Rare Alsmez Posted May 23, 2021 #1 Share Posted May 23, 2021 I booked an MSC Cruise for this January before I realized that MSC is not requiring all passengers to be vaccinated. Obviously a lot can happen between now and January, but I'm not sure I'm comfortable cruising with unvaccinated passengers. Most of the other major lines have announced it will be required - any chance MSC will fall in line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipgeeks Posted May 23, 2021 #2 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Are you sailing from the US? Europe? I'm guessing that since the US sailings will be a fresh start, perhaps that will be a time to begin requiring them. Of course, when they started sailing in Europe many months ago, there were no vaccines. I'm with you; agree that I would definitely prefer that all passengers be vaccinated. MSC has said that crew will be, so that's a good sign. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Alsmez Posted May 24, 2021 Author #3 Share Posted May 24, 2021 We'll be sailing from the US. However, if the state of Florida is in charge of requirements, who knows what they'll do. They have been way more lax than most other states on everything from mask mandates to reopening schedules up to this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neptuno Posted May 24, 2021 #4 Share Posted May 24, 2021 We are pre-booked for a December'21 cruise out of Miami. Hopefully the vaccine will be mandated for all passengers. We will cancel our booking if not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korpo024 Posted May 24, 2021 #5 Share Posted May 24, 2021 In Europe there are no kids vaccinated, so they won't change the policy. At least children should always be welcome onboard. I guess they will work with the European green pass. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korpo024 Posted May 24, 2021 #6 Share Posted May 24, 2021 1 hour ago, neptuno said: We are pre-booked for a December'21 cruise out of Miami. Hopefully the vaccine will be mandated for all passengers. We will cancel our booking if not. Why? You are vaccinated so you are safe...it's the people who aren't vaccinated that will be in quarantine. Not you 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted May 24, 2021 #7 Share Posted May 24, 2021 3 hours ago, korpo024 said: Why? You are vaccinated so you are safe...it's the people who aren't vaccinated that will be in quarantine. Not you Korpo ... like you I cannot understand the thinking behind this, although even those who had the jab can still catch and pass on the virus! There are many reports and cases of it happening around the World with Eight members of a US Baseball team having caught it after having both jabs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korpo024 Posted May 24, 2021 #8 Share Posted May 24, 2021 40 minutes ago, sidari said: Korpo ... like you I cannot understand the thinking behind this, although even those who had the jab can still catch and pass on the virus! There are many reports and cases of it happening around the World with Eight members of a US Baseball team having caught it after having both jabs. But are they sick? No..only very mild symptoms. Let's move on and let cruising be normal again. By the way...in three weeks I am fully vaccinated. But children won't be vaccinated in Europe for a long time and MSC is a family cruise line, so they will not have the policy that only fully vaccinated people can board. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted May 24, 2021 #9 Share Posted May 24, 2021 2 hours ago, korpo024 said: But are they sick? No..only very mild symptoms. Let's move on and let cruising be normal again. By the way...in three weeks I am fully vaccinated. But children won't be vaccinated in Europe for a long time and MSC is a family cruise line, so they will not have the policy that only fully vaccinated people can board. I would be surprised if they did change it for Europe though they might be forced to in the USA unless they sail from a different embarkation port. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Alsmez Posted May 24, 2021 Author #10 Share Posted May 24, 2021 2 hours ago, korpo024 said: But children won't be vaccinated in Europe for a long time and MSC is a family cruise line, so they will not have the policy that only fully vaccinated people can board. The American lines that are requiring vaccinations for adults also make exceptions for children since the vaccine is not yet approved for people under 12. We try to sail when there won't be many kids on board anyway, so this isn't a major concern for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ziggyuk Posted May 24, 2021 #11 Share Posted May 24, 2021 7 hours ago, korpo024 said: Why? You are vaccinated so you are safe...it's the people who aren't vaccinated that will be in quarantine. Not you 4 hours ago, sidari said: Korpo ... like you I cannot understand the thinking behind this, although even those who had the jab can still catch and pass on the virus! There are many reports and cases of it happening around the World with Eight members of a US Baseball team having caught it after having both jabs. For me it's simple, why would I cruise with unvaccinated if I have the choice, sure I might not get seriously sick because I'm vaccinated, I don't want corvid while on holiday (vacation), end of story. I also don't want to be on a ship if there was an outbreak and people end up in quarantine, it may not be and issue on a single country cruise but a "sick" ship will likely not be able to port in some countries. I might be protected but that does not change the worlds view of a "sick" ship. Simple in my eyes, if I have the choice to cruise with 100% vaccinated crew and passengers (even no children) which is NCLs offering, why would I not choose that. Additionally, when people break the rules, as they inevitably do, I would rather those rule breakers are vaccinated rule breakers. My cruise, my choice. And yes, I know there are lots of things I can catch while on a cruise, I do what I can to avoid them too. