Froufie Posted March 19, 2022 #26 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Checked in today and happy to report the 'attestation' is online - so no need to print/complete the documents in hard copy! 🙂 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWT Cruiser Posted March 21, 2022 #27 Share Posted March 21, 2022 On 3/14/2022 at 4:34 PM, Fouremco said: Here's a link to the form: https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/pdf/Combined-Passenger-Attestation-Amended-Testing-Order-12-02-2021-p.pdf. As you will see, although 7 pages in length, there is very little information required from the average traveller. Thanks for the link. Only need to fill out our ARRIVECAN forms (before departure and another set for when we return) and I think we're all set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare gnome12 Posted March 21, 2022 #28 Share Posted March 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, NWT Cruiser said: Thanks for the link. Only need to fill out our ARRIVECAN forms (before departure and another set for when we return) and I think we're all set. As the name suggests ArriveCan is used for arriving in Canada. There is no need to fill it out before you depart from Canada. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWT Cruiser Posted March 21, 2022 #29 Share Posted March 21, 2022 (edited) 44 minutes ago, gnome12 said: Edited March 21, 2022 by NWT Cruiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWT Cruiser Posted March 21, 2022 #30 Share Posted March 21, 2022 45 minutes ago, gnome12 said: As the name suggests ArriveCan is used for arriving in Canada. There is no need to fill it out before you depart from Canada. 45 minutes ago, gnome12 said: As the name suggests ArriveCan is used for arriving in Canada. There is no need to fill it out before you depart from Canada. Thank you. That's one less set of papers we need to fill out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigAWL Posted March 22, 2022 #31 Share Posted March 22, 2022 13 hours ago, gnome12 said: As the name suggests ArriveCan is used for arriving in Canada. There is no need to fill it out before you depart from Canada. According to: https://www.canada.ca/en/transport-canada/news/2022/03/preventing-or-limiting-the-spread-of-covid-19-on-cruise-ships.html, passengers sailing from Canada are expected to enter trip info into ArriveCAN prior to boarding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare broberts Posted March 22, 2022 #32 Share Posted March 22, 2022 28 minutes ago, bigAWL said: According to: https://www.canada.ca/en/transport-canada/news/2022/03/preventing-or-limiting-the-spread-of-covid-19-on-cruise-ships.html, passengers sailing from Canada are expected to enter trip info into ArriveCAN prior to boarding. The section quoted is not specific to cruises departing Canada. It appears to be a summary of key points for voyages departing from Canada and arriving in Canada. Unless the GOC is requiring its testing rules for foreign departures travelling to Canada. Further down the page ArriveCan is discussed in terms of passengers travelling to Canada. Sadly GOC web pages are not known for clarity or brevity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigAWL Posted March 22, 2022 #33 Share Posted March 22, 2022 33 minutes ago, broberts said: The section quoted is not specific to cruises departing Canada. It appears to be a summary of key points for voyages departing from Canada and arriving in Canada. Unless the GOC is requiring its testing rules for foreign departures travelling to Canada. Further down the page ArriveCan is discussed in terms of passengers travelling to Canada. Sadly GOC web pages are not known for clarity or brevity. I did specify sailing from Canada, but I probably should not have. I read the regulations to mean any ship arriving in Canada. The top of the page talks about "welcoming cruise ships back to our waters." So, yes, I think GOC is imposing its testing requirements on foreign origin cruises if they want to come to Canada. All mentions of ArriveCAN on that page suggest to me that ArriveCAN is required prior to any sailing that will finish in Canada. So the previous poster, assuming he will arrive in Canada, will need to complete ArriveCAN prior to boarding. That's my read, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare broberts Posted March 22, 2022 #34 Share Posted March 22, 2022 29 minutes ago, bigAWL said: I did specify sailing from Canada, but I probably should not have. I read the regulations to mean any ship arriving in Canada. The top of the page talks about "welcoming cruise ships back to our waters." So, yes, I think GOC is imposing its testing requirements on foreign origin cruises if they want to come to Canada. All mentions of ArriveCAN on that page suggest to me that ArriveCAN is required prior to any sailing that will finish in Canada. So the previous poster, assuming he will arrive in Canada, will need to complete ArriveCAN prior to boarding. That's my read, anyway. That's also my reading of the announcement. But that interpretation does not conform with current marine arrival language at https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/diseases/coronavirus-disease-covid-19/arrivecan.html. There it indicates that marine arrivals may complete ArriveCan upon arrival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigAWL Posted March 22, 2022 #35 Share Posted March 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, broberts said: That's also my reading of the announcement. But that interpretation does not conform with current marine arrival language at https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/diseases/coronavirus-disease-covid-19/arrivecan.html. There it indicates that marine arrivals may complete ArriveCan upon arrival. Yep. They made a whole other regulation specific to cruise ships earlier this month, well after that page was drawn up. I assume the cruise regulation takes precedence over the marine vessel language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare broberts Posted March 22, 2022 #36 Share Posted March 22, 2022 1 minute ago, bigAWL said: Yep. They made a whole other regulation specific to cruise ships earlier this month, well after that page was drawn up. I assume the cruise regulation takes precedence over the marine vessel language. Assuming is rarely safe when it comes to understanding government regulation. 