Tell The Truth...please Respond!!!

[ecowen]

On a recent cruise I saw a slob in a tank top on formal night hanging out by the martini bar right before the late seating.:mad:

 

To me, this ranks up there along side filthy bathrooms, overflowing ashtrays, and dead flowers :eek:. Not what I want to see on an upscale, traditional cruiseline.

[Putz]

Artemis - Thanks for the warning. My TA was told by Celebrity and others have mentioned, we could use the Ocean Grill every night for casual dining...just have to reserve ahead of time. Obviously this option wasn't available to you...or was it because you came back late and didn't have a reservation so they couldn't accommodate you? Does anyone else out there in CC land know if the casual dining is offered on formal nights?

[themommy]

Yes - very disappointed.

Blatant disregard for any code or anyone else says a lot about a person.

[Ma Bell]

Artemis - Thanks for the warning. My TA was told by Celebrity and others have mentioned, we could use the Ocean Grill every night for casual dining...just have to reserve ahead of time. Obviously this option wasn't available to you...or was it because you came back late and didn't have a reservation so they couldn't accommodate you? Does anyone else out there in CC land know if the casual dining is offered on formal nights?

Yes, it's offered every night.

[Blazerboy]

Cookiegirl,

 

Unfortunatly, what those young men wanted was attention, so I'm not sure that they felt uncomfortable. Sometimes with age, you look back and see things you did when young and cringe (some of my fashion choices in the late '70's come to mind;) )

 

So in ten years if they think about it, they'll either laugh at themselves for being so immature, or they'll become arrogant about "their rights as a paying passengers" and hopefully suffer from the poor service I mentioned previously.:rolleyes:

To be clear, I wouldn't let it ruin a dinner for me, but might hope that my bemused expression about their behavior might be correctly interpreted as "oh, grow up" with out me having to say it.:D

 

And, as an aside, almost went to Lehigh, but went to Bucknell instead- and have family in Easton!

[scapel]

When a dress code is suggested, it should be followed out of respect for your fellow cruisers. You don't have to rent a tux. Everyone has a suit or at least a sport coat and a tie. If I see someone not in appropriated attire, I feel that maybe they lost their luggage, but when I lost mine for 8 days, Celebrity furnished me a Tux at no extra charge. I don't think I would have gone to anything formal with my short sleeve shirt and slacks that I had in my carryon.

If I did, I would have worn a sign that said, I apologize and please excuse me but I lost my luggage and I wanted to be with all of you.

It is recommended that you wear your formal attire for the entire evening and I think you should unless you have a good reason not to. It just takes a little mine control to have your brain tell your body. Be comfortable in this tux.

The casino is usually where one sees the dress code break down.

Suggestion: Give those in a tux or suit a free slip to gamble and when someone not dressed ask, "Where did you get the extra coupon ?", you can tell them. "They gave it to me because I was dressed up" HA:)

If a person intentially defies the dress code they are being disrespectful to their fellow cruisers and should have someone pat them on the back with the sticky sign that says JERK.

[scapel]

On a recent cruise I saw a slob in a tank top on formal night hanging out by the martini bar right before the late seating.:mad:

 

To me, this ranks up there along side filthy bathrooms, overflowing ashtrays, and dead flowers :eek:. Not what I want to see on an upscale, traditional cruiseline.

We always eat at the early seating and sometimes pass those at late seating that may be still walking around in their bathing suits. That does not bother us at all, but I have noticed it seemed to bother them. When they tell us we look nice, all I can say is "Thank You". They were in their proper attire for their part of their evening.

[Cruisin'Nurse]

disappointed is a good word. not angry and certainly not worth ruining my vacation over

I'm with Duck!

[babylene]

Personally, I can understand if someone doesn't dress formally. But GRUNGE is another story. I don't understand why anyone would want to look like that!

[CGTNORMANDIE]

HI GANG,

 

PLEASE keep it brief and stay on topic. Please answer the question as it is posed on page 1. A "YES" or a "NO" will suffice.

 

If you are going to comment...PLEASE BE NICE!!!

 

THANK YOU FOR YOUR RESPONSES AND "CHEERFUL COMMENTS".

 

ROSS

[katiel53]

I like to be dressed for the formal nights but my husband doesn't. He does get dressed in a suit to appease me. I don't notice how others dress on formal nights, but my husband sure does! He tells me every time, you made me dress up but look at xyz, not dressed up at all. I don't feel bad if after dinner people change into more casual clothes. I guess my reason for that is that people who go the casual restaurant or have dinner in their cabin have not offended others by being "unproperly dressed" in the dining room. Are those people to be confined to their cabins for the night because it's a dress up night? My husband is threatening to change into something casual after dinner this trip and I can almost understand--------------notice I said almost. But that's just MHO.

[seabreezer]

Ma Bell,

FYI, I do have opinions and am one of the most centered people I know. I just don't judge people by the clothes they wear or whether or not they conform to a dress code. Live and let live.

