015 to acquire a majority stake before taking full control in January 2016 then two months later acquired the Mecklenburg-Vorpommern shipyards which later became MV Werften. Lloyd Werft's fortunes have been very mixed since the takeover. Initially, Genting's plan to develop the yard as a specialist in prototypes as well as conversions and repairs sparked hope. In summer 2016 it was also stated that Lloyd Werft could serve as a back-up to support MV Werften's ambitious newbuilding program. In early 2017, however, it was announced that Lloyd's approximately 400-strong workforce would be reduced by 117 and €12m was paid into a severance package. Luxury yachts, cruise refurbishments After this restructuring Lloyd Werft focussed increasingly on building luxury yachts, but it also won quite a number of contracts for regular docking as well as upgrades and interior conversions of cruise vessels. Last February it became known Lloyd Werft was for sale or would be closed by the end of the year, Genting having expressed the desire to concentrate its activities in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern. Last autumn it was decided to shutter the yard by the end of March 2022 if a buyer was not found. Bremerhaven-based Heinrich Rönner Gruppe has been among the interested parties but Seatrade Cruise News understands Rönner regarded the asking price as too high. It was also rumoured that foreign interests have already signed a letter of intent to acquire a 50% stake. Lloyd Werft has about 300 employees today. Insolvency could ease the way for a sale The insolvency proceedings could actually help force a sale, probably at a lower price than asked by Genting so far. A local source told Seatrade Cruise News Rönner Group might still be interested, adding that after the experiences with Genting at Bremerhaven and in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, most workers would prefer going to a German owner than a foreign investor. Heinrich Rönner Gruppe is a German family-controlled venture, believed financially sound and with a good reputation. The group comprises more than 20 subsidiaries and production facilities with some 1,400 workers, including about 200 trainees. About 500 jobs account for activities in the Bremen federal state. Recently Rönner expanded by acquiring the steel manufacturing division of Rendsburg-based Nobiskrug Werft, another German shipyard which had filed for insolvency. The 27 staff working in the acquired division were retained. German shipbuilding in restructuring The insolvency filings for MV Werften and Lloyd Werft sent shockwaves through Germany's maritime sector on Monday, although they weren't entirely unexpected and Lloyd Werft's insolvency has to be seen in the context of MV Werften's filing. Nevertheless, Germany's shipbuilding industry is getting thinner by the day: Only last summer Hamburg-based Pella Sietas, one of the world's oldest shipbuilding ventures, filed for insolvency. The yard's fate is yet to be decided, but a future in shipbuilding there appears ever more unlikely. Most workers have been let go. The insolvent Elsflether Werft was initially sold to Lürssen in 2019 but closed just a year later. Nobiskrug GmbH, likewise insolvent, was acquired by Flensburger Schiffbau-Gesellschaft last year. That yard is today controlled by a company owned by the German investor Lars Windhorst – who, in turn, rescued Flensburger from the brink of insolvency in 2019. With today's filings, it appears the consolidation of Germany's shipbuilding sector is far from over. Genting-owned Lloyd Werft also files for insolvency (seatrade-cruise.com) Edited January 12, 2022 by Biker19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted January 17, 2022 #260 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Somewhat related from Facebook - (1) Atomic Aerials | Facebook Former aircraft carrier USS Kitty Hawk, drifting through the fog like a ghost ship, departing Bremerton for the last time today. Launched in 1960, she served for 49 years before being decommissioned and joining the reserve fleet of inactive vessels at Puget Sound Naval Yard. The last carrier of her class to be decommissioned, her fate is to be towed to Brownsville, Texas by Foss Maritime Company for scrapping. She became the sole responsibility of the scrapping company as soon as she left the naval yard. As her beam is too wide for the Panama Canal, Foss has the duty of taking her clear down to the tip of South America, through the Strait of Magellan, and back up to the Gulf Coast. This trip will take at least 129 days, cover more than 16,000 miles, and take three separate crews, changed out in Valparaiso and Trinidad. Her towed speed will be somewhere between 5 and 8 knots, depending on weather. If you look closely in a few of the photos you will see her four propellers have been removed and are sitting at the rear end of the flight deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Oceansaway17 Posted January 17, 2022 #261 Share Posted January 17, 2022 oh thanks for sharing. wow a long trip around tip of S America for such a famous carrier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted March 17, 2022 #262 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) Carnival Imagination Edited March 17, 2022 by Biker19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted March 17, 2022 #263 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) Carnival Sensation is also due at Aliaga in about three weeks. Edited March 17, 2022 by Biker19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted March 17, 2022 #264 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Former Carnival Fascination at Gadani, Pakistan: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MamadawgFL Posted March 18, 2022 #265 Share Posted March 18, 2022 was on the monarch and the fantasy ...so sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mac_tlc Posted March 18, 2022 #266 Share Posted March 18, 2022 15 hours ago, Biker19 said: Carnival Imagination Our first cruise was on her , February 2000. 