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lienf Posted May 24, 2021 #12 Share Posted May 24, 2021 Has MSC had many outbreaks on their European cruises? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ziggyuk Posted May 24, 2021 #13 Share Posted May 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, lienf said: Has MSC had many outbreaks on their European cruises? Yes, Small numbers but yes they have. https://travelweekly.co.uk/articles/391105/msc-cruises-deals-with-very-small-number-of-covid-19-cases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korpo024 Posted May 24, 2021 #14 Share Posted May 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, ziggyuk said: Yes, Small numbers but yes they have. https://travelweekly.co.uk/articles/391105/msc-cruises-deals-with-very-small-number-of-covid-19-cases hardly an outbreak...an outbreak is when many people get the virus... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ziggyuk Posted May 24, 2021 #15 Share Posted May 24, 2021 Just now, korpo024 said: hardly an outbreak...an outbreak is when many people get the virus... Correct, which is why I said "small number" as does the article. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipgeeks Posted May 24, 2021 #16 Share Posted May 24, 2021 12 minutes ago, lienf said: Has MSC had many outbreaks on their European cruises? Many: No. Any: Yes, a few. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipgeeks Posted May 24, 2021 #17 Share Posted May 24, 2021 8 hours ago, korpo024 said: Why? You are vaccinated so you are safe...it's the people who aren't vaccinated that will be in quarantine. Not you But if the ship has to return to home port/skip ports, all of us are affected. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korpo024 Posted May 24, 2021 #18 Share Posted May 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, ziggyuk said: Correct, which is why I said "small number" as does the article. that is NOT an outbreak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korpo024 Posted May 24, 2021 #19 Share Posted May 24, 2021 1 minute ago, shipgeeks said: But if the ship has to return to home port/skip ports, all of us are affected. extra long holiday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ziggyuk Posted May 24, 2021 #20 Share Posted May 24, 2021 I will also add that while NCL, P&O, Cunard, Virgin etc etc have said "vaccinated only" that leaves MSC for the unvaccinated, meaning an un-proportionally higher number of unvacated and probably the cruise line of choice for the antivax brigade.. As I said my cruise, my choice. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS CRUZIN Posted May 24, 2021 #21 Share Posted May 24, 2021 11 hours ago, neptuno said: We are pre-booked for a December'21 cruise out of Miami. Hopefully the vaccine will be mandated for all passengers. We will cancel our booking if not. Well, you will probably cancel. Florida does not allow any company doing business in Florida to ask if you ahve been vaccinated or not. A $5000.00 fine if they do. The only thing they allow is that they can request you to wear a mask in their business. So far Publix Super Market and Walmart do not require masks any longer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted May 24, 2021 #22 Share Posted May 24, 2021 1 hour ago, ziggyuk said: I will also add that while NCL, P&O, Cunard, Virgin etc etc have said "vaccinated only" that leaves MSC for the unvaccinated, meaning an un-proportionally higher number of unvacated and probably the cruise line of choice for the antivax brigade.. As I said my cruise, my choice. Does that mean you stay in the house at home because there is every chance you at some point will come into contact with those who won't or can't have the jab in the outside world including the workplace? I see that you have been brainwashed by the media using the "antivax" brigade Derogatory term, what next "Refuseniks" "None Coercionist's" 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ziggyuk Posted May 24, 2021 #23 Share Posted May 24, 2021 (edited) 50 minutes ago, sidari said: Does that mean you stay in the house at home because there is every chance you at some point will come into contact with those who won't or can't have the jab in the outside world including the workplace? I see that you have been brainwashed by the media using the "antivax" brigade Derogatory term, what next "Refuseniks" "None Coercionist's" Obviously not which is why I'm booked on Virtuosos. Strange conclusion to draw from my comment. I take the safest choice at all times, I choose not to use public transport if I can take my own car, or bike. I wonder why you question my choice, I would rather sail on a vaccinated ship, it's a thought out decision I have made and that's why I booked another NCL on Friday. My choice and I have explained the reasons, strange you feel the need to question my choice. Edited May 24, 2021 by ziggyuk 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lienf Posted May 24, 2021 #24 Share Posted May 24, 2021 2 hours ago, ziggyuk said: Yes, Small numbers but yes they have. https://travelweekly.co.uk/articles/391105/msc-cruises-deals-with-very-small-number-of-covid-19-cases If I read that article correctly it is dated October 29th last year. Are there any further updates, and how many of their cruise were cut short? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Alsmez Posted May 24, 2021 Author #25 Share Posted May 24, 2021 1 hour ago, lienf said: If I read that article correctly it is dated October 29th last year. Are there any further updates, and how many of their cruise were cut short? Here's an article from February of this year, with some information as to how things were handled in this specific case: Cruise Passenger Tests Positive for COVID-19 on MSC Grandiosa | Cruise Law News Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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