Royal Caribbean have swapped ships for 2023-2024!

[MicCanberra]

The International Maritime Organisation (IMO), the UN’s shipping based regulator will debate a proposal, which is being presented by France, next month to enforce speed limits on ships to help the industry meet an international target of halving its greenhouse emissions by 2050.

The 2008 financial crisis forced cargo ships to slow down to save money on fuel, but in recent years, the larger container ships have begun to increase speed. The new proposed limit will restrict them to their present average of about 16knots. Previously they travelled at up to 24 knots.

But the biggest impact would be on the cruise industry, where ships average speeds of about 15 knots and a top speed of 22 knots.

In some countries, cruise ships already have an enforced speed limit – in Canada, it’s to protect whales from ships strikes and in the Norwegian fjords to reduce pollution.

The French proposal, which would introduce the first limits in international waters, says that “speed reduction leads to a significant emissions reduction and it can be implemented quickly: it is the only measure that requires little or no technical adaptation of the ships”.

 

A spokesperson from Carnival Corporation in the United Kingdom said it would be following the debate closely. The spokeswoman said it already aimed to achieve the “optimum speed between one port and another for maximum guest comfort and efficiency of fuel and also making the best use of the time in port for guest experience”. It declined to say how much fuel it used per passenger.

[Chiliburn]

2 hours ago, bl262000 said:

Hello, I am one who has been affected by this change....I am def moving cabins as Brilliance doesn't have my cabin number....

Anyways, come someone explain the "new speed regulation" etc ie these ships have been cruising around for a while and now there too fast?

 

 

Thanks

The speed regulation is a bit of a mystery?{

[MicCanberra]

55 minutes ago, Chiliburn said:

The speed regulation is a bit of a mystery?{

Not really, the explanation is fairly straightforward, do not exceed the speed limits in certain waters. For some ships cruising at these speeds is more costly, for others it is not, as they are more efficient.

[bl262000]

Thanks MicCanberra,

So its a speed limit to reduce emissions based on a ships efficiency? so the more efficient means a higher regulated speed therefore more of a perceptual achievement of expected itineraries?

So in this case (Assuming based on the up coming French / New Caledonian restrictions) Brilliance is more efficient at 15knt than Enchantment at 15knts so Brilliance will start cruising around New Caledonia while Enchantment just potters around?

 

Thanks

 

 

[MicCanberra]

14 minutes ago, bl262000 said:

Thanks MicCanberra,

So its a speed limit to reduce emissions based on a ships efficiency? so the more efficient means a higher regulated speed therefore more of a perceptual achievement of expected itineraries?

So in this case (Assuming based on the up coming French / New Caledonian restrictions) Brilliance is more efficient at 15knt than Enchantment at 15knts so Brilliance will start cruising around New Caledonia while Enchantment just potters around?

 

Thanks

 

 

More or less the just as I read it.

[Chiliburn]

2 hours ago, bl262000 said:

Thanks MicCanberra,

So its a speed limit to reduce emissions based on a ships efficiency? so the more efficient means a higher regulated speed therefore more of a perceptual achievement of expected itineraries?

So in this case (Assuming based on the up coming French / New Caledonian restrictions) Brilliance is more efficient at 15knt than Enchantment at 15knts so Brilliance will start cruising around New Caledonia while Enchantment just potters around?

 

Thanks

 

 

I find it a bit hard to swallow my self.

I’m sure there’s a new legislation but I think it’s more to do with enchantment being unpopular .

They also swapped voyager for adventure in Galveston because of the same reason.

Surely there can’t be that much difference in 2 almost identical ships.

 

[MicCanberra]

Of course there may also be demand driven decisions on ship movement but that happens all the time, although it is not usually swaps like in most of the case here.

[Chiliburn]

I think they are using the same Royal maths to calculate the speed and fuel burn as they use to calculate their sales.
The answer to the equation is what suits Royal Caribbean best.

 

Their drinks package was on sale a while ago, second person got 40% off.

Full price was about $145 while one person could get it on special for about $100.
 

But if you got the BOGO 40% off it worked out at $120 per person for the 2 people.
Now that’s Royal maths. 
 

 

Edited August 1, 2022 by Chiliburn