Rare fellswoop Posted December 9, 2021 #1 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Getting a bit worried that at the last minute Hawaii will extend its "no cruise ships yet" policy January 1st. The last info from Safe Travels Hawaii was till "at least" January 2022. That leaves room to extend it. Omicrom may sway them. We are on Koningsdam January 16th headed there. 🤞 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkNC Posted December 9, 2021 #2 Share Posted December 9, 2021 No way to know until they announce a decision. We are sailing there in early March. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cate54 Posted December 9, 2021 #3 Share Posted December 9, 2021 We are due to go Feb 2, it's all up in the air until Hawaii makes a decision. 🤞 mine too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFO Peter Posted December 10, 2021 #4 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Small ships started sailing. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare visagrunt Posted December 10, 2021 #5 Share Posted December 10, 2021 We're on Koningsdam on January 16 as well. I'm not letting this both me. Just having a deck under my shoes will be enough! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slb1949 Posted December 10, 2021 #6 Share Posted December 10, 2021 We’re on January 16 also. Still on our calendar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caribbean Chris Posted December 10, 2021 #7 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Another January 16 hopeful here. I wish the state would get on with it and announce their decision now, yes or no. There are around ten ships representing thousands of travelers scheduled to arrive in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartgrove Posted December 10, 2021 #8 Share Posted December 10, 2021 We are aboard the Koningsdam right now. Chatting with our MDR steward last night, the crew is still planning on the sailing to Hawaii next month. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nocl Posted December 10, 2021 #9 Share Posted December 10, 2021 With the Holidays rapidly approaching does not seem that much time remains to get the port agreements in place, and the changes made to the safe travel Hawaii system for the early January cruises. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare visagrunt Posted December 10, 2021 #10 Share Posted December 10, 2021 If the parties were starting from square one, I'd agree. However, the ports' various cruise ship schedules for 2022 show vessels' dates (including a different set of dates for our January 2022 port calls...) which strongly suggests to me that ports are seized of the issue and have likely been working away on the necessary elements. What they probably lack is political direction to proceed. Ultimately the Hawai'ian government has to make the call, and that decision will likely go up to the highest levels. It might be a very last minute green or amber light from which the ports will then reach out to sign agreements that are already substantially drafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nocl Posted December 10, 2021 #11 Share Posted December 10, 2021 keep in mind that the same sites listed the Nov and dec port calls as well until they were canceled. The port agreements are going to be determined by state level requirements concerning how cases will be handled and other requirements. As such the negotiations will be driven by the state and the expansion of safe travels hawaii. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazey1 Posted December 10, 2021 #12 Share Posted December 10, 2021 and yet another Jan. 16th hopeful here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josie201 Posted December 11, 2021 #13 Share Posted December 11, 2021 Fingers crossed for all of you. We were on the Feb 2 sailing but cancelled. Too much uncertainty for us to enjoy the planning. And from Canada our flights to San Diego were getting too complicated with 2 plus connections and a 14 plus hour travel day. 18 months of planning and waiting gone in 20 minutes on the phone. 😞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkNC Posted December 11, 2021 #14 Share Posted December 11, 2021 23 minutes ago, Josie201 said: Fingers crossed for all of you. We were on the Feb 2 sailing but cancelled. Too much uncertainty for us to enjoy the planning. And from Canada our flights to San Diego were getting too complicated with 2 plus connections and a 14 plus hour travel day. 18 months of planning and waiting gone in 20 minutes on the phone. 😞 Understood, there are so many hurdles to traveling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaunceyb Posted December 11, 2021 #15 Share Posted December 11, 2021 On 12/9/2021 at 12:54 PM, fellswoop said: Getting a bit worried that at the last minute Hawaii will extend its "no cruise ships yet" policy January 1st. The last info from Safe Travels Hawaii was till "at least" January 2022. That leaves room to extend it. Omicrom may sway them. We are on Koningsdam January 16th headed there. 🤞 All depends what our King (I mean Governor) Ige decides. