HUNKY Posted May 4, 2023 #1 Share Posted May 4, 2023 Just read that MSC Seaside failed their latest CDC inspection. 67 out of 100, the fourth lowest score in the past twenty years of all CDC inspections. UGH! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tom-n-Cheryl Posted May 4, 2023 #2 Share Posted May 4, 2023 40 minutes ago, HUNKY said: Just read that MSC Seaside failed their latest CDC inspection. 67 out of 100, the fourth lowest score in the past twenty years of all CDC inspections. UGH! Eventually, corporate policies (management structure/style) and/or being too short staffed will catch up with you... Agreed though... UGH !!! What does a failure mean (from a guest and crew standpoint), and I assume they'll be fast tracked for a follow-up? Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare GPPhilly Posted May 4, 2023 #3 Share Posted May 4, 2023 52 minutes ago, HUNKY said: Just read that MSC Seaside failed their latest CDC inspection. 67 out of 100, the fourth lowest score in the past twenty years of all CDC inspections. UGH! This is quite concerning as it is a utter disaster for MSC. They might not feel it is but if this gets publicized more it could be bad for them. MSC needs to get on this and get more staff on this ship. In reading the report, a lot seems to do with a lack of staff. They need to self correct and get that grade up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipgeeks Posted May 4, 2023 #4 Share Posted May 4, 2023 Any more details on what areas scored low on the inspection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelleherdl Posted May 4, 2023 #5 Share Posted May 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Tom-n-Cheryl said: Eventually, corporate policies (management structure/style) and/or being too short staffed will catch up with you... Agreed though... UGH !!! What does a failure mean (from a guest and crew standpoint), and I assume they'll be fast tracked for a follow-up? Tom Too long out of the US, too long between inspections. The Health and Safety Officer clearly did not have the staff prepared to return to US sailings and the scrutiny of the CDC. So much of this report was stuff you would expect to see in a poorly maintained hospitality/food service operation ashore; inexcusable on a cruise ship. It will be interesting to read the Corrective Report from Seaside when it’s posted on the CDC website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Até Posted May 4, 2023 #6 Share Posted May 4, 2023 (edited) Inspection Detail Report.pdf Edited May 4, 2023 by Até Formatting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elkins45 Posted May 4, 2023 #7 Share Posted May 4, 2023 My wife and I are scheduled to cruise on this ship in October. It’s her first MSC cruise. I suppose I’d better stock up on Imodium. https://www.cruiselawnews.com/2023/05/articles/disease/msc-seaside-flunks-usph-health-inspection-with-score-of-67/ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare morpheusofthesea Posted May 4, 2023 #8 Share Posted May 4, 2023 Stunning. Although there are 43 item numbers, there were multiple violations per item totaling 104 violations to code. https://wwwn.cdc.gov/InspectionQueryTool/InspectionDetailReport.aspx?ColI=MjEyNjA0NTY%3d-a9ov%2by%2b%2f%2bqU%3d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elkins45 Posted May 5, 2023 #9 Share Posted May 5, 2023 (edited) “Such a low score is virtually unheard of.” That’s not a phrase you like to read about your upcoming cruise. Edited May 5, 2023 by Elkins45 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoeyVictoria Posted May 5, 2023 #10 Share Posted May 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Elkins45 said: My wife and I are scheduled to cruise on this ship in October. It’s her first MSC cruise. I suppose I’d better stock up on Imodium. https://www.cruiselawnews.com/2023/05/articles/disease/msc-seaside-flunks-usph-health-inspection-with-score-of-67/ We are scheduled to be on the ship on Sunday 😢. I will not count on boarding the ship at the usual time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare B_A_H Posted May 5, 2023 #11 Share Posted May 5, 2023 If ships work like hotels, the Head Chef is responsible for every element of the kitchen. Hopefully who ever s/he is on the Seaside doesn't represent the same lack of operational discipline on other MSC ships. If other ships get a similar rating MSC will have a bunch of work ahead of them and PR damage to clean up (no pun intended). I did laugh where it said "MSC didn't respond to the report." That's not a shock to those of us who travel with them frequently and have to deal with their shambolic processes and half ass answers; if they answer at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoeyVictoria Posted May 5, 2023 #12 Share Posted May 5, 2023 What will happen next? We are supposed to sail on the Seaside