Captain Billy Bob Posted June 1, 2021 #251 Share Posted June 1, 2021 21 minutes ago, Luckynana said: Aaargh!! Not more rain!!!!!🤪 Thursday Cloudy and more humid with a couple of showers and a thunderstorm; breezy in the afternoon high in the mid 70s Hot next week with highs in the 90s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Billy Bob Posted June 1, 2021 #252 Share Posted June 1, 2021 If Murphy has anything to say about cruising it's going to be a long wait for cruising to restart from Cape Liberty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arzeena Posted June 1, 2021 #253 Share Posted June 1, 2021 35 minutes ago, Captain Billy Bob said: If Murphy has anything to say about cruising it's going to be a long wait for cruising to restart from Cape Liberty. Ask him personally if you win his Dinner with the Gov and Tammy Lottery vaccine incentive! 😉🥴🤣 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Billy Bob Posted June 1, 2021 #254 Share Posted June 1, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Arzeena said: Ask him personally if you win his Dinner with the Gov and Tammy Lottery vaccine incentive! 😉🥴🤣 Yeah, no, that's not gonna happen. I can think of lots more compelling reasons to get the vaccine than having Dinner with gov horse face. 🤮 Edited June 1, 2021 by Captain Billy Bob 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiseBride926 Posted June 2, 2021 #255 Share Posted June 2, 2021 4 hours ago, Captain Billy Bob said: If Murphy has anything to say about cruising it's going to be a long wait for cruising to restart from Cape Liberty. Pretty much everything is open. I don’t think he’s going to stand in the way of cruising. Plus he’s running for re-election and seems to be on a “make everything seem normal” tour. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arzeena Posted June 2, 2021 #256 Share Posted June 2, 2021 9 hours ago, CruiseBride926 said: Pretty much everything is open. I don’t think he’s going to stand in the way of cruising. Plus he’s running for re-election and seems to be on a “make everything seem normal” tour. 🤣🤣😆 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmcgann11 Posted June 2, 2021 #257 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Just now, jpurdy said: We are on Oasis July 16 and am following any progress very carefully...the waiting is difficult. We are on Oasis Aug. 29 and if we're stressed (timing looks a bit better), you must be freaked out. I hope it works out for you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long4acruise Posted June 2, 2021 #258 Share Posted June 2, 2021 We're booked on Freedom for Sep 2-11 for Canada/NE and this itinerary most likely won't happen for multiple reasons. Staying the course to see what RC does as we don't have to make final payment til 45 days prior. Would love to L&S to 2022 at our great price, although Freedom isn't doing this itinerary next year. It's ADV from Bayonne (2 hr Amtrak ride) or EN from Baltimore (35 min via car). This was our 3rd time trying to do the C/NE itinerary. Already booked on Oasis in 2022 from Bayonne as a 2nd L&S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine3601 Posted June 2, 2021 #259 Share Posted June 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, long4acruise said: We're booked on Freedom for Sep 2-11 for Canada/NE and this itinerary most likely won't happen for multiple reasons. Staying the course to see what RC does as we don't have to make final payment til 45 days prior. Would love to L&S to 2022 at our great price, although Freedom isn't doing this itinerary next year. It's ADV from Bayonne (2 hr Amtrak ride) or EN from Baltimore (35 min via car). This was our 3rd time trying to do the C/NE itinerary. Already booked on Oasis in 2022 from Bayonne as a 2nd L&S. We were booked on freedom for Ne/canada sailing too but with canada borders closed we took the full refund option instead of having them hold our money to risk having them change itinerary to bahamas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long4acruise Posted June 2, 2021 #260 Share Posted June 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Sunshine3601 said: We were booked on freedom for Ne/canada sailing too but with canada borders closed we took the full refund option instead of having them hold our money to risk having them change itinerary to bahamas Yes, I understand your decision. We've only paid a $100pp deposit and since we'd still like to do this itinerary some day (2022!) and with a great rate of about $90/day for a spacious OV balcony, we'll make final payment in mid-July and hopefully offered a L&S option. (Not interested in a shorter cruise or the Bahamas.) The cost benefit for us in letting RC hold $2000 for an itinerary we really want to do in the future far outweighs the high prices for a great cabin next year and we incur minimum same day transportation expense. Patiently waiting for RC's decision, options offered. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine3601 Posted June 2, 2021 #261 Share Posted June 2, 2021 4 hours ago, long4acruise said: Yes, I understand your decision. We've only paid a $100pp deposit and since we'd still like to do this itinerary some day (2022!) and with a great rate of about $90/day for a spacious OV balcony, we'll make final payment in mid-July and hopefully offered a L&S option. (Not interested in a shorter cruise or the Bahamas.) The cost benefit for us in letting RC hold $2000 for an itinerary we really want to do in the future far outweighs the high prices for a great cabin next year and we incur minimum same day transportation expense. Patiently waiting for RC's decision, options offered. I completely understand and hope it works out for you. It is a sailing that we, too, really want to do but I didn't see any sailing comparable for 2022 if they do a L & S option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNJCruisers Posted June 4, 2021 #262 Share Posted June 4, 2021 On 6/1/2021 at 10:46 AM, not-enough-cruising said: Well, my first clue is when Richard Fain said it on one of his Vlogs And when he said it, did he specifically mention Caribbean cruises? I inferred he was talking about the initial Alaska cruises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiseBride926 Posted June 4, 2021 #263 Share Posted June 4, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, SNJCruisers said: And when he said it, did he specifically mention Caribbean cruises? I inferred he was talking about the initial Alaska cruises. Nothing was mentioned specifically but it sounded like he was referring to all cruises. Plus it’s pretty clear from all of the new test cruise announcements that this is the way they’re going. Edited June 4, 2021 by CruiseBride926 Autocorrect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNJCruisers Posted June 4, 2021 #264 Share Posted June 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, CruiseBride926 said: Nothing was mentioned specifically but it sounded like he was referring to all cruises. Plus it’s pretty clear from all of the new test cruise announcements that this is the way they’re going. If they go the test cruise route, then each and every ship has to go through it, which will take substantially longer than the 95% route. I understand that they wish to do it to increase the number of unvaccinated children on board, but unless they also come out with an official, no unvaccinated adults on Caribbean cruises at the same time, then the test cruise route will also possibly allow unvaccinated adults by the droves to sail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiseBride926 Posted June 4, 2021 #265 Share Posted June 4, 2021 24 minutes ago, SNJCruisers said: If they go the test cruise route, then each and every ship has to go through it, which will take substantially longer than the 95% route. I understand that they wish to do it to increase the number of unvaccinated children on board, but unless they also come out with an official, no unvaccinated adults on Caribbean cruises at the same time, then the test cruise route will also possibly allow unvaccinated adults by the droves to sail. The way he worded it made it seem anyone that can get vaccinated will be required to. Probably something along the lines of the Bahamas cruises where 12+ need to be vaccinated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted June 4, 2021 #266 Share Posted June 4, 2021 32 minutes ago, SNJCruisers said: If they go the test cruise route, then each and every ship has to go through it, which will take substantially longer than the 95% route. I understand that they wish to do it to increase the number of unvaccinated children on board, but unless they also come out with an official, no unvaccinated adults on Caribbean cruises at the same time, then the test cruise route will also possibly allow unvaccinated adults by the droves to sail. Several more ships mentioned today for test cruises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
later Posted June 4, 2021 #267 Share Posted June 4, 2021 The freedom test cruise is out of Miami so it will not be sailing from NJ unless it will also run a freedom test cruise out of NJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbottoms66 Posted June 4, 2021 #268 Share Posted June 4, 2021 Test cruises do not have to go out of their home port. The cruise line just needs to have a port agreement with the home port. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNJCruisers Posted June 4, 2021 #269 Share Posted June 4, 2021 2 hours ago, CruiseBride926 said: The way he worded it made it seem anyone that can get vaccinated will be required to. Probably something along the lines of the Bahamas cruises where 12+ need to be vaccinated. That's the problem. Nothing is officially in writing yet. It's all conjecture and speculation and reading between the lines and inference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boscobeans Posted June 4, 2021 #270 Share Posted June 4, 2021 I wonder if the "TRIAL" or "TEST" cruise passenger and crew requirements for the ANTHEM'S cruises PRIOR to her return to New Jersey are compliant or being made compliant during her European cruises? It might make sense and allow for a smoother and more rapid transition to more normal cruising at least for the ANTHEM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boscobeans Posted June 4, 2021 #271 Share Posted June 4, 2021 On 5/31/2021 at 12:49 PM, dswallow said: Ummm... incorrect. 🙂 In the US: Modern: 4 weeks (28 days), OK to administer up to 4 days earlier; 6 weeks max Pfizer: 3 weeks (21 days), OK to administer up to 4 days earlier; 6 weeks max The 4-day early grace period is not supposed to be used for sscheduling; it's more a case of reviewing records and determining if the vaccination was valid or not. COVID-19 Vaccines that Require 2 Shots | CDC Some other countries are doing the second shot much later than that timetable, though. Does anyone know for sure how many of the crew on ships like the ANTHEM or others currently sailing are already vaccinated or are in the process ? What are the passenger requirements now and in the near future as to testing or vaccinations ? By the time she switches from her European sailings and heads over to Jersey the entire crew could easily be fully vaccinated and familiar with any and all new regulations that may be imposed for her Cape Liberty itineraries?? Would any of her pre-Jersey sailings count towards a TEST or TRIAL cruise ??? Too many IFs, ANDs or BUTs tossed into the entire pot of speculations which is being stirred by both positive and negative amateur chefs. I am a positive chef hoping that we will be back to normal as fast as is safely possible. In the meantime I just keep my fingers crossed and hope for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswallow Posted June 4, 2021 #272 Share Posted June 4, 2021 58 minutes ago, boscobeans said: Does anyone know for sure how many of the crew on ships like the ANTHEM or others currently sailing are already vaccinated or are in the process ? What are the passenger requirements now and in the near future as to testing or vaccinations ? By the time she switches from her European sailings and heads over to Jersey the entire crew could easily be fully vaccinated and familiar with any and all new regulations that may be imposed for her Cape Liberty itineraries?? Would any of her pre-Jersey sailings count towards a TEST or TRIAL cruise ??? Too many IFs, ANDs or BUTs tossed into the entire pot of speculations which is being stirred by both positive and negative amateur chefs. I am a positive chef hoping that we will be back to normal as fast as is safely possible. In the meantime I just keep my fingers crossed and hope for the best. Anthem is supposed to be a fully vaccinated crew before taking on fully vaccinated UK passengers (under 18 would just need a negative test). If current CDC requirements are followed, Anthem would either need to do a test sailing out of the US somewhere, or only accept a 95% or higher vaccinated passenger number to sail from the US; who knows how things might change, of course. But generally speaking having to spend a couple days at that point before beginning revenue cruises out of Cape Liberty is probably a minor thing; Royal Caribbean will have experience with going through the process on other ships by then and will know what is expected of them which should minimize any chance for a delay in the process. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Billy Bob Posted June 4, 2021 #273 Share Posted June 4, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, mbottoms66 said: Test cruises do not have to go out of their home port. The cruise line just needs to have a port agreement with the home port. Do the cruise lines have such an agreement with Cape Liberty? Edited June 4, 2021 by Captain Billy Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boscobeans Posted June 4, 2021 #274 Share Posted June 4, 2021 1 hour ago, dswallow said: Anthem is supposed to be a fully vaccinated crew before taking on fully vaccinated UK passengers (under 18 would just need a negative test). I can't locate where Royal Caribbean stipulates that passengers on those cruises be vaccinated? It doesn't show up anywhere during the entire booking process for any of their October departures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbottoms66 Posted June 4, 2021 #275 Share Posted June 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Captain Billy Bob said: Do the cruise lines have such an agreement with Cape Liberty? I don't know if it is official yet but there was an article somewhere ( I have read so many I can't remember) that says they are ready. I will try to find the article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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