Poverty thread FCC

[Trimone]

Who believes that all FFC should be refunded if NCL doesn’t sail this year.

 

[alysonofagun]

Would be nice but can't see it happening sadly!

[jskinsd]

3 hours ago, Trimone said:

Who believes that all FFC should be refunded if NCL doesn’t sail this year.

 

Should have taken the money in the first place.  How does that 125% FCC look now?  NCL gave you all the option and most of you took the bait.   You all got the free money you were looking for inconvenience thinking that cruising will be back to normal soon.  

Who could have though that prices may rise when cruising starts again. 

[Waverunner1]

I smell a class action suit!

[Love my butler]

1 hour ago, jskinsd said:

Should have taken the money in the first place.  How does that 125% FCC look now?  NCL gave you all the option and most of you took the bait.   You all got the free money you were looking for inconvenience thinking that cruising will be back to normal soon.  

Who could have though that prices may rise when cruising starts again. 

Exactly right Jeff.   You can't squeeze blood from a turnip at this point.

[TSUmom]

Unfortunately I took my FCC's early on thinking this Covid thing would pass quickly.  Now I can only keep moving them to new cruises.  The first canceled was an Alaska Cruise tour in a suite so I keep moving the FCC's as you all may know that was quite a bit of $$.  I have an August cruise (2021) and also a March 2022 booked now. 

[SpainAlien]

6 hours ago, Trimone said:

Who believes that all FFC should be refunded if NCL doesn’t sail this year.

 

Honestly, if they don't sail all year I doubt anyone will get any money back and the FCCs will be worthless.

[BoozinCroozin]

That won't happen. The FCC was a binding contract agreement with no reference to refunds. Companies are not in business to be too nice. The fact is an FCC is like a gift card. There are certain percentage that never get used or lost. Others are used for items that are greater than the FCC. A small percentage are used on items below the amount. 

 

My opinion for anyone on a canceled cruise is to take the refund. The FCC would rarely be in your favor. With that said, we have a $150 deposit on another cruise that we would take an FCC on. We already have another cruise booked it will roll to and add OBC.

[Capitan Obvious]

2 hours ago, BoozinCroozin said:

That won't happen. The FCC was a binding contract agreement with no reference to refunds. Companies are not in business to be too nice. The fact is an FCC is like a gift card. There are certain percentage that never get used or lost. Others are used for items that are greater than the FCC. A small percentage are used on items below the amount. 

 

My opinion for anyone on a canceled cruise is to take the refund. The FCC would rarely be in your favor. With that said, we have a $150 deposit on another cruise that we would take an FCC on. We already have another cruise booked it will roll to and add OBC.

 

Nice advice, but it is really moot. NCL is no longer giving FCCs for cancelled cruises. Everyone gets a refund back to the form of payment (whether cash or an FCC from a previous cancellation). Getting a new FCC is no longer an option.

[DCGuy64]

Nah, we don't want the money, I'd rather have FCC. To me, just having a booking keeps me believing that cruising will eventually return. I'm not ready to give that up.

[casofilia]

What would happen with a 75% discount voucher that had been used on a cruise already booked for the end of 2022?

[scottsvb]

This is why you Don't Book a vacation more than 2 months out. Things happen in life. Many times great deals happen within a month of cruising also but yes many need to let their work know they will be taking a week-10 days off. Still Max 2 months is enough time.

[DCGuy64]

31 minutes ago, scottsvb said:

This is why you Don't Book a vacation more than 2 months out. Things happen in life. Many times great deals happen within a month of cruising also but yes many need to let their work know they will be taking a week-10 days off. Still Max 2 months is enough time.

I take it you're extremely wealthy? My wife has back issues so, especially on long journeys like to Europe, she has to have Business class seats. Do you know how much you pay for Business class if you wait until only 2 months beforehand? I have to ask off from work and if I don't get permission, I don't travel. Waiting until only 2 months before to plan means I risk having someone else get permission to take vacation and I get a big fat "no" from the boss. 2 months might be enough for you, but not for me, by a LONG shot.