this Sunday, May 7. My guess is that there will be another inspection that day and we can count on a delayed embarkation. What are the chances of the cruise being canceled while there is some intense training and cleaning being done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Até Posted May 5, 2023 #13 Share Posted May 5, 2023 Seaside will continue to sail, a No Sail Request/Order would take a continuing issue that threatens health or safety of passengers or crew, e.g. last year when Margaritaville at Sea got delayed a day or so. Most issues are addressed immediately. There will be another unannounced inspection soon, in the meantime crew will be tired from a lot of extra preparation work. https://www.cdc.gov/nceh/vsp/desc/about_inspections.htm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clemsonlori98 Posted May 5, 2023 #14 Share Posted May 5, 2023 Looks like the last time the Seaside was inspected was 2/23/2019? I would think it would be a yearly thing?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Até Posted May 5, 2023 #15 Share Posted May 5, 2023 Ships are subject to these inspections twice per year - only if they are stopping in US ports. Seaside only recently returned to Port Canaveral when Meraviglia left to New York. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoeyVictoria Posted May 5, 2023 #16 Share Posted May 5, 2023 It seems to me that repairing the dishwashers and getting dirty dishes out of the way would make a huge difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Line Posted May 5, 2023 #17 Share Posted May 5, 2023 They also surprisingly didn't file a corrective action report showing what they will do to prevent this in the future or argue the specific violation was unjust/incorrect. I will keep an eye out for other MSC ships making US port calls and their inspections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homosassa Posted May 5, 2023 #18 Share Posted May 5, 2023 As someone who spent years reviewing field reports from field inspectors, I would be recommending that perhaps the (PHS officer?) inspector needs some training on how to report the observations made on the ship. Many of the violations are reported several different ways (I'll get you, my Pretty, and your little dog, too" style of reporting) and could have appeared only once. There is probably some phone lines buzzing between the headquarter reviewing office, the field office and MSC. Seaside will continue sailing. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzieanna Posted May 5, 2023 #19 Share Posted May 5, 2023 Why are there so many coffee machines hidden in lockers? What an uncomfortable read 😞 However, I believe the best time to get on a ship is after such an inspection. She will be cleaned to within an inch of her life I would guess!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare DCGuy64 Posted May 5, 2023 #20 Share Posted May 5, 2023 The report is very interesting to read. Some of the issues are bad (melons and chicken being stored at unacceptably high temperatures - both immediately corrected, FYI), while others are kind of silly. (lack of a depth indicator for the pool? Come on!) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare morpheusofthesea Posted May 5, 2023 #21 Share Posted May 5, 2023 9 minutes ago, DCGuy64 said: (lack of a depth indicator for the pool? Come on!) Yea, only a 'dimwit' would dive into a pool head first. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tom-n-Cheryl Posted May 5, 2023 #22 Share Posted May 5, 2023 10 minutes ago, morpheusofthesea said: Yea, only a 'dimwit' would dive into a pool head first. Well, if they weren't "dim" to begin with, one shallow dive might do the trick... Tom 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homosassa Posted May 5, 2023 #23 Share Posted May 5, 2023 36 minutes ago, DCGuy64 said: while others are kind of silly. (lack of a depth indicator for the pool? Hence my post about reporting in this inspection. It can take a while to develop the commonsense known as regulatory discretion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare DCGuy64 Posted May 5, 2023 #24 Share Posted May 5, 2023 23 minutes ago, Tom-n-Cheryl said: Well, if they weren't "dim" to begin with, one shallow dive might do the trick... Tom For some reason this calls to mind something that apparently happened either on the Seaside or another MSC ship. The ship was designed for the American market but built in Europe, so the marker for the deep end had been painted something like "5 feet 12 inches." 😆 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmbcater Posted May 5, 2023 #25 Share Posted May 5, 2023 This will be corrected ASAP as angry execs will enforce actions! I guarantee there will be a new PHS officer on that ship! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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