Rare Eli_6 Posted May 26, 2021 #1 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Or at least I think it is updated: https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/cruise/covid19-operations-manual-cso.html?fbclid=IwAR0EwGki_gGVdqgEBm_ywTUaPTowYwKFK3er9ErgLrHdeGQ3bt6hhrd_qns 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Eli_6 Posted May 26, 2021 Author #2 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Re face masks: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rare Eli_6 Posted May 26, 2021 Author #4 Share Posted May 26, 2021 The above was the former order. Not clear exactly how it has been amended??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earthworm Jim Posted May 26, 2021 #5 Share Posted May 26, 2021 From the page you provided a link to (highlighting mine): Fully Vaccinated Travelers Cruise ship operators, at their discretion, may advise passengers and crew that—if they are fully vaccinated—they may gather or conduct activities outdoors, including engaging in extended meal service or beverage consumption, without wearing a mask. Cruise ship operators, at their discretion, may advise crew who are fully vaccinated that they do not have to wear a mask or maintain physical distance in areas of the ship that are inaccessible to passengers. Cruise ship operators, at their discretion, may designate areas as only accessible to fully vaccinated passengers and crew where masks and physical distancing are not required (e.g., casinos; bars; spas; entertainment venues; and dining areas, including self-serve buffets). For ships with at least 95% of crew and 95% of passengers fully vaccinated, cruise ship operators, at their discretion, may advise passengers and crew that they do not have to wear a mask or maintain physical distance in any areas. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Eli_6 Posted May 26, 2021 Author #6 Share Posted May 26, 2021 I found the updated. You don't have to wear it outside or while swimming and fully vaxed don't have to wear. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stellarose Posted May 26, 2021 #7 Share Posted May 26, 2021 again, who knows what will happen come the fall. final payment September. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdever Posted May 26, 2021 #8 Share Posted May 26, 2021 “Cruise ship operators, at their discretion, may...” Realistically, if Carnival is not going to sail with all vaccinated passengers they are either going to have to enforce a mask mandate on unvaccinated passengers or come up with a way where they don’t have to police or enforce anything. I don’t think Carnival wants to be in the position of being mask police so the only way around it would be to a) give passengers who are vaccinated or unvaccinated visible identification such as wristbands b) make everyone wear a mask regardless of vaccination status Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitemyfly Posted May 26, 2021 #9 Share Posted May 26, 2021 This will change, remember just 5 weeks ago they were for wearing two masks after vaccination, they along with most central planning are just behind ..very slow to adapt to a changing environment.. give it weeks and will change again . 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerReuv Posted May 26, 2021 #10 Share Posted May 26, 2021 This is why I am happy we are not booked until October 2022. By then, everything will have changed 100 times. But, I feel confident by then there won't be mask requirements. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruising89143 Posted May 27, 2021 #11 Share Posted May 27, 2021 First ship given the green light to resume cruises from the U.S. Celebrity Edge. https://www.seatrade-cruise.com/ship-operations/celebrity-edge-be-first-back-cruising-us-june-26 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallow Posted May 27, 2021 #12 Share Posted May 27, 2021 How will the Celebrity Edge sail out of Florida and require vaccinations? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProgRockCruiser Posted May 27, 2021 #13 Share Posted May 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, Mallow said: How will the Celebrity Edge sail out of Florida and require vaccinations? I guess by challenging the FL law regarding that issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruising89143 Posted May 27, 2021 #14 Share Posted May 27, 2021 11 minutes ago, Mallow said: How will the Celebrity Edge sail out of Florida and require vaccinations? We shall soon see just how much the Florida Governor wants to keep the Florida cruise industry closed. If he is smart he will back off his recent orders. A lot of people in that state depend on a healthy cruise industry for employment. Also, I see lawsuits left and right if this gets blocked. https://www.forbes.com/sites/suzannerowankelleher/2021/05/07/ron-desantis-florida-vaccine-passports-cruise-industry/?sh=7e0a04c37929 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProgRockCruiser Posted May 27, 2021 #15 Share Posted May 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, cruisingator2 