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  1. What you are missing is that appears all people having their cruises cancelled are being compensated with a full refund plus various strategies of FCC. At least the US T's and C's and probably all of the others do say a full refund will be provided for cruises cancelled by Regent which it appears are being provided. The FCC is in addition to the full refunds seems to me to be a realistic compensation even if it has to be used for cruises sailing in 2020. Sincerely doubt there will be any negotiations accepted or expected and yes, the lawyers have written the T's and C's and are writing the letters with the compensation as directed by the senior management and as they say they are what they are and over and above what is required by the Contract between the cruise line and the customers. The offers IMHO are extremely realistic and above and beyond what is in the cruise contract. And, once Regent changes the terms of the FCC, they will have opened the doors to other to demand changes to their offers as well. Sincerely believe the offers are per the Contract or better and will not change.
  2. Following is a excerpt from the US Regent Ticket Contract and clearly states refund and not FCC. "a. If We cancel the Cruise or CruiseTour before it has started, We will refund the full Cruise Fare or CruiseTour Fare that We have actually received (less any air or accommodation charges incurred)." For other countries suggest people whose cruise has been cancelled look up the ticket contract which should provide the conditions of cancellation for your market. Since Regent operates in various markets, have to believe that all of the different ticket contracts comply with the consumer laws of the different markets so no need to view the consumer laws, simply look at the ticket contracts provided by Regent for your market. Would assume all markets are identical regarding cruises that are cancelled before they start but, the ticket contract would be the place to confirm.
  3. Most likely no refund depends on your basis of fare. Likely for about $200 per person a credit of the balance to be used booked within a year. Good luck
  4. Completely agree Wendy. Starting with pillow cases, might as well bring all of your own bedding and wash/change the bedding yourself and tell the stewardess to not touch the bed. At some point all this cleaning, changing bedding, etc. becomes useless. Simply take care of yourselves and more than likely all will be well.
  5. It is 2 Formal Optional nights. It is your choice how you dress. You don't have to dress formal, business casual is fine for all nights. Some people may dress formal while others will dress as they do for all other nights. Not mandatory to dress formal You are correct, the majority will not dress formal.
  6. Don't think they mean this at all. They are not talking about crew already onboard. The rules, just like those for passengers who are boarding to begin their cruise are for crew joining the ship after being off on vacation or new crew joining the ship for the first time.
  7. While your logic is excellent, believe the problem is that there is rally no simply way for the clerks checking in people at the dock can verify that the people are telling the truth about where they have been or transited thru. Just like the health form we all simply say no to all the questions since we are afraid that any yes answer may result in not being allowed to board, self reporting is a real crap shoot. Not all immigration results in a stamp in your passport, people have multiple passports and don't think all countries are linked electronically such that passing thru or into an infected country can be accurately accounted for. Really unfortunate otherwise healthy people have to go thru this to get to their job or on their cruise of a lifetime but, remember a single person who boarded and subsequently got off the Princess ship guaranteed in Japan.
  8. How do you propose someone prove they haven't left a particular country especially to a clerk checking you in to board a cruise ship?? Almost impossible to prove you didn't do something like leave a country especially the US or Canada where I am sure leaving the US there is no immigration and believe the same for Canada as well as other countries?? May not be fair but, alos not fair is an epidemic that is sweeping the globe. This may be a good example of where not being fair to a few is more than fair for the vast majority. Remember, the Princess ship under quarantine in Japan was infected by a single person who got on then got off and now what, over 100 people are infected.
  9. Not sure I understand your scanning comment. When checking in for a cruise there is no scanning of the passport and sincerely doubt that the clerks at checkin can tell where a passenger had been in the past x number of days. And, when going thru immigration, my experience is that the passport is put on a scanner that then connects with the country of the passport to get information about the passenger available in the countries data base which probably would not include information about every entry/leaving of other countries. For instance leaving the US no passport is scanned and we don't go thru immigration. Pretty sure the only way to know for sure if someone entered a specific country and the date of entry is to physically look at each page of the book looking for the appropriate stamp and some are in the language of the country entered.
  10. Good points Wendy but, just the fact they have one of the three areas passport is enough to keep the crew and passengers off the ship. What you say about Canadians with Chinese or Hong Kong passports is true and sure Canada is not isolated with that. Problem i see is that passports are not always stamped plus if stamped often difficult to read plus would extend the time to board significantly with the agents needing to go thru every page looking for the stamp and the date. Don't believe there is a significant problem with the blanket denial vs the time/effort plus a good chance to miss someone with a recent arrival/departure from one of the problem areas so that banning based on passport issuance seems to be a fair compromise and better to be a bit more restrictive to protect the passengers on board.
  11. Don't believe home comes into play for this issue. From what the letters appear to say those with the unacceptable passports/documentation are not being allowed to board the ships. To me this means those starting a new contract or coming back from a vacation at home are those not being allowed to board. Based on this interpretation, these people will have been off for a month or more and are now coming back to work therefore they were and will not have been working before this "forced vacation" without pay. thus they will be hurting for pay as they were expecting to start/restart work and thus getting paychecks, etc. Don't see how this can smack of racism as ships are saying the same thing to passengers boarding with the same passports and it is a nationality restriction, not based on race but, where their documents show them as residents. To stop an epidemic like this people have to be isolated such that they don't travel and infest people in outher countries/ships/planes, etc.
  12. Like I said in previous post, believe what I said to be true however cannot be certain as details are known only by the cruise line. As to being able to use the air that was included in your total fare, really doubt that would be possible as believe in many contracts cruise lines only get the great fares based on being part of the cruise. Again, YMMV.
  13. Believe cruise only is the amount your TA's commission is based on and believe but, not sure that value is the total cruise price you pay less air/included hotel and port taxes/fees that are broken out for the TA but, not for the customer. YMMV
  14. Absolutely agree. In fact all cruise lines are able to attempt to book the cancelled cabin again thus double dipping in getting paid twice and if they can't book, they save by not having to provide the food, drink, etc. thus increasing profits. And before someone brings up cancelling flights, in most cases non-refundable for air does allow the passenger to cancel for any reason and pay a nominal sum to have the balance of the amount paid able to be used to book another flight in the next year so while not refundable at least some or most of the money can be used for another flight. Realize this is the process for all or almost all cruise lines but, would seem much fairer to both parties if should they book your cancelled cruise with another allow the person cancelling to recoup a FCC after a small penalty charge to be used on a future cruise. Would help both the person canceling and the cruise line by getting another booking and thus profit while allowing the passenger to use most of their paid money on a future cruise. Win, win!!
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