[Artemis]

Putz,

 

Celebrity's allowance for casual dining on formal nights may vary from ship to ship and from itinerary to itinerary. I am holding the daily Celebrity Today! for a formal night on the Millie in the Med and will tick off below the dining options -- which are somewhat different from what I earlier said, but also from what your TA and the OP said!

 

Metropolitan Restaurant (main dining room) -- 2 seatings, of course (formal) Note that the Formal Dress Code is defined: "Gentlemen: Tuxedo, dinner jacket, or dark suit and tie. Ladies: A dressy outfit, Formal Gown or Cocktail Dress."

 

Olympic Restaurant (by reservation, $30 cover per person, the usual formal wear req'd on formal nights, "jacket" all other nights)

 

Ocean Cafe (this is the buffet) -- it was closed at 5:00 p.m. not to re-open until the next a.m.

 

Casual Dining Blvd. -- pizza, pasta and sushi (I forgot the sushi) from 6-10p; and then, here's your option: "Alternative Dining" 6-10p By Reservation, Suggested gratuity $2.00 per person (I totally forgot this, but recall now, when we arrived, there was a long line, no table available until 9:30p, plus my DH was pretty miffed that there was an add'l charge to sit down and eat at a limited menu *casual dining* spot carved out of the Ocean Cafe area). There is a specific dress code notation here (under the Casual Dining Blvd. section) that reads: "The Dress code is casual every day. Although in all other areas the dress code of the evening applies. We kindly ask for your cooperation and consideration of your fellow guests." It is my understanding that this somewhat confusingly worded statement is intended to reflect Celebrity's desire that formal dress be maintained about the ship the entire evening, e.g., in bars and lounges, at the evening's show, etc. In other words, you can eat scruffy here, but you have to put on your duds if you want to paint the town red??!

 

Riviera Grill -- poolside burgers, pizza, etc. -- closed at 6:00 p.m.

 

Cova Cafe -- "savories" served til 8:30 p.m. (light bites to go with coffee)

 

AquaSpa Cafe -- healthy choice dining til 8:00 p.m. (I had forgotten this as we arrived too late, but this would be a nice option for you--yummy stuff)

 

Hope this clarifies things for you. I'm sorry to have provided incomplete information at the outset. As you might gather, we were a little steamed about the entire way that evening worked out. Celebrity handled embarkation from the port stop so poorly (one gangplank, there was a line forever out in the hot sun) that we (and many others) were late for our formal night seating. Once we realized that, we went to clean up thinking there'd be the buffet. When we went up to the Ocean Cafe and discovered no buffet, AquaSpa closed, we found the only thing left was pizza/pasta (we don't do sushi) or the add'l charge casual dinner that couldn't seat us til an hour later for dinner from a fairly limited menu (not the full formal night menu as in the dining room). So, yeah, we were not thrilled, but did return to our cabin and ordered off the formal night menu from room service. So in the end, we were fat and happy! Well, except when we later heard from tablemates that lots of people went to the dining room dressed casually. We wouldn't have done that out of respect for the evening--Celebrity's failure to enforce the rule just added fuel to our overall displeasure with how that evening worked out!

 

Of course, it's all in the expectations. We expected there to be an easier back-up to eating in the dining room.

 

Now you know better what to expect and won't be frustrated!

[NnJ2010]

Honestly? We really don't go on a cruise thinking about what other's might wear. We might comment/chuckle between ourselves. This is not just about dinner but the 80 year old wearing a speedo by the pool that definitely has a big ;).

Agreed.

 

A big resounding NO.

 

Why in the heck would I be disappointed? What someone else wears has absolutely NOTHING to do with my enjoyment of a cruise. To think otherwise IMO is just silly.

 

Should people be respectful of the guidelines yes. Am I going to be upset, bothered, disappointed because someone lacks class.........no.

[Ma Bell]

Ma Bell,

FYI, I do have opinions and am one of the most centered people I know. I just don't judge people by the clothes they wear or whether or not they conform to a dress code. Live and let live.

I really didn't mean that personally, only that it's OK to be judgmental and our thoughts and opinions can be kept to ourselves if we like. I really didn't mean you in particular, I was just speaking generally that people nowadays are afraid to have opinions because they might be accused of being judgmental. You just made it sound like you really might not like something but you were afraid to say anything because you might be considered judgmental. My choice of words was poor...I was only trying to encourage you to not be afraid of your convictions. If I offended you I'm truly sorry. I don't know you so I couldn't possibly know what kind of person you are.

 

I don't judge people by the clothes they wear either, but if they are deliberately being obnoxious with not dressing appropriately for the situation and showing no respect for others I am disappointed. Will it ruin my evening...no.

[StephenJohnson]

Heck, No.

Unless they're planning on beating me up or calling me names, what do I care? Let the cruise police worry about it.