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinprof Posted December 22, 2021 #16 Share Posted December 22, 2021 We are also on Jan 16 Koningsdam sailing. On Oct 17, I emailed HAL about Hawaii Safe Travels for cruises. They responded on Dec 14 with this: Good Day, The state of Hawaii is still working on their Safe Travels web platform to accommodate cruise lines and they have informed us that they hope to have it updated by the end of the year. Thank you for your time, FELIPE RODRIGUEZ Documentation Agent Who know if this is true or not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caribbean Chris Posted December 22, 2021 #17 Share Posted December 22, 2021 (edited) On 12/10/2021 at 2:26 PM, visagrunt said: However, the ports' various cruise ship schedules for 2022 show vessels' dates (including a different set of dates for our January 2022 port calls...) Visagrunt, I’ve been checking occasionally, too, for our January cruise. As you know, for weeks our itinerary has been shown as rearranged and the Kauai section of the site doesn’t show Konigsdam calling there at all until February. https://hawaii.portcall.com/#!?tab=2 Today I noticed that our Oahu call (still one day later than our official HAL itinerary shows) now indicates “Last Port” as Santa Catalina. (For a while there it said Kauai.) Hawaii PortCall seems to be a semi-official source of info that other government websites link to. So reading the tea leaves, we all may be in Avalon on Day Two after leaving San Diego. But with all the negative reports on the spread of Omicron, I won’t be at all surprised if the Governor decides to stay closed to big ships in January. Edited December 22, 2021 by Caribbean Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnlcruise Posted December 22, 2021 #18 Share Posted December 22, 2021 On 12/10/2021 at 2:54 PM, lazey1 said: and yet another Jan. 16th hopeful here. Us to. Fingers cross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFO Peter Posted December 22, 2021 #19 Share Posted December 22, 2021 (edited) Maybe there is still hope. Call at Catalina is fine by me. I started doing Hawaii Safe Travels and this is what I saw below. Last port of call before Hawaii was Catalina not San Diego per Caribbean Chris. I think Safe Travels for cruise to Hawaii is going to be a requirement. You can use Clear Digital Pass to show your booster. Booster not showing on Common Pass. Peter Edited December 22, 2021 by SFO PETER 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zelker Posted December 22, 2021 #20 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Hi, guys - I've been watching all the roll calls that are supposed to visit Hawaii in the first few months of 2022 (we're booked on Zuiderdam Hi/SoPac at the end of February). Our schedule on the Hawaii Port Calls website now shows us on Santa Catalina the day after San Diego too, and they've switched what would have been our first Hawaii port of Hilo to our last Hawaii port before we head south. Here's the link to Santa Catalina's 2022 cruise ship schedule - you'll note that the HAL ships have been added within the last few weeks but do not show as confirmed yet so it's still a work in progress. 2022 Cruise Ship Schedule (lovecatalina.com) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFO Peter Posted December 22, 2021 #21 Share Posted December 22, 2021 (edited) thanks zelker. I was just about to apologize to everyone that I don't know what I am doing! o.k. going back to struggle with Hawaii Safe Travels. I think Hawaii will require you to do this to enter Hawaii on cruise ship. Peter Edited December 22, 2021 by SFO PETER 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDARCH Posted December 22, 2021 #22 Share Posted December 22, 2021 @SFO PETER @zelker This is getting very interesting. Love your sleuthing. We are on the Jan 16th voyage and I had completely convinced myself that this trip was not going to happen. We were booked on the cancelled Nov 2021 Hawaii cruise....went on a 7-day Mexican K-dam cruise instead - and it was wonderful. This is at least some positive news. I think the changing of ports is a good sign. Enrolled in the Hawaii Safe Travels site and our cruise is preloaded. Not a guarantee of course, but some good news. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zelker Posted December 22, 2021 #23 Share Posted December 22, 2021 @SDARCH - thanks for the heads up about being able to enroll in the Hawaii Safe Travels site ... I just did ours. I saw at the very end that it says cruise ship passengers must submit a negative test taken on the ship while enroute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDARCH Posted December 22, 2021 #24 Share Posted December 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, zelker said: @SDARCH - thanks for the heads up about being able to enroll in the Hawaii Safe Travels site ... I just did ours. I saw at the very end that it says cruise ship passengers must submit a negative test taken on the ship while enroute. We can thank @SFO PETER for the info on the Hawaii Safe Travels site. I didn't catch that about the test. Thanks! I ordered two Abbott home tests yesterday for the pre cruise test, but the internet was so awful on our last cruise, I wouldn't count on it to do the telemedicine eMed test on board. I would imagine (hope) HA will have testing on board for this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFO Peter Posted December 22, 2021 #25 Share Posted December 22, 2021 (edited) HAL routinely administers Rapid Antigen (Abbott) on board no charge to passengers. I think the fly in the ointment is whether Hawaii wants PCR test rather than Rapid Antigen. Hawaii requires PCR for flights to Hawaii. My understanding is that PCR on board is doable and PCR has been done for some Canadians who need PCR to fly home. Whether HAL will buy the equipment to do PCR for the entire ship is another question. Peter Edited December 22, 2021 by SFO PETER 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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