said: We shall soon see just how much the Florida Governor wants to keep the Florida cruise industry closed. If he is smart he will back off his recent orders. A lot of people in that state depend on a healthy cruise industry for employment. Also, I see lawsuits left and right if this gets blocked. Also, I note the following from the article: Fain credited collaboration with the CDC, elected officials at the local, state and national levels and industry partners at Cruise Lines International Association. So perhaps this has somehow been given the OK by FL/Desantis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruising89143 Posted May 27, 2021 #16 Share Posted May 27, 2021 1 minute ago, ProgRockCruiser said: Also, I note the following from the article: Fain credited collaboration with the CDC, elected officials at the local, state and national levels and industry partners at Cruise Lines International Association. So perhaps this has somehow been given the OK by FL/Desantis? Since the news came out today about the Edge, it looks as though we will soon see other cruise lines and ships being given the green light to go. If that’s the case and DeSantis has indeed changed his mind then we will more than likely hear soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdever Posted May 27, 2021 #17 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Great News!!! Thank you for sharing!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stallion Posted May 27, 2021 #18 Share Posted May 27, 2021 The Florida law was a political stunt that no person educated on the interstate commerce clause was too terribly concerned with or what Florida's governor might claim since Florida can only regulate intra-state commerce. Seriously what federal constitutional or maritime expert has ever claimed the Florida law applied to interstate commerce. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProgRockCruiser Posted May 27, 2021 #19 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Just now, cruisingator2 said: If that’s the case and DeSantis has indeed changed his mind then we will more than likely hear soon. Or we'll never hear from him again on the topic... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdever Posted May 27, 2021 #20 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Just now, ProgRockCruiser said: Or we'll never hear from him again on the topic... Exactly... crickets on the topic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruising89143 Posted May 27, 2021 #21 Share Posted May 27, 2021 1 minute ago, ProgRockCruiser said: Or we'll never hear from him again on the topic... That would be my guess. #Distraction……😊 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChutChut Posted May 27, 2021 #22 Share Posted May 27, 2021 2 hours ago, bdever said: “Cruise ship operators, at their discretion, may...” Realistically, if Carnival is not going to sail with all vaccinated passengers they are either going to have to enforce a mask mandate on unvaccinated passengers or come up with a way where they don’t have to police or enforce anything. I don’t think Carnival wants to be in the position of being mask police so the only way around it would be to a) give passengers who are vaccinated or unvaccinated visible identification such as wristbands b) make everyone wear a mask regardless of vaccination status Won't do wrist bands or the like. Will probably rely on the truthfulness of pax or require everyone to wear a mask. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChutChut Posted May 27, 2021 #23 Share Posted May 27, 2021 28 minutes ago, Stallion said: The Florida law was a political stunt that no person educated on the interstate commerce clause was too terribly concerned with or what Florida's governor might claim since Florida can only regulate intra-state commerce. Seriously what federal constitutional or maritime expert has ever claimed the Florida law applied to interstate commerce. First - it's the Commerce Clause (no interstate in the title - but you would know that if you knew anything about the Commerce Clause) and you are wrong in that the Port is owned by state/local. As such, cruises docked at the port ARE governed by a combination of fed, state, and local law. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pc_load_letter Posted May 27, 2021 #24 Share Posted May 27, 2021 This is a game changer. Wow, I really think the .gov is looking at ways to "incentivize" getting vax'd. Nice read here... https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/25113-cdc-significantly-relaxes-cruise-rules-for-fully-vaccinated-passengers.html?fbclid=IwAR1wFpWcDEZAb97kXNSXaf1D2BZt0VWlqCJGkOCn-8jk1ulyeB4k43BZG1M 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruising89143 Posted May 27, 2021 #25 Share Posted May 27, 2021 1 hour ago, ProgRockCruiser said: Or we'll never hear from him again on the topic... Well maybe not…… https://www.miamiherald.com/news/business/tourism-cruises/article251706998.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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