[Marie Stevens]

I enjoy dressing up for dinner a few nights on our cruises. However, I also find it a real bore to do it night after night. Therefore, we eat at the alternative dining room quite often. I dont mean to flame anyone but I also feel that anyone who pays the price to go on a cruise has the right to do what he pleases in regard to dress, within reason. I also feel that it is my right to go back to our cabin and "get comfortable" after dinner. Mostly, I do that to keep from freezing to death on the ship in the evening. Sometimes a sweater and slacks feel so good in the sub zero temperature they keep the ship at night. A little shawl over a little black dress often leaves me with my teeth chattering. To each his own.
T

[Putz]

Ma Bell - Thanks. Glad to know our TA and Celebrity informed us correctly.

Artemis - Don't know whether or not to thank you for your info.;) Now you've got me drooling at the thought of all the food that's available!:) The Ocean Grill is obviously a popular option if you need to make a reservation. We had hoped there would be a buffet in the evening (similar to HAL), but no such luck. Nevertheless, any meal I don't have to prepare will be greatly enjoyed. Thanks for typing out all the info...I'll keep it posted on my fridge!

As we haven't sailed X previously, just a bit curious whether it's a common occurrence that people wear jeans to the dining room. On all our HAL cruises I only recall one time when I saw a couple in jeans (in fact they wore them every night).

[Margarita Jane]

I am embarrassed when I see people dressed inappropriately. I guess this is because if I attend an event or function, and I am not dressed appropriately, I am embarrassed.

[CaribbeanBound]

I wouldn't say I go "to the trouble" to dress up. I enjoy wearing a tux. That said, I also hate wearing a regular tie. I also love aloha shirts!

Yes, I woud be very dissapointed to see folks who dress down more than one level below the dress code. For example: I have no problem with coat and tie (rather than tux) on Formal nights. I do have a problem with polo shirt and jeans / t-shirt and shorts on formal night.

I do think that anyone wearing t-shirts, shorts, or beach shoes to dinner on ANY night should be redirected from the dining room to the buffet.

Private clubs and finer dining establishments wouldn't think twice about refusing service.

[Nliedel]

Live and let live.. I wish people would dress up but people not dressing up do not bother me per se.. although I am likely to make fun of you in my head if you show up in something odd.. (I mean VERY odd... not sort of odd.. you know.. skin hanging out that.. well no one should wear a skirt that short.. not even people with perfect bodies)...

[NiniB]

[font=Comic Sans MS][size=3][color=magenta]No,, what other people wear is their[b][u] business[/u][/b]. It most certainly would not have any bearing on my vacation experiance. And while you stated to be [b]HONEST,,, [/b]I find it very sad that sooo many people in this day ,,, will actually ALLOW themselves to be so judgemental..:confused: NO one has the RIGHT to judge ANOTHER,,,,,, and over CLOTHS....... :confused: its :( [/color][/size][/font]
[font=Comic Sans MS][size=3][color=#ff00ff][/color][/size][/font]
[font=Comic Sans MS][size=3][color=#ff00ff]BTW,, the ever popular suggested " if you dont like the dress code find another line" is [b]COMICAL,,, who's going to enforce that??? :rolleyes: [/b][/color][/size][/font]

[garykool81]

I probably share the majority opinion here when I state that people not wishing to abide by the evening's dress code for dining have plenty of other options, such as the alternative dining venues onboard.

If you don't want the elegance of a more formal environment, there are also plenty of other options for cruises, ranging from the very low-end of Carnival to the very high-end luxury offered by companies such as Seabourn and others that feature a more "country club casual" atmosphere.

Personally, I am offended when I take quite some time to dress up and take a great amount of pride in making sure I look my best when I am making my way to the dining room for one of the more formal evenings. Seeing someone who not only choose to disregard the dress code for the evening, but also shows up in something that was obviously thrown on in a matter of seconds just is a bit insulting.

I know everyone has a different opinion on the topic -- that's mine :-)

[joramrose]

[quote name='Cookiegirl']Absolutely disappointed! When we were on the Century last April, a few young men, most likely in their late teens, walked into the dining room on the second formal night in shorts and sneakers, backwards turned baseball caps, t-shirt. Everyone stared at them... I'm sure they felt quite uncomfortable... at least I hope so.[/QUOTE]


No, they were not uncomfortable, Cookie.They did that to be noticed. They probably could care less about the dress code -- they just wanted to show off a little bit.

So I hope no one paid them any attention.

But if one of them had been my son, and I had paid for his cruise, I would have marched him out of the dining room by his ear -- plrobably to hearty applause.

I don't care if YOU don't want to dress up. You do not affect my cruise one way or another. But YOU are not my son - whom I have tried to teach good manners. Him, I care about.


And that is what it boils down to. Good manners.
love
joan

[garykool81]

[quote name='joramrose']I would have marched him out of the dining room by his ear...[/QUOTE]

Isn't that the job of the hostess? Or, at least it used to be.

:-)