ImperialLady Posted August 21, 2022 #1 Share Posted August 21, 2022 Has anyone ever used a letter of recovery? My DIL was diagnosed with Covid last Tuesday. Today is her 5th day of isolation. She now needs to wear a mask for the next 5 days. We sail on Sunday on the Discovery. We know she can continue to test positive for weeks or even several months. Her Doctor is writing a letter of Recovery for her. Below is what is on Princess website. Any idea what a secondary screening is and is there a person from the medical staff at the terminal? Thanks, as usual I so appreciate all the people on CC who answer questions.🤩 Guests who have recovered from COVID-19 within three months from the date of their cruise departure or cruisetour departure (whichever starts first) do not need to take a viral test before embarkation if they are at least 10 days past their COVID-19 infection, have no symptoms and produce documentation of recovery from COVID-19. Documentation of recovery consists of the following: Paper or electronic copies of the positive viral test result from a certified laboratory (dated no more than 90 days ago) or A valid digital COVID-19 certificate (DCC) or a document issued by an official health or government authority showing confirmed previous infection Guests who present these documents will need to go through a secondary screening at the terminal, and boarding will be approved at the medical staff’s discretion. Guests who are unable to provide documentation of recovery that fulfills the above requirements must take the required COVID-19 viral test and show a negative result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare PacnGoNow Posted August 21, 2022 #2 Share Posted August 21, 2022 15 minutes ago, ImperialLady said: Has anyone ever used a letter of recovery? My DIL was diagnosed with Covid last Tuesday. Today is her 5th day of isolation. She now needs to wear a mask for the next 5 days. We sail on Sunday on the Discovery. We know she can continue to test positive for weeks or even several months. Her Doctor is writing a letter of Recovery for her. Below is what is on Princess website. Any idea what a secondary screening is and is there a person from the medical staff at the terminal? Thanks, as usual I so appreciate all the people on CC who answer questions.🤩 Guests who have recovered from COVID-19 within three months from the date of their cruise departure or cruisetour departure (whichever starts first) do not need to take a viral test before embarkation if they are at least 10 days past their COVID-19 infection, have no symptoms and produce documentation of recovery from COVID-19. Documentation of recovery consists of the following: Paper or electronic copies of the positive viral test result from a certified laboratory (dated no more than 90 days ago) or A valid digital COVID-19 certificate (DCC) or a document issued by an official health or government authority showing confirmed previous infection Guests who present these documents will need to go through a secondary screening at the terminal, and boarding will be approved at the medical staff’s discretion. Guests who are unable to provide documentation of recovery that fulfills the above requirements must take the required COVID-19 viral test and show a negative result. I have not read of anyone who had a secondary screening. I would say, if they presented with symptoms, they would probably get a screening. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImperialLady Posted August 21, 2022 Author #3 Share Posted August 21, 2022 9 minutes ago, PacnGoNow said: I have not read of anyone who had a secondary screening. I would say, if they presented with symptoms, they would probably get a screening. She originally thought she had a sinus infection and decided to test just in case. She tested positive at home and then went to Urgent Care for a confirmation test. Today she feels a lot better but still sounds stuffy and still tested positive.🤔 I was wondering what a secondary screening would consist of. I hadn't been able to find any info on it. I have been reading everything I could find and like you couldn't find anyone who has a second screening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare PacnGoNow Posted August 21, 2022 #4 Share Posted August 21, 2022 15 minutes ago, ImperialLady said: She originally thought she had a sinus infection and decided to test just in case. She tested positive at home and then went to Urgent Care for a confirmation test. Today she feels a lot better but still sounds stuffy and still tested positive.🤔 I was wondering what a secondary screening would consist of. I hadn't been able to find any info on it. I have been reading everything I could find and like you couldn't find anyone who has a second screening. So, she is well covered with a test positive from Urgent care and a recovery letter from her Doctor. I wouldn’t worry about it. I have never seen anyone at the Port screened either. They just asked people in front of us to see their test results or to see their recovery letter. That was it. Maybe someone will chime in, if they have gone through this? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare fpsphil Posted August 21, 2022 #5 Share Posted August 21, 2022 Just go with the letter the port staff barely glance at any paperwork when boarding. Especially with the rules changing most will accept it and move on now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImperialLady Posted August 21, 2022 Author #6 Share Posted August 21, 2022 36 minutes ago, PacnGoNow said: So, she is well covered with a test positive from Urgent care and a recovery letter from her Doctor. I wouldn’t worry about it. I have never seen anyone at the Port screened either. They just asked people in front of us to see their test results or to see their recovery letter. That was it. Maybe someone will chime in, if they have gone through this? The bolded above gives me hope that all will be OK! Thanks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImperialLady Posted August 21, 2022 Author #7 Share Posted August 21, 2022 11 minutes ago, fpsphil said: Just go with the letter the port staff barely glance at any paperwork when boarding. Especially with the rules changing most will accept it and move on now Got our fingers crossed for sure. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muffin Posted August 21, 2022 #8 Share Posted August 21, 2022 we did this in Vancouver. The secondary screening was simply affirmation you did not present with any symptoms…a chat with a nurse. Our only problem was with the same nurse saying we need BOTH proofs of recovery mentioned in L ink # 2 on this site, quoted from Princess website. We pointed out the tiny word OR at the end of the first requirement meaning we did not need Both! This was early in the season, and I think we may have been the first recovered people they had met with positive tests of Covid between 10 and 90 days. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelers36 Posted August 21, 2022 #9 Share Posted August 21, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, ImperialLady said: She originally thought she had a sinus infection and decided to test just in case. She tested positive at home and then went to Urgent Care for a confirmation test. Today she feels a lot better but still sounds stuffy and still tested positive.🤔 I was wondering what a secondary screening would consist of. I hadn't been able to find any info on it. I have been reading everything I could find and like you couldn't find anyone who has a second screening. An on-the-spot Covid test (at most) as well as some questions (at least) I expect. Edited August 21, 2022 by Steelers36 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImperialLady Posted August 21, 2022 Author #10 Share Posted August 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, Steelers36 said: An on-the-spot Covid test (at most) as well as some questions (at least) I expect. Wonder what they would do if she still tested positive on an on the spot test even with the letter and no symptoms🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldubs Posted August 21, 2022 #11 Share Posted August 21, 2022 (edited) We used the DOR for a Carnival cruise. I figured a secondary screening would likely involve taking my temp. We were sent to a desk with ship med staff. They looked at the letter from our doctor and the positive test results, put a stamp on it and sent us on our way. In addition to the doctor's note, make sure you have documentation off the positive test (between 10 & 90 days). Can't say how Princess might be any different. Edited August 21, 2022 by ldubs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldubs Posted August 21, 2022 #12 Share Posted August 21, 2022 14 minutes ago, ImperialLady said: Wonder what they would do if she still tested positive on an on the spot test even with the letter and no symptoms🤔 I think the whole point of the DOR is that folks will continue to test positive. That is why the DOR process exists. But, as outlined in the rules, a DOR can only be used if there are not symptoms. I suppose if someone displayed symptoms, they might do an on the spot antigen test. But just a guess on my part. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelers36 Posted August 21, 2022 #13 Share Posted August 21, 2022 18 minutes ago, ImperialLady said: Wonder what they would do if she still tested positive on an on the spot test even with the letter and no symptoms🤔 There is probably no test as others have recently posted. Looks like all they really need is the documented recovery and the onus is not on them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImperialLady Posted August 21, 2022 Author #14 Share Posted August 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, ldubs said: We used the DOC for a Carnival cruise. I figured a secondary screening would likely involve taking my temp. We were sent to a desk with ship med staff. They looked at the letter from our doctor and the positive test results, put a stamp on it and sent us on our way. In addition to the doctor's note, make sure you have documentation off the positive test (between 10 & 90 days). Can't say how Princess might be any different. OK thanks for that re: the documentation of the postive test. I will make sure she gets that if she doesn't have it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare PacnGoNow Posted August 21, 2022 #15 Share Posted August 21, 2022 28 minutes ago, ImperialLady said: Wonder what they would do if she still tested positive on an on the spot test even with the letter and no symptoms🤔 That’s why your asked for a recovery letter, because you could still test positive for 90 days. That shouldn’t matter, unless she is sick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedferg Posted August 21, 2022 #16 Share Posted August 21, 2022 Agree with above responses, DOR from Dr. should be enough. I tested positive with home test, very mild symptoms. I tried to get a confirmation test at Kaiser, but they would not schedule it since I had symptoms and tested positive. My Kaiser Dr. wrote me a recovery letter. Our next cruise is Sep 20. , so I have not needed to use DOR. A test at the pier makes no sense, the DOR is because one can test positive after recovery, especially with PCR. I tested posit for 12 days or more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImperialLady Posted August 21, 2022 Author #17 Share Posted August 21, 2022 41 minutes ago, Tedferg said: Agree with above responses, DOR from Dr. should be enough. I tested positive with home test, very mild symptoms. I tried to get a confirmation test at Kaiser, but they would not schedule it since I had symptoms and tested positive. My Kaiser Dr. wrote me a recovery letter. Our next cruise is Sep 20. , so I have not needed to use DOR. A test at the pier makes no sense, the DOR is because one can test positive after recovery, especially with PCR. I tested posit for 12 days or more. Thanks to all for your responses. It is much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImperialLady Posted August 21, 2022 Author #18 Share Posted August 21, 2022 49 minutes ago, PacnGoNow said: That’s why your asked for a recovery letter, because you could still test positive for 90 days. That shouldn’t matter, unless she is sick. Thanks...she is feeling good and so glad to be out of the basement! LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tutumomickey Posted August 21, 2022 #19 Share Posted August 21, 2022 I would just have her take an antigen test a day or two before boarding. Chances are 99% she will already test negative. Everyone in my family has tested negative by day 3 of isolation, regardless of symptoms. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImperialLady Posted August 21, 2022 Author #20 Share Posted August 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, tutumomickey said: I would just have her take an antigen test a day or two before boarding. Chances are 99% she will already test negative. Everyone in my family has tested negative by day 3 of isolation, regardless of symptoms. thanks...she will take an antigen test on Friday (we leave Friday evening for Seattle)...we are hoping for a negative test.🤞 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasGuy75219 Posted August 22, 2022 #21 Share Posted August 22, 2022 5 hours ago, ImperialLady said: Wonder what they would do if she still tested positive on an on the spot test even with the letter and no symptoms🤔 PCR or Antigen test? If you're still testing positive with an antigen test, you're likely still contagious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImperialLady Posted August 22, 2022 Author #22 Share Posted August 22, 2022 16 minutes ago, DallasGuy75219 said: PCR or Antigen test? If you're still testing positive with an antigen test, you're likely still contagious. The doctor said even with an antigen test a person can test positve for weeks after the initial period of 5 days isolation and 5 day masked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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