😀 The web page you linked, in the ArriveCan section, it indicates specifically that the web based version of ArriveCan must be used. If one goes through the process and selects marine entry (no cruise ship distinction), the direction specifically advises the user to return if arrival is more than 72 hours out, i.e. the entry form cannot be completed more than 72 hours prior to arrival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare gnome12 Posted March 22, 2022 #37 Share Posted March 22, 2022 2 hours ago, bigAWL said: According to: https://www.canada.ca/en/transport-canada/news/2022/03/preventing-or-limiting-the-spread-of-covid-19-on-cruise-ships.html, passengers sailing from Canada are expected to enter trip info into ArriveCAN prior to boarding. However, the topic of this thread is about Canadians departing by plane to the US, and I responded to that case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigAWL Posted March 22, 2022 #38 Share Posted March 22, 2022 46 minutes ago, gnome12 said: However, the topic of this thread is about Canadians departing by plane to the US, and I responded to that case. Oops! I guess I'm following too many COVID threads and got mixed up. Sorry for my confusion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauticalnuts Posted March 23, 2022 #39 Share Posted March 23, 2022 I'm confused by all this. We are flying to Fort Lauderdale to board Celebrity Equinox and are traveling with a two year old child. On Celebrity a child who cannot be vaccinated must present a negative PCR test within 72 hours of boarding. I've also read just recently that to fly to the U.S. you must present a negative test no more than a day before your flight departure. Is it possible to get results from a PCR test in less than a day for our child? Is this protocol still in effect or does our child have to have two separate tests? I'm not sure if I understand this correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouremco Posted March 23, 2022 #40 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 hour ago, nauticalnuts said: I'm confused by all this. We are flying to Fort Lauderdale to board Celebrity Equinox and are traveling with a two year old child. On Celebrity a child who cannot be vaccinated must present a negative PCR test within 72 hours of boarding. I've also read just recently that to fly to the U.S. you must present a negative test no more than a day before your flight departure. Is it possible to get results from a PCR test in less than a day for our child? Is this protocol still in effect or does our child have to have two separate tests? I'm not sure if I understand this correctly. The need for one or two tests will depend on your travel arrangements. Scenario One - You Fly to Fort Lauderdale One Day Before Embarkation In this scenario, both you (antigen) and your child (PCR) get tested per Celebrities requirements early on the day before your flight. There are numerous locations that provide same day PCR results. With these in hand, you meet the requirements for the flight the following day and for embarkation the day after. Scenario Two - You Fly to Fort Lauderdale Two Days Before Embarkation If you are going to spend two nights in Fort Lauderdale before boarding, your child's test the day before your flight will still meet Celebrity's requirements, but your antigen test won't. Depending on which airport you are flying from and the time of your flight, instead of being tested with your child the day before, you could get tested before heading to the airport or at the airport itself. If the flight is too early to allow those options, then you will need to be tested twice, once for the flight and again in Florida for the cruise. The Celebrity board has a long thread on getting tested there, and Celebrity itself offers some limited testing for international travellers. https://www.celebritycruises.com/healthy-at-sea/us-travel-requirements Scenario Three - You Fly to Fort Lauderdale Three or More Days Before Embarkation Both you and your child will need to be retested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauticalnuts Posted March 23, 2022 #41 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Fouremco said: The need for one or two tests will depend on your travel arrangements. Scenario One - You Fly to Fort Lauderdale One Day Before Embarkation In this scenario, both you (antigen) and your child (PCR) get tested per Celebrities requirements early on the day before your flight. There are numerous locations that provide same day PCR results. With these in hand, you meet the requirements for the flight the following day and for embarkation the day after. Scenario Two - You Fly to Fort Lauderdale Two Days Before Embarkation If you are going to spend two nights in Fort Lauderdale before boarding, your child's test the day before your flight will still meet Celebrity's requirements, but your antigen test won't. Depending on which airport you are flying from and the time of your flight, instead of being tested with your child the day before, you could get tested before heading to the airport or at the airport itself. If the flight is too early to allow those options, then you will need to be tested twice, once for the flight and again in Florida for the cruise. The Celebrity board has a long thread on getting tested there, and Celebrity itself offers some limited testing for international travellers. https://www.celebritycruises.com/healthy-at-sea/us-travel-requirements Scenario Three - You Fly to Fort Lauderdale Three or More Days Before Embarkation Both you and your child will need to be retested. Thanks so much for the info. We are leaving YYZ the day before we set sail so we will set up appointments as in scenario 1. I Didn't know they had same day PCR test results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouremco Posted March 23, 2022 #42 Share Posted March 23, 2022 50 minutes ago, nauticalnuts said: Thanks so much for the info. We are leaving YYZ the day before we set sail so we will set up appointments as in scenario 1. I Didn't know they had same day PCR test results. One thing that I should add is that the facilities that do rapid PCR testing also do antigen testing but for a higher price than at Shoppers, Costco and some of the other locations. It may be worthwhile getting your child's test in one place and your tests in another. A bit more time consuming but a good dollar saving. Have a great cruise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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