😞. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRF Posted March 18, 2022 #267 Share Posted March 18, 2022 On 1/17/2022 at 5:23 PM, Oceansaway17 said: oh thanks for sharing. wow a long trip around tip of S America for such a famous carrier. For movements like this, I wonder if the ship will make it, or will sink and the owners get a nice insurance payout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lane Hog Posted March 19, 2022 #268 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Who crews the last trip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeMissSeaView Posted April 4, 2022 #269 Share Posted April 4, 2022 The transponder on the Majesty of the Seas has been turned back on. She is still in Greece, but she has been moved to a dock near Athens. Wonder is the Majesty will be put back in service or if all the valuable items are being removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted April 4, 2022 #270 Share Posted April 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, WeMissSeaView said: Wonder if the Majesty will be put back in service or if all the valuable items are being removed. Carnival Sensation just arrived at Aliaga (to be beached soon) - it's kinda crowded there now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted April 16, 2022 #271 Share Posted April 16, 2022 While a total of nine cruise ships were scrapped in 2021, six cruise ships have already been beached during the first four months of 2022 for recycling purposes. As the pandemic still shows its effects on the industry, the vessels were sent to two scrapyards, which are now performing the dismantling processes in order to repurpose and sell off building materials, fixtures and technical parts. Here are the six ships that have exited the market: Fuji (ex-Fuji Maru) Capacity: 326 Tonnage: 23,235 Year Built: 1989 Last Operator: Mitsui O.S.K. Passenger Line Beaching Date: January 2022 Breaking Yard: Gadani, Pakistan After several years out of service, the former Fuji Maru was finally beached in 2022. Previously operated by Mitsui O.S.K. Passenger Line, a Japanese cruise operator, the vessel arrived at the Gadani Shipbreaking Yard in January. Century Harmony (ex-Carnival Fascination) Capacity: 2,040 Tonnage: 70,367 Year Built: 1994 Last Operator: Century Harmony Cruises (never entered service) Beaching Date: February 2022 Breaking Yard: Gadani, Pakistan The former Carnival Fascination was beached for scrapping in February, more than a year after being sold off by Carnival Cruise Line. Initially set for a new life in Asia, the Fantasy-class vessel was prepared for its new role during a drydock in China, but never entered service for its new owners. Oriental Dragon (ex-Sun Viking) Capacity: 882 Tonnage: 18,455 Year Built: 1972 Last Operator: Metropolis Cruise Co Beaching Date: February 2022 Breaking Yard: Gadani, Pakistan As the last surviving sister of Royal Caribbean’s original trio of ships, the former Sun Viking was beached for scrapping in February. Most recently serving as a casino ship in Asia, the 1972-built vessel enjoyed a long career with service for several operators – including Star Cruises and Hyundai. Carnival Sensation Capacity: 2,040 Tonnage: 70,367 Year Built: 1993 Last Operator: Carnival Cruise Line Beaching Date: April 2022 Breaking Yard: Aliaga, Turkey After being retired by Carnival Cruise Line in February, the Carnival Sensation sailed directly to a breaking yard in Aliaga, Turkey. The ship was then beached in early April, joining other three Fantasy-class vessels that were dismantled at the same scrapyard – the Carnival Fantasy, the Carnival Inspiration and the Carnival Imagination. Delphin Capacity: 470 Tonnage: 16,214 Year Built: 1975 Last Operator: Passat Kreuzfahrten Beaching Date: TBD Breaking Yard: Aliaga, Turkey A former soviet cruiseferry, the Delphin has been reportedly sold for scrapping in March, as a result of an auction to settle debts of its former owners. Laid-up in Croatia since 2015, the 1975-built vessel is expected to be beached in Turkey soon, ending a cruising career that included service for various German operators. Over and Out: Six Cruise Ships Scrapped So Far in 2022 - Cruise Industry News 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfguyxxx Posted April 17, 2022 #272 Share Posted April 17, 2022 RIP 😪 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted May 12, 2022 #273 Share Posted May 12, 2022 (edited) Gadani Ship Breaking Yard Carnival Harmony Antares Experience 📷 Humair Sheikha Edited May 12, 2022 by Biker19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted May 29, 2022 #274 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Carnival Sensation 📷 Selim San Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted June 21, 2022 #275 Share Posted June 21, 2022 The former #BlackWatch from Fred. Olsen Cruise Lines has arrived at her final resting place. The ship was beached at the Alang Ship Breaking Yard in India to be recycled. Black Watch was built in 1972 as Royal Viking Star for Royal Viking Line. In 1981 the ship was lengthened by around 20 metres, increasing her passenger capacity by around 200 guests. In 1991, Norwegian Cruise Line acquired the ship and renamed her Westward. In 1994, she was sold to Royal Cruise Line, renamed Star Odyssey. The ship was then acquired by Fred. Olsen Cruise Line in 1996, renaming her Black Watch. The ship was sold off in 2020 to become workers' accommodation, and finally beached as Odin for scrapping in 2022. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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