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Oh c'mon.....I'm bored and need a little fun...go for it:D:D.

 

 

 

*LOL*

 

Awwwwww whats a little wine and cheese , or a good heaveing overboard among CCers *LOL*

 

Hell when my kids were little I used to threaten to send them to the Neverland Ranch when they were bad. :)

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I blame the parents with their it's all about me attitude & don't bother me I am on vacation. Don't we know that the best defense is the offense! That is why some parents are so quick to open up their mouths to defend their little darlins. Yes thank goodness there are a lot of good parents out there & it is refreshing when you see children behave & are polite. When my daughter was 18 months old we took her to Tavern on the Green(an expensive fancy reataurant) in Central Park New York City for lunch. Now some will say were you out of your minds? No we were not because she was taught how to behave in a restaurant wheather it was McDonalds or an exclusive restaurant. Bad behavior was never tolarated with either of my children!

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Don't forget that if you are taking a b2b you may be on the ship for 14 days, but you are not taking an official 14 day cruise. You are taking 2 7 day cruises, so if it near a holiday or school vacation period you will have plenty of kids, just different kids each week. :eek:

 

We're doing a b2b and I purposely booked the Good Nuts Cruise on 1/23 on the Noordam and the next 10 day segment. We'll disembark before the little darlings board for Presidents Week.

 

It may not be "that bad" this year on the Noordam seeing that the ship is in Fort Lauderdale rather than New York. But, I didn't want to chance it.

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There are only two solutions...and at best neither are that great. The first is for the cruise lines to simply refuse children under 12 passage. The second is for those of us that find children under twelve accompanied by "hooligan' adults to be an unacceptable intrusoion into our cruises is to simply book when the least number of children are likely to be onboard.

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after 8 HAL cruises , buddy and I have this thing down to a science. We get a head count on day 1 of the number of kids onboard and then we divide that total by the number of days on the cruise. 50 kids on a 7 day cruise, we need to deal with 7 and a fraction each day.

 

Then we identify the most obnoxious and we lay in wait and when no one is watching, we snatch them by the scruff of the neck and seat of the pants and pitch them overboard. After the first 3 days, things quiet down quite a bit and we have to work harder to find the little darlins unattended... but by day 7 all is peace and bliss and we can find a quiet corner to read uninterrupted by the pitter patter of obnoxious little feet.

 

 

:):):):):)

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Okay, I know it was a holiday cruise.....but just got back from our 7 day Mexican Riviera and hubby and I were talking once again about all the abuse the poor dining room stewards had to take from several different families' " Little Darlings". These were children in the toddler to age 6 range. Other than the screeching and yelling out in the Vista dining room ( frequently) these little squirts were allowed to run up and down the aisles and on more than one occasion ran INTO the dining room stewards. As this happened the little boy then loudly demanded, " GET OUT OF MY WAY!" After 3 different incidents of this marching/running around a parent FINALLY got up and attempted to get them under some form of control ( Not very effectively as all they did was escort the kids as they walked in and out of the dining area at least three more times.) These antics were repeated on several nights, it wasn't just one isolated incident. On another occasion I saw another group of kids, ages from about 5 to 12, running wild in the showroom where the magician was attempting to do a show in the afternoon. He had to stop his act and deal with them THREE TIMES as they were running in front of him, and were all gathered in a big noisy group playing and running up and down the balcony stairs. There were NO parents in control, so the kids were acting as if this were their playground. There was one approx. 5 year old boy who was attempting to climb everything, including the balcony railing, but thank goodness one of the older kids saw and pulled him down off it. Finally after the magician threatened to turn them all into toads, and some of the audience members were yelling, "WHERE ARE THEIR PARENTS?" a few sheepishly got up and collected their kids and left.

