otownfins Posted October 28, 2022 #1 Share Posted October 28, 2022 I don’t know if this is something Celebrity has just started but I haven’t seen anyone else post this before. We have an upcoming cruise and made a bid through the MoveUp process. I just learned from another cruiser they got an email from Celebrity letting them know they can make a bid that in essence allows them to outbid other cruisers that made bids thru MoveUp. The 3rd party handling this is https://www.plusgrade.com/ i think this is very misleading and conflicting to the MoveUp program. At least Celebrity should allow all cruisers the same opportunity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHEZMARYLOU Posted October 28, 2022 #2 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Just a bit confused. Are you saying the bid you made was made known to other cruisers so that they could bid more than you? Or did other cruisers also get an email offer for them to bid, which is standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otownfins Posted October 28, 2022 Author #3 Share Posted October 28, 2022 From what I understand Celebrity starts with MoveUp and then sends out targeted emails that allows other cruises to outbid the offers Celebrity has received thru MoveUp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clampsa Posted October 28, 2022 #4 Share Posted October 28, 2022 30 minutes ago, otownfins said: I don’t know if this is something Celebrity has just started but I haven’t seen anyone else post this before. We have an upcoming cruise and made a bid through the MoveUp process. I just learned from another cruiser they got an email from Celebrity letting them know they can make a bid that in essence allows them to outbid other cruisers that made bids thru MoveUp. The 3rd party handling this is https://www.plusgrade.com/ i think this is very misleading and conflicting to the MoveUp program. At least Celebrity should allow all cruisers the same opportunity. I’ve seen this. Our bid was “frozen” as pending while the other bids were expired. And then another person on our cruise got an email saying that they could bid on the same upgrade and that 5 others were bidding and they had been outbid. So a more real time bidding process like EBay where as our bid is now frozen we can’t cancel or modify it. I think this might be what is happening in the 4-5 days that people talk about when their bid is frozen??? Super weird and annoying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimboriffic Posted October 29, 2022 #5 Share Posted October 29, 2022 I cruised two months ago. Mine said pending and low and behold I got it! I saw the charge go through before I was notified. It was so special! Seven glorious days in the penthouse suite on the Edge. My only complaint is the next time I cruise I will miss my suite! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare NutsAboutGolf Posted October 29, 2022 #6 Share Posted October 29, 2022 Would love to see an email of this. If true, while it's a bit shady, it isn't all that surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mtempelaar Posted October 29, 2022 #7 Share Posted October 29, 2022 9 minutes ago, NutsAboutGolf said: Would love to see an email of this. If true, while it's a bit shady, it isn't all that surprising. This is what I got for AQ SkySuite bid. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare NutsAboutGolf Posted October 29, 2022 #8 Share Posted October 29, 2022 1 minute ago, mtempelaar said: This is what I got for AQ SkySuite bid. Thanks! Would mind sharing what Captains Clubs level you are? Just curious if those with higher status are the ones "targeted". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare prmssk Posted October 29, 2022 #9 Share Posted October 29, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, mtempelaar said: This is what I got for AQ SkySuite bid. To me, this just looks like a marketing scheme to try and get people who have already made bids to bid more. Edited October 29, 2022 by prmssk 13 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mtempelaar Posted October 29, 2022 #10 Share Posted October 29, 2022 11 minutes ago, prmssk said: To me, this just looks like a marketing scheme to try and get people who have already made bids to bid more. That is exactly what I was thinking. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimboriffic Posted October 29, 2022 #11 Share Posted October 29, 2022 Wow… that’s a shame. I don’t mind them trying to make a profit since they had a couple of bad years with Covid….but that really takes the fun out of it. I never got an email like that but I did bid just above what they suggested in the first email. I am close to elite plus in points and diamond on RCCL. There is a lot of speculation on how they decide to chose who to upgrade. I’m not sure anyone knows.I just decided what I was willing to pay and stuck with it. Also, I went from a suite class to a better suite class. My brother made a bid and he was in a very inexpensive room. He probably could have paid the same price if he had chosen a better room originally. Also, I was notified a full 3 weeks before my Italy and Greece cruise. Not a few days before which is how I thought it would go. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mtempelaar Posted October 29, 2022 #12 Share Posted October 29, 2022 14 minutes ago, NutsAboutGolf said: Thanks! Would mind sharing what Captains Clubs level you are? Just curious if those with higher status are the ones "targeted". I am Classic. Should be select after our cruise in Nov. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Airbalancer Posted October 29, 2022 #13 Share Posted October 29, 2022 If I bet on a cabin I usually just put in the minimum amount as we are usually happy with the cabin we have already 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare NutsAboutGolf Posted October 29, 2022 #14 Share Posted October 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, prmssk said: To me, this just looks like a marketing scheme to try and get people who have already made bids to bid more. Great point. Will be very difficult to determine if it's an actual scheme (will win with your current bid) or if its legit (will lose if you don't increase your bid). Regardless, I'd imagine this email is very effective with getting people to increase their bids. The OP and one other are claiming they didn't receive this "outbid" targeted email. My WAG (Wild A$$ Guess) is if it was a scheme it would go out to everyone yet this doesn't appear to be the case; therefore who is X targeting with these emails? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare NutsAboutGolf Posted October 29, 2022 #15 Share Posted October 29, 2022 1 minute ago, mtempelaar said: I am Classic. Should be select after our cruise in Nov. Thanks; this essentially means they're not targeting those with high CC status 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremiah1212 Posted October 29, 2022 #16 Share Posted October 29, 2022 It’s effectively letting you know you have no chance. If you bid $50 and they already have a full slate of $200 bids, you stand no chance and that is what it is. So if you want a realistic chance, pay more. Would you rather know immediately or wait 60 days to find out you didn’t get the upgrade? 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare crusinthrough Posted October 29, 2022 #17 Share Posted October 29, 2022 I agree with marketing. It's no difference than the silly meter on the right side that indicates if your bid is weak or strong. Bid what your are willing to pay and move on. If you win great if not there is nothing lost. People get caught up in winning a bid and thinking they are getting a great discount by booking a less expensive room and winning a bid. The reality is Celebrity is a business to make money and not giving anything away. I bet more than half of the winning bids are overbids. Some people bid more than what they would have paid if they called and upgraded the room at prevailing rates. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clampsa Posted October 29, 2022 #18 Share Posted October 29, 2022 43 minutes ago, Jeremiah1212 said: It’s effectively letting you know you have no chance. If you bid $50 and they already have a full slate of $200 bids, you stand no chance and that is what it is. So if you want a realistic chance, pay more. Would you rather know immediately or wait 60 days to find out you didn’t get the upgrade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clampsa Posted October 29, 2022 #19 Share Posted October 29, 2022 (edited) Yeah i get that for the bidder of this email. But what about the people that bid and don’t get this email but rather get that weird little meter and then get locked out. I would think that those people (who presumably actually got the option to upgrade earlier ?) should also get the the right of first refusal at least on the off chance that someone outbids their offer. Simply saying that its not an even playing field. Edited October 29, 2022 by clampsa 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clampsa Posted October 29, 2022 #20 Share Posted October 29, 2022 Yeah i get that for the bidder of this email. But what about the people that bid and don’t get this email but rather get that weird little meter and then get locked out. I would think that those people (who presumably actually got the option to upgrade earlier ?) should also get the the right of first refusal at least on the off chance that someone outbids their offer. Simply saying that its not an even playing field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichYak Posted October 29, 2022 #21 Share Posted October 29, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, clampsa said: Simply saying that its not an even playing field. The intention of the bidding process is not to promote fairness, it's to maximize revenue. There's also no guarantee that the process was fair prior to this new wrinkle. Edited October 29, 2022 by RichYak 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mtempelaar Posted October 29, 2022 #22 Share Posted October 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, RichYak said: The intention of the bidding process is not to maximize fairness, it's to maximize revenue. There's also no guarantee that the process was fair prior to this new wrinkle. I sincerely doubt it was/is fair, otherwise there wouldn’t be multipliers based on status. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare crusinthrough Posted October 29, 2022 #23 Share Posted October 29, 2022 37 minutes ago, clampsa said: Simply saying that its not an even playing field. Like any other game you win by giving it your all or bidding the max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichYak Posted October 29, 2022 #24 Share Posted October 29, 2022 1 minute ago, crusinthrough said: Like any other game you win by giving it your all or bidding the max. Sometimes you win by not playing their game. It all depends. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Wildcat Posted October 29, 2022 #25 Share Posted October 29, 2022 If you think the email about raising your bid is wrong then let Celebrity executive office know. I personally buy a cabin where I will be happy and bid if I might snag a bargain. The problem is are all underbidders sent an email giving them the choice to bid again? What does pending really mean? FWIW won two bids. Did not win one other. Have never had a bid shown as pending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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