Fancy or comfort?

[thefog]

Wondering is it appropriate to wear a mock shirt with sports coat on both formal nights?

[DrivesLikeMario]

No. That's not formal wear. Formal wear information below is found at: http://www.blacktieguide.com/Basics/1_Attire.htm

 

Black Tie Defined

(revised July 2007) 1. dinner jacket

 

color:

 

• black is the norm

 

• midnight blue with black trimming is equally correct

 

model can be:

 

• single-breasted

 

• double-breasted

 

lapels can be:

 

• peaked lapel

 

• shawl collar

 

• notch collar is most popular but considered

 

inappropriate by traditionalists

 

and can have:

 

• satin facing

 

• grosgrain facing

 

sleeve buttons: covered in same fabric as lapel facings

 

vents: no vents is most formal

 

 

 

2. black-tie trousers matching color and material with jacket

 

single braid along seams to match lapel facings

 

natural taper

 

3. black-tie waist covering black waist covering can be either:

 

• cummerbund

 

• waistcoat

 

 

4. black-tie shirt

 

 

white fabric

 

collar can be:

 

• wing collar, described by many authorities as the most formal but some insist it is the exclusive domain of white tie

 

• turndown collar

 

fronts can be either pleated or piqué

eyelets for studs and French cuffs for links

 

 

5. black-tie neckwear

black silk bow tie to match lapel facings

 

 

6. black-tie footwear

 

 

black shoes:

 

• patent leather pumps are most traditional

 

• (patent) Oxfords are acceptable

 

black silk or fine fabric hose, over-the-calf length

 

 

7. black-tie accessories suspenders

 

harmonizing black, gold or mother-of-pearl studs and cufflinks

 

white silk or linen handkerchief

 

That's not to say that you won't see something like you're asking about, but it's not considered formal wear. It's up to you what you want to do. :cool:

[LARGIN]

Wondering is it appropriate to wear a mock shirt with sports coat on both formal nights?

 

It is not appropriate..

[Pam in CA]

That would be fine for non-formal nights but isn't "formal" attire. A dark suit would more appropriate if you don't have a tux or want to rent one.

[Colo Cruiser]

It is not appropriate..

 

What about mock jeans? :eek:

[newmexicoNita]

sport jacket with tie and dress shirt will pass, that is about as informal as one should try unless you want to eat somewhere other than the main dining room.

 

Nita

[bhopal21]

What about mock jeans? :eek:

 

Is that similar to macque choux?;)

 

Mike:)

[Colo Cruiser]

Is that similar to macque choux?;)

 

Mike:)

 

:D :eek: :D

[serene56]

It might not be appropriate but we saw that done on the Caribbean Princess when we sailed.

 

This family had all the guys wearing the faux tux front tee shirts worn with a tux jacket- We thought it was a hoot. At least they wore the jacket.

We then saw the same family at the shows still dressed.

[davewilliamt]

Wondering is it appropriate to wear a mock shirt with sports coat on both formal nights?

 

 

You are going on vacation for your enjoyment, not for someone else's.

A sport coat and a nice shirt is formal enough in today's environment.

 

Honestly, the only people I see wearing ties today are salesman.

 

And I work for a Fortune 100 company.

[thefog]

That's what i thought in today's world. As long as you look neat and comfortable with a nice sports coat and dress pants and nice shirt who really cares about the tie. Know one wears them today.

[sultan_sfo]

You may think what you like and wear what you like so long as you know that it is not appropriate.

 

That's what i thought in today's world. As long as you look neat and comfortable with a nice sports coat and dress pants and nice shirt who really cares about the tie. Know one wears them today.

[Pam in CA]

That's what i thought in today's world. As long as you look neat and comfortable with a nice sports coat and dress pants and nice shirt who really cares about the tie. Know one wears them today.

No one where?

[davewilliamt]

You may think what you like and wear what you like so long as you know that it is not appropriate.

 

Since style is personal one should always go with what makes THEM feel best. Either most comfortable on vacation, or most important at their wedding, or most respectable in their office, etc. So, going with the dinner jacket/slacks combo is definitately recommended.

 

Moreover, it is totally appropriate! The attire guideline does not say anything about wearing a tie!

 

Onboard Attire

Princess makes it easy to know what to pack and what to wear when you're dining onboard. There are two designations for dress codes: Smart Casual and Formal.

Smart Casual Evenings:

• Passenger attire should be in keeping with what would be worn to a nice restaurant at home. Inappropriate dinner wear such as pool or beach attire, shorts, ball caps and casual jeans (with fraying and/or holes), is not permitted in the dining rooms. Shoes must be worn.

Formal Evenings:

• Evening gown, cocktail dress, or elegant pant suit for women
  
• Tuxedo, dark suit or dinner jacket and slacks for men

[flamomo]

"As long as you look neat and comfortable with a nice sports coat and dress pants and nice shirt who really cares about the tie"

 

For people who know what is appropriate dress, it is understood that a tie is to be worn in certain situations.

 

IF a sports coat were appropriate, don't you think the guidelines Princess publishes would say so?

Well, it doen't, but it does specifically say:

"Tuxedo, dark suit or dinner jacket and slacks for men" for formal night.

 

Why is it that some people think it's OK to flaunt or make a mockery of the guidlines?

 

Have some respect for your fellow cruisers. If you want to play by your rules on formal night(s), that's fine. But don't expect to be welcomed by all in the dining rooms. The maitre' de may let you in because Princess won't want to offend a potential future cruiser, but you'll be out-of-place to many of the other PAX who enjoy the dress-up aspect of formal night.