[sfaaa]

3 hours ago, Capitan Obvious said:

 

Nice advice, but it is really moot. NCL is no longer giving FCCs for cancelled cruises. Everyone gets a refund back to the form of payment (whether cash or an FCC from a previous cancellation). Getting a new FCC is no longer an option.

10% discount credit is all you get now.

[alysonofagun]

15 hours ago, scottsvb said:

This is why you Don't Book a vacation more than 2 months out. Things happen in life. Many times great deals happen within a month of cruising also but yes many need to let their work know they will be taking a week-10 days off. Still Max 2 months is enough time.

 

Yes 2 months is plenty for some, but others choose to book in advance for many reasons and there's nothing wrong with that if it suits them! 

 

 

[Trimone]

34 minutes ago, alysonofagun said:

 

Yes 2 months is plenty for some, but others choose to book in advance for many reasons and there's nothing wrong with that if it suits them! 

 

 

Alyson, you are in the U.K. I would do a credit card chargeback with the view you haven’t received your goods and unable to use your FCC in a suitable time, that’s what section 75 credit consumer act is for?

[myk249]

On 3/2/2021 at 2:09 AM, Trimone said:

Who believes that all FFC should be refunded if NCL doesn’t sail this year.

 

Me

[Capitan Obvious]

On 3/2/2021 at 2:09 AM, Trimone said:

Who believes that all FFC should be refunded if NCL doesn’t sail this year.

 

 

How nice it would be if we could alter the terms of an agreement after the fact when it benefits us.

 

Just wondering if you'd be supportive of NCL also having that power?

[Trimone]

7 minutes ago, Capitan Obvious said:

 

How nice it would be if we could alter the terms of an agreement after the fact when it benefits us.

 

Just wondering if you'd be supportive of NCL also having that power?

You mean like all tours are escorted and you can’t wonder off? Don’t remember that when I booked my holiday, so things have changed...

[Capitan Obvious]

7 hours ago, Trimone said:

You mean like all tours are escorted and you can’t wonder off? Don’t remember that when I booked my holiday, so things have changed...

 

No...that is a government requirement imposed for the cruise to even operate. And you don't HAVE to take an excursion.

 

I mean, for example, if NCL came back and said "For everyone with a 125% FCC, you can only use 25% if that FCC toward any one cruise", so you would have to book 5 cruises to use it all. I mean like that.

 

Besides, NOTHING has changed with the FCC. You still have it, and NCL will still honor it once they are permitted to cruise again.

 

Sheesh, why not just say "Who believes that everyone with an FCC should get four free cruises?". (This is why mob rule isn't used for decision making).

[BirdTravels]

To maximize the viability of the cruise line, they should not refund FCCs accepted by customers. Then, there is a high probability of the rest of us to go cruising long into the future. 

[Trimone]

There’s a high probability that cruise companies won’t be sailing until this time next year! So tell me what happens to your shares and FCC if NCL go for section 11? 

[BirdTravels]

Chapter 11 is a reorganization where current reservations are honored as booked. Many airlines have gone bankrupt without an impact to the traveling public. 

[drew69]

On 3/2/2021 at 2:09 AM, Trimone said:

Who believes that all FFC should be refunded if NCL doesn’t sail this year.

 

People who took the FCCs instead of a refund made a decision.  They thought the cruises would resume but that was never guaranteed.  They could have taken the refund but did not.  Now they need to live with their decision such as it is.

[Shidah]

I took the FCC and am still happy about it.  I got a great deal on my cruise booked in September.  If I had taken the money back, I would have spent it on something dumb and now have nothing.  Instead, the FCC was a great downpayment on this years cruise.  Now just crossing fingers it actually goes.  I don’t care about wearing masks, I wear one 10 hours a day at work.  I don’t care about escorted excursions, this cruise I was looking at all NCL excursions anyway.  I don’t care about any of the restrictions at all, I just need to get on a ship!