SeaDog-46 Posted July 15, 2008 #1 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Prior to her convertion to Pacific Dawn in Singapore - Regal Princess with an air draft of 47.6 metres was too high to safely get under Sydney Harbour Bridge. This was overcome by making the topmast able to be lowered. The attached photos from W818 show the topmast UP leaving Nukualofa & DOWN leaving Dravuni Island. Any other cruise ship considered for Sydney would be required to get below the 47 metre limit air draft for the bridge. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickalex Posted July 15, 2008 #2 Share Posted July 15, 2008 The later looks very modern compared to the older picture. Lol, they could have just made the top 10 feet spring loaded backwoods!:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSWP Posted July 15, 2008 #3 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Sea Dog46..John..as you know I was on Regal Princess pre Pacific Dawn when we sailed under Sydney Harbour Bridge on Oct 2 last year, we berthed at Wharf 8, Darling Harbour. I estimate we got under the bridge by about 2 or 3 metres, with the original mast etc. The ship left that day back under the bridge to Singapore for refit. So I am a little perplexed by your post mate, no hard feeling though. Cheers..Les:cool: :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaDog-46 Posted July 15, 2008 Author #4 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Hi Les - see you enjoyed your circumnavigation of Oz. Shame about not being able to tender. On W818 we tendered in all seven ports. You can see from the photos what was done to the mast. It was also mentioned by Capt. Andrew. The SAFE clearance for SHB is max air draft of 47 metres. This is under the maintenance gantry. Regal Princess / Pacific Dawn - there air draft is still the same 47.6 metres. So that she complies with the rules & they don't have to shift the gantry, they had to fit a lowering top mast. This requrement would have to be complied with by any replacement cruiseship for PD. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSWP Posted July 15, 2008 #5 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Thanks John, I now understand what you are getting at with the airdraft, hence the mast alterations. Yes, some positives and negatives on our OZ trip, thats the risk you take with tender ports on your itinerary. Cheers..Les:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare arxcards Posted July 15, 2008 #6 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Any other cruise ship considered for Sydney would be required to get below the 47 metre limit air draft for the bridge. John Yes - absolutely - more Sun class ships on the horizon! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerman00 Posted July 15, 2008 #7 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Hi all. I seem to remember the Pacific Sky had a mask that could be lowered.... for the SHB.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare arxcards Posted July 15, 2008 #8 Share Posted July 15, 2008 John, I am curious about the air draft measurements. By media and P&O's releases, Sun Princess is the tallest ship to pass under the coathanger. The info I have is that Sun Princess has an air draft of just under 48.4 metres. The collapsable topmast was left raised during departure and again on return, but I noticed from my pics that the gantry is parked well to the north side of the bridge for both passes. I had not previously considered that SP was actually capable of striking the bridge gantry, so I gather the topmast would be lowered if the gantry was anywhere near the shipping lane. Who would make that call - the Pilot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaDog-46 Posted July 16, 2008 Author #9 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Hi Geoff I was not aware Sun Princess had a topmast that could be lowered. Regarding whether the topmast can stay up - the ship would be advised well before the pilot comes onboard & maybe they are only advising when it needs to be lowered. As you say the gantry is usually stowed at the northern end of the bridge out of the way when not in use. Pacific Dawn had lowered hers before we left Dravuni Island for a 0530 pilot & 0700 berthing. Obviously any cruiseship wanting to use Wharf 8 will have to be able to comply with the 47 metre airdraft restriction. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Kruzer Posted July 16, 2008 #10 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Several ships can lower their masts to get under bridges.Here a link to a neat video of Norwegian Dream in the Kiel Canal.Not only the mast is lowered hydraulically but the funnel is flipped as well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Eo8hvcfCRA&feature=related (its in the very first part of the clip) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffraff Posted July 16, 2008 #11 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Hi Geoff I was not aware Sun Princess had a topmast that could be lowered. Regarding whether the topmast can stay up - the ship would be advised well before the pilot comes onboard & maybe they are only advising when it needs to be lowered. As you say the gantry is usually stowed at the northern end of the bridge out of the way when not in use. Pacific Dawn had lowered hers before we left Dravuni Island for a 0530 pilot & 0700 berthing. Obviously any cruiseship wanting to use Wharf 8 will have to be able to comply with the 47 metre airdraft restriction. John On the Sydney Ports's vessel movement system I often see that Pacific Dawn and Sun Princess both have the note 'Check Bridge Clearance" listed against their time of departure. What is a bit odd is that it says this, even if they are berthing at OPT. They obviously don't want them reversing into the bridge either. (I think this did happen at some time in the past, maybe with Canberra?) Also in the system it lists the ships measurements - Sun Princess - keel to truck with top mast down 56.74m Pacific Dawn - keel to truck 60.25 (55.5 with mast lowered) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karmac Posted July 16, 2008 #12 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Several ships can lower their masts to get under bridges.Here a link to a neat video of Norwegian Dream in the Kiel Canal.Not only the mast is lowered hydraulically but the funnel is flipped as well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Eo8hvcfCRA&feature=related (its in the very first part of the clip) That was cool, David:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
croydonCruiser Posted July 17, 2008 #13 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Several ships can lower their masts to get under bridges.Here a link to a neat video of Norwegian Dream in the Kiel Canal.Not only the mast is lowered hydraulically but the funnel is flipped as well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Eo8hvcfCRA&feature=related (its in the very first part of the clip) Wow! That was great! Thanks for posting this David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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