Now granted there were many other (Usually older) children who did just fine....although the teens didn't quite get the hang of what the Vista diningroom dresscode was all about. ( Girls in "Daisy Dukes shorts and bra straps hanging out, guys in baggy clothes ready to go hang out at the mall....I guess neither their parents or the diningroom steward had the strength to tell them this was not appropriate. (At least on formal night I saw less of this.) Now I realize that teens are what they are, but if they want to dress down the Lido buffet and hamburger grill by the pool are just fine for that kind of dress. Speaking of the Lido, they have a whole corner in the evening devoted to "Kid Cusine" with chicken nuggets, pizza, mac-and-cheese frenchfries ect. that I am sure would be more pleasing to the preschool set than what chef Rudy Sondheim was serving up in the Vista. From the kids point of view, a long drawn out formal dinner has got to be an ordeal to sit through too. I just wish that the parents would act like parents, and make more appropriate choices for their kids, and if they want to go out to a nice meal, take advantage of the babysitting service.

 

 

Oh dear!

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i find it very sad that many of you can only seem to find "fault" with children's "apalling" behavior instead of looking at the light shining in their eyes as they see the clear water for the first time in their life, or hearing the joy in their laughter as they only begin their quality in life's experiences. It's not only children who have their faults, after all, you yourselves began life as a child, and not everyone is filled with perfection...lucky for you if your entire life has been nothing but perfect...and wow, why isn't this world full of perfect people if that's what you have raised. How do children learn if they are not exposed? Part of learning is experiencing.

 

You are missing the point, unfortunately!

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I am the mother of three children, from preschool aged through almost 18, and I can say with certainty there is a difference between excitement and joy pertaining to learning, and wild uncontrollable behavior.

 

We do not tolerate such shenanigans with our children. They are most certainly encouraged to have a good time wherever they are, but NOT at the expense of the comfort of those around them. It's called respect and far too few people expect that of themselves or their children.

 

:rolleyes:

 

U sound so much like my MOM...:) and how fortunate I consider myself and my children she and her Mom & Grand Mother was like they were!! Seems manners run in families...

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The good news for the OP was that she did not have to deal with both!!! Cherie

How do you know she didn't have to deal with both? She hasn't said that. You are making an assumption, and presenting it as fact, based on nothing.

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Most children I have run across on cruises are wonderful. Once in a great while I have seen a child in training. What I mean by that is that a few families seem not to dine out often and the children have not learned how to act just yet. The children who are more exposed to dining out do very well. It is always unfortunate when a single family decides to go straight from McDonalds to a fine dining experience. I would hope they work their way to that by going from McDonalds to Denny's to a better steakhouse to top notch over time before they take on a cruise dining room. Children who are exposed to dining out by degrees seem to do well.

 

I am always surprised by how many children are good on cruises. Warms the heart! There are some great parents out there on the high seas.

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Anybody happen to read the article in USA Today about a week ago - it was a letter to the travel editor written by a woman who was incensed that NCL would not allow her diaper clad toddler into the swimming pool. The woman was so angry and felt that her "rights" had been violated. Ended up that, when the editor contacted NCL, they refunded the toddler's portion of their cabin fare. NCL shouldn't have had to do that, in my view. ----Penny

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Most children I have run across on cruises are wonderful. Once in a great while I have seen a child in training. What I mean by that is that a few families seem not to dine out often and the children have not learned how to act just yet. The children who are more exposed to dining out do very well. It is always unfortunate when a single family decides to go straight from McDonalds to a fine dining experience. I would hope they work their way to that by going from McDonalds to Denny's to a better steakhouse to top notch over time before they take on a cruise dining room. Children who are exposed to dining out by degrees seem to do well.

 

I am always surprised by how many children are good on cruises. Warms the heart! There are some great parents out there on the high seas.

While I agree with you to a certain degree I think it's about setting boundries. When I was young we very rarely got taken out for dinner. When we did we were told ahead of time what was expected in terms of behavior. We were told if we acted up it would the last dinner out. While we were far from perfect at home we did behave when we were in public.

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Most children I have run across on cruises are wonderful ... I would hope they work their way to that by going from McDonalds to Denny's to a better steakhouse to top notch over time before they take on a cruise dining room.

I agree. We seldom see unruly kids ... but on occasion have. The idea of preparing a child for fine dining certainly has merit. But that requires parenting ... and some parents obviously do not have a clue what this skill entails.

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You are missing the point, unfortunately!

 

No, I think the poster "gets" the point...I was kinda hoping that the poster was being sarcastic...no?:o...well, anyway, the poster wants us all to see "the light shining in (the little monsters') eyes", while they pillage and destroy the cruise ship, disturb other passengers, and otherwise wreak havoc for the entire trip. I for one think the type of parent/person peddling this drivel are the reason our society is going to you know where in a hurry. Please, spare me the blather about letting them feel their feelings and "experience" life. Just keep them in line and teach them to respect others, that is what your duty is as a parent. It is not to force your darlings and their bad behavior on the rest of us and to expect us to like it or lump it!:mad:

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I admit I have not read through this entire thread. On our last HAL cruise, I never noticed a misbehaving child, but I listened to and saw plenty of obnoxious adults. We had missed one port due to a tropical storm and you would think it was the end of the world. Even my own kids don't whine that much.

 

The very worst behavior exibited was when we were finally able to get off the ship, arriving quite late to our second port. Obviously, everyone wanted to get off the ship. We were on the bottom deck and my son was stuck in his cabin. We wanted to get down to him (we had been in the Crow's Nest), because I admit, he can be kind of an anxious child, and I was afraid he would be worried we had left the ship without him.

 

I made my way down the stairs through the shoving and pushing crowds of adults, letting people know I was not "cutting" in line, but trying to get back to my cabin. When my seven year old DD and I reached the bottom of the last flight of stairs, and I was still saying, "excuse me, I'm just going back to my cabin", an older man took his elbow and shoved me in the back, quite hard.

 

Totally inexcusable and the absolute worst behavior I've ever seen. In retrospect, I wish I had done something about it, but I was worried about my son and just wanted to make sure he was o.k., so I made my way back to the cabin.

 

So, it's not just the kids who get out-of-control!

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One of my dentists loves to cruise and does so, with his freinds and extended family, throughout the year. Their greatest joy is that once they hit the ship, they never have to deal with their kids.

 

There are many, many passengers like this on all the mass marketed cruise lines, especially during peak school holiday times.

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Unfortunately, the parents of unruly and misbehaving children on cruises probably never read Cruise Critic messages and they probably wouldn't recognize themselves even if they did. We sailed on a 10-day Noordam recently and there were only a handful of kids on board even though it was during Thanksgiving. It was so pleasant after our last cruise last year during Christmas week - yikes! We don't have kids and get admonished by those who do saying we don't understand what it means to be a parent. That may be true, but we were children once and our parents taught us how to behave properly in public and have respect for our elders and ourselves. That gives us the right to comment:cool:

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My partner and mysel were on the Oosterdam the week before (12/13) we were surprised to see so many Kids..pre teens and teen agers. I do have to admit they were pretty well behaved, and we really didn't have any problems.. We got a kick out of teen-agers how they formed their groups and roamed the ship in packs...lol. I took a combined Christmas and New Years cruise years ago and swore that I would never do it again...lol

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No, I think the poster "gets" the point...I was kinda hoping that the poster was being sarcastic...no?:o...well, anyway, the poster wants us all to see "the light shining in (the little monsters') eyes", while they pillage and destroy the cruise ship, disturb other passengers, and otherwise wreak havoc for the entire trip. I for one think the type of parent/person peddling this drivel are the reason our society is going to you know where in a hurry. Please, spare me the blather about letting them feel their feelings and "experience" life. Just keep them in line and teach them to respect others, that is what your duty is as a parent. It is not to force your darlings and their bad behavior on the rest of us and to expect us to like it or lump it!:mad:

I don't think the poster you are referring to gets the distinction between excitement over new experiences and the wonder of it all in a child's eyes, versus the miserable, bratty behaviour that is often exhibited by children in public.

While I tend to get "caught up" and enjoy the wonder children display over new activities, I would use a different term---say "trapped" when exposed to selfish, bratty behaviour in a close environment.

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