Poll: Should cabins/balconies be all smoking cabins/balconies?

[vjmatty]

You may not be getting some votes because you omitted a choice to make all ships non-smoking.

:eek: ALL ships? Why in the world would you want to eliminate smoking on a ship you have no intention of sailing? Why do you care if a ship is designated smoking, can't you just not board that ship?

 

This reminds me of those who object to certain programming on TV because they forget what the channel button is for :(

[magicolor_girl]

Westin was the hotel that has banned smoking ... last time I stayed in one, I was told there would be a $250 "cleaning fee" if I lit up while in the room.

 

As I sit at the desk in my Courtyard by Marriott room, there is a sign on the desk stating "This hotel is now a 100% smoke free environment. A $250 Room Recovery fee will be charged for smoking in your guestroom. A designated outdoor smoking area is available. Please contact a hotel associate for the location."

 

I am a non smoker and I do not like the smell of stale smoke in a hotel room or club, nor do I like to carry that smell with me after being in a smoking environment. An outdoor smoking area is good enough for me, especially if they make it out of the way so anyone just wandering outside won't be bombarded by a cloud of smoke as they go out the door. On cruise ships, I think smoking should not be allowed in cabins or on balconies, leaving only a designated area on an open deck as the official smoking area. Thusly people who do not wish to deal with the smoke can avoid that area, not have to deal with a stale smoke stinky room, and not have their balcony time ruined by a neighbor.

 

I don't care if people smoke but I don't want to have to deal with it. I agree with the numerous people who have stated that smoking infringes upon the nonsmoking, while the nonsmoking do nothing to infringe on smokers.

[Erie Dave]

Finally the voice of reason!

Hey JC!

[Melissa at Mohair Meadows]

if something is offensive, to politely ask the person if they would stop.

 

What is wrong with asking someone who is smoking on a balcony if they could a) stop while you were there b) direct the smoke elsewhere?

 

I have done this and it works. PS - I am a non-smoker.

[vjmatty]

Everybody sing with me...

 

Puff the magic dragon, smoked on the sea...

[massfriends]

Just an observation. 1,587 views and only 310 votes. ???

Something seems wrong to me.

[reallyitsmema]

Just an observation. 1,587 views and only 310 votes. ???

Something seems wrong to me.

Not really, it just means each person has viewed the thread an average of around 5 times.

[perkyblue]

if something is offensive, to politely ask the person if they would stop.

 

What is wrong with asking someone who is smoking on a balcony if they could a) stop while you were there b) direct the smoke elsewhere?

 

I have done this and it works. PS - I am a non-smoker.

 

This would be a good idea if you could count on everyone around you being considerate and sensible. I'm sure that most smokers would be polite, but knowing my luck, I'd be next to the jerk who then thought it was funny to smoke on his balcony as much as possible just to aggravate me! That's why I keep my mouth shut.

 

Besides that, I REALLY wish that smoking were not allowed on balconies, but as long as it's allowed, I would feel awkward asking someone to stop doing something they're allowed to do. But I don't hesitate to kick kids out of the adults-only pool, because they're clearly breaking a rule.

[bankr Mike]

If you sell out of either side, it would be a business disaster to turn away paying customers just because you didn't have their type of cabin available.

 

Not true. Non-smokers would then simply have the same choice they now have--stay in some cabin where the prior occupant was a smoker. It's all about the market. There is no reason it works in virtually every hotel in the world, but would not work on a ship.

[Cruisin' Ya Ya]

My last cruise on Voyager, my sister was in the cabin next to me and she smoked on the balcony and it did not bother me. I guess her room was down wind. I can tolerate cigarette smoke, but cigars are a whole other thing. Smoking should be restricted to balconies, but will never happen.

[DC2OC]

I think they should make all inside and oceanview cabins nonsmoking and the balcony cabins smoking. That way almost all of the cabins would be for the non smokers which should make them happy.

 

hey why not make all inside cabins smoking.Think about all the money the smokers could save for the casino by enjoying their own second hand smoke:D

[rolloman]

Twice in this thread there have been references to "smoke allergies".

 

Cigarette smoke is NOT an allergen. There is no protein present in cigarette smoke. In order for something to be an allergen, there must be a protein present.

 

Cigarette smoke IS an irritant, to be sure, and can cause reactions (NOT ALLERGIC REACTIONS!) to those with respiratory problems.

 

The US Surgeon General has stated that while extremely rare, smoke allergies have been diagnosed. These are not "Cigarette smoke" allergies, just generic smoke allergies. This occurs in about .0001% of the population. That's about 280 people nationwide.

 

Now, given that this particular allergy is nearly always part of a much larger immune system deficiency, those afflicted with it rarely live to make it out of the neonatal ICU. Any that do are relegated to a "Plastic Bubble"-type existence. How many people have you seen on cruises wearing their plastic bubble on formal night?

 

I know, some of you don't believe me because someone once told you that you were "allergic to smoke". Well then, call your doctor. Or your allergist. Or someone with access to some mind-bending modern website that can search billions of documents in nanoseconds just by entering a few keywords. You know, like Google.

 

Sorry all, I just can't stand the misuse of medical terminology. I'm not at all saying that there aren't perfectly legitmate health reasons for some people to avoid secondhand smoke. There are.

 

But allergic ain't one of 'em.

 

Impress us with your vast medical knowledge? I think everyone knows what I was referring to. So the word allergy is the wrong term? Good for you, now solve the world peace issue. Headaches, sinus issues, lack of sleep, these are the symptoms a stale smoky aroma in a room cause me personally. Out of 17 cruises, only once did I ever have an issue and it was recently on the Mariner. They fixed it for me. I vote no smoking in cabins period, it is a fire hazard as well as a health issue. Ask the people on the Star Princess.

[yogimax]

Just a prediction....

 

By July 1, 2007, one major cruise line will announce that it offers the option of no-smoking cabins.

[happysinglemom]

I would prefer a non-smoking ship altogether.:cool:

[happysinglemom]

Question #4 should have been

 

Are all of you that want smoking banned in all cabins and balconies ready to pay an increase of 25 to 30% IMMEDIATELY in your base fare to make up for lost revenue..........if not........then you can't vote yes on #3:)

 

And by the way.........I didn't vote.........but I understand the economics of a public company

 

I live in a resort town...and we just had 6 or 7 beachfront restaurants all go NONSMOKING, voluntarily. Completely. And these are VERY popular restaurants, especially on weekend nights. Guess what? Every single one has had an INCREASE in business. :rolleyes: I am ecstatic. That is the one thing that I disliked about going to these places...they were too smoky to enjoy dinner.

[yogimax]

I would prefer a non-smoking ship altogether.:cool:

 

HSM - I agree. Eventually, it will come.

 

Thirty years ago, who would have ever thought that airplanes would be totally non-smoking?

 

Five years ago, who would have ever thought that restaurants in major cities would be totally non-smoking?

 

Two years ago, who would have ever thought that bars in major cities would be totally non-smoking?

 

One year ago, who would have ever thought that casinos in Atlantic City would be largely non-smoking?

 

Thank God, the trend is to non-smoking ships. As Northwest Airlines led the non-smoking movement for airlines, who will have the smarts to begin it in the cruise industry?

[Cruising89143]

I know that when I cruised on the Norway back in 94, we had the option when booking for either a smoking or non-smoking cabin. Not sure how long this lasted with NCL as that was the last time that I cruised with them but I know that they did away with the option. Not sure why but I guess it did not work.

[Sue L]

HSM - I agree. Eventually, it will come.

 

Thirty years ago, who would have ever thought that airplanes would be totally non-smoking?

 

Five years ago, who would have ever thought that restaurants in major cities would be totally non-smoking?

 

Two years ago, who would have ever thought that bars in major cities would be totally non-smoking?

 

One year ago, who would have ever thought that casinos in Atlantic City would be largely non-smoking?

 

Thank God, the trend is to non-smoking ships. As Northwest Airlines led the non-smoking movement for airlines, who will have the smarts to begin it in the cruise industry?

 

 

All your examples while true are all short term deprivations, when you go to dinner it is for an hour or two not 7 + days. And if you are really desperate you can walk outside of the restaurant. How would you do that on a ship? Wait until you get to port? Not going to happen because the smokers would stop cruising and the failure of Carnival Paradise already shows it didn't work.

[yogimax]

All your examples while true are all short term deprivations, when you go to dinner it is for an hour or two not 7 + days. And if you are really desperate you can walk outside of the restaurant. How would you do that on a ship? Wait until you get to port? Not going to happen because the smokers would stop cruising and the failure of Carnival Paradise already shows it didn't work.

 

Of course, smokers will still be allowed to smoke on certain outside decks. That's a given. I'm talking about interior areas.

 

The constant references to the Paradise are also meaningless since it was, in essence, created to fail. One ship - same itinerary - over and over again. Nope, it's not a good example

[Sue L]

Of course, smokers will still be allowed to smoke on certain outside decks. That's a given. I'm talking about interior areas.

 

The constant references to the Paradise are also meaningless since it was, in essence, created to fail. One ship - same itinerary - over and over again. Nope, it's not a good example

 

 

If some designated areas were set up it would maybe work and it will probably come to that. Also if the Paradise was so good and was sailing full each week then it would have caught on and they would have extended to the policy to more ships, didn't happen because they couldn't fill it up! And I don't believe it had anything to do with the itinerary. The biggest factor is they were no longer getting group bookings. Even family groups refused to sail because invariable there was at least one smoker even in a modest sized group and those groups stopped booking it to accommodate everyones preferences within their group.

[yogimax]

If some designated areas were set up it would maybe work and it will probably come to that.

 

Yep, I agree. Ultimately, all indoor areas will be smoke-free and certain outdoor decks will accommodate smokers.

[DC2OC]

There are many reasons the Paridise failed.The only balconies were in Suites,the intinerary didn't interest a lot of people.For most people smoking on the ship is not an issue,its the level of comfort in their space and yes any group of friends booking together may have smokers and if any of my smoking friends went on a cruise together we would want them to have a place to smoke:)

[pokyd]

I would also vote for no smoking in cabins and balconies. Air purifying systems don't eliminate the odors from bedding or carpeting etc. and don't really leave the rooms smoke free. Designated smoking rooms throughout the ship is OK as long as other passengers don't have to frequently go "through" to get to other things. On some ships you must pass through the smoking room to get to other public rooms. For those of us who are allergic it is difficult.

[beachlady58]

Hey all...Am I losing my mine? Where is our thread fromlast weekend?

[Suzanne74]

I can not believe 98 people so far think ALL cabins should allow smoking. That's pretty rude to the non-smokers to have to smell the musty smoke in our sheets and cabin. I am very curious why people think ALL cabins should have this right instead of some?

 

Why can't all the ships start with one side smoking, the other side non-smoking and then see where they need to adjust it?

 

I don't get it :( Maybe if 2nd hand smoke didn't kill or brought on asthma but it does - it is harmful so there should be an option for those that don't smoke.

 

Oh and one more problem I have - how can they justify no irons but allow people to light up??:mad: