Keith1010

We will know this as soon as they announce who will fill the space previously occupied by Umi Uma. The other dining options are listed on the Crystal Cruises website. Keith

I am not sure you will book anyway but as some say time will tell. I am happy to be a guinea pig. I am reminded that when they restarted in 2021 all the naysayers about sailing the Bahamas in the summer and 7 day cruises and hurricanes (they rarely get any) and this and that and this and it was divine. Even Endeavor with its issues (we were on the third sailing) was terrific. Anyway, I know you think there will be a lot of changes but you missed the last 10+ years of the evolution so for you it will look like major changes. I think for those of us who sailed more recently it will look like a continued evolution IMHO. We shall see. I am very happy to return. Keith

I wouldn't get too caught up with the renderings because I don't think the end result will necessarily mirror this. I do think for the size of the staterooms that the original Crystal standard rooms provided a lot of draw space and I commend them for that. I think that in the PS and PH they could have done better in the original design. In time, they did with the PH on Serenity when they created the two desks and the additional shelving on the side facing the bed with the regular desk. And when they moved the TV they enhanced that area with an additional shelf. On Serenity we alway preferred the PH over the PS because of the storage and even the desks and chairs. On Serenity in the PS the make up counter in the master bedroom is very small and the desk in the main area is so so with a stool. In fact, that is why some put their computer on the dining room table. People who design do not think IMHO. I see this everywhere including when they built a fitness center nearby us. They have a wrap around track but the wall in that particular workout room were not down to the floor and halfway up to the ceiling. Before they created a dedicated indoor cycling room the music we would play would be too loud for the walkers but when they taught Yoga and you want it quiet the walkers who were talking disturbed the yoga. The first time we got a tour of the center my wife said this design will not work. She was right. Eventually they added more wall but because of the AC they couldn't have closed it up entirely unless they spent even more money. So what looks nice in terms of a design is often impractical. But in the end somehow we all find ways to manage. My wife and I on our first world cruise had a standard room and we had something like 8 full suitcases and I remember the closet was fully used with not an inch to spare and we figured out how to make it work. Same issue at hotels. The good news is we aren't buying the place or living there on a full time basis. Keith

Like Vince, I am sure they are not being touched. They are not doing anything to the existing rooms. Keith

Does this mean your grade is a D. Better than an F.

It sounds like you might have been there when at the time they introduced the modern cuisine but so much more changed. This is what I remind people. Crystal evolved more than most of the other lines. Well back to the topic of the thread. Keith

I thought so. Personally I don't think the new Crystal will be a lot different than the old one. I do think it will take the attributes of old Crystal and enhance them. But so much changed from 10 years ago. The ships look a lot different. Open Dining. Inclusive. Lots more entertainment choices. Two menus in the dining room. So much changed and it addressed many of the things people who liked other luxury lines would complain about .

When was the last time you sailed Crystal?

Obviously and that is true for every ship and every line we have sailed.

On the Crystal site they note the following: My guest but I suspect there will be storage and I suspect in the new suites there will be some kind of desk for a computer and a make up area but as they say time will tell. Keith Fares based on double occupancy (with exception of Solo Guest Room category) and vary by location on the ship. Solo Guest Rooms can only be booked on a single occupancy basis as fare shown. Fares include "destination fees" (i.e., fees, charges, tolls and taxes imposed on Crystal by governmental or quasi-governmental authorities as well as third party fees and charges arising from a ship's presence in a harbor or port). The renderings, photographs, and specifications displayed on this website are provided for convenience only. They should not be relied upon as representations, express or implied, of the final detail of the suites and guest rooms. Crystal expressly reserves the right to make modifications, revisions, and changes it deems desirable in its sole and absolute discretion. Dimensions and square footage are approximate and may vary with actual construction. Decor, designs, and layouts may vary within suite and guest room categories. Please contact 1-888-616-5291 for more information on suite and guest room offerings.

On our visits to Lima, Peru when we would have lunch out on tours I would think of the influence that cuisine from this country had on his approach with Nobu restaurants. I look at Nobu as a combination of Japanese and Peruvian. On Endeavor we could tell the difference between Nobu and the Cuisine served in Uma Uma even though it was made by the same chefs who were trained by Nobu. Whatever people want to call it IMHO Nobo cuisine is wonderful. We became fans of the cuisine from the first time we said on Serenity in 2005. Back then the sampler trio was a great way to get a taste of several items and I remember the first time we had his Black Cod the taste was incredible. Keith

I thought this was a good one for today. This is true on and off the field, at companies and in volunteer efforts.

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I agree with you. While the reservation agents do know what room is what (classic, or not) it would save a lot of time having this on the deck plans. I have been told they are working on this so that the deck plans will know for each room whether or not it is classic. I am not sure the timeline for when this information will be updated but it is one of several items in the works. Keith

Yes Keith

oops yes. Sorry. Keith

Yes 9063 was a SH. and it is now 9063 and since there are no changes it would have the shower and no tub as these did not have new tubs when Seabreeze Categories were created. Keith

I don't see changes on Serenity for Deck 10 or 11 for the new Aquarmarine. The two on Deck 9 ; 9001, and 9002 are new. So I would go with the PH's on Deck 10 and 11 that are in the old plan I provided because from what I can tell they will not be converted. Just have your TA confirm this. You are right. The former PH's on Serenity have the two desks including makeup area. Although smaller than a PS we have always liked the PH better on Serenity. On Symphony we prefer the PS and also enjoyed the Seabreeze equivalent of the PS on Symphony but not on Serenity. Keith

Good thing I didn't say many or a lot like you have. Remember the hard time I was given about using those words when I spoke about the many crew who are returning. On a related note what I said is correct. A lot, many or whatever word someone wants to use to describe that lots of former crew will be on board is correct. And that is fact even if some want to dismiss that. But it sounds like the company mentioned does not run many casinos. Keith

Pat, at this time, I do not know whether or not any work is being done to them. Keith Serenity-Deck-Plan.pdf

I took screen shots so couldn't fit it all in. I did find the one for Symphony so I am adding the one I posted and right below it the key. Still looking for Serenity Key.

Not sure when the enrichment program will be known. This is a work in progress as is entertainment. Keith

And remember the 5% is off the net of Cruise Fare minus the Destination Fee and that is true of both Crystal Society and back-to-back savings. Keith

I vote for indoor Paddle Tennis or a Basketball Court. In all seriousness like most things some don't care whether or not there is a casino, some like it but wil still cruise whether or not there is one and some won't cruise without one. I get all points of view because as we all know from this board some feel the same way about a Fitness Center. As to revenue, I am sure it brings in revenue but whether or not it made money is certainly not something most or any of us know. As the late Yogi Berra said "It ain't over till it's over" so let's wait to see what Crystal says and for the final details on this space. On a positive note some people are going to save some money without a casino. Just saying. For me this is my type of Casino. No money and I was a winner and my winning prize was a stuffed animal in case you care to know. Keith

I couldn't fit everything in one photo per ship but these are the former deck plans for Symphony and Serenity. So if you look at this the suites are either the classic ones as they aren't changed for a few are the Seabreeze. Remember Seabreeze were added to deck 10 on Serenity in 2018. Two of the PS equivalents which are 10104 and 10105 and the Sea Breeze PH equivalents are in Pink on the diagram such as 10097. Symphony Sea Breeze rooms were added in late 2017 and they were added to deck 9. PH equivalents are in Purple and PS equivalents are in Tan such as 9082. So if you see some standard rooms missing on the new deck plans these will be newly made suites and not classic ones. Serenity Symphony Keith