smokng policy

[ivansbride1955]

My DH and I are both non-smokers, but others smoking generally doesn't bother me...unless its being blown directly in my face.

 

I do, however, find it interesting that I cannot bring an iron on board to press my clothes because of the fire hazard, but people are allowed to use open flames to light cigarettes. Unfortunately, it will probably take a fire on board a ship, caused by a smoker, to change the policy, let's just pray that there is no loss of life when the fire occurs.

[Kellie Poodle]

I have managed to avoid being annoyed by smoke on all the cruises I've taken and we do balconies so I'm just lucky, I guess. Except for one place.

 

I have filled out a complaint card on every cruise about one thing and no one seems to care at RCI.

 

I'm an early riser and I like a half cup of coffee before I hit the gym or power walk the deck. The only place to get coffee that early in the AM is on the pool deck. There are two sides to that deck, a smoking side and a non-smoking side. Why oh why must RCI keep the coffee urn on the smoking side?

 

The majority of mornings I just hold my breath and get my coffee while someone hovers over me with a lit cigarette hanging from their lips waiting for me to finish.

 

I have tried sneaking up to the machine when there doesn't seem to be anyone around only to have smoke blown at me.

 

On my soap box:

 

I personally don't care what smokers do to themselves, but I wish they would realize that I don't want to breathe it and I don't want my clothes to smell from their smoke.

 

I'm a cancer survivor. I went through hell and back and my own bad habits contributed to my agony. I can accept that, but I can't control the fact that I can get sick again because of a stranger's habits.

 

Yes, smokers you have the right to smoke but ask yourselves if you have the right to inflict the consequences of your habit on others. It's an issue of health, not just one person's annoyance. To believe that you are not effecting others is just plain arrogant.

 

Okay, I'm stepping down.

[rkmw]

I have managed to avoid being annoyed by smoke on all the cruises I've taken and we do balconies so I'm just lucky, I guess. Except for one place.

 

I have filled out a complaint card on every cruise about one thing and no one seems to care at RCI.

 

I'm an early riser and I like a half cup of coffee before I hit the gym or power walk the deck. The only place to get coffee that early in the AM is on the pool deck. There are two sides to that deck, a smoking side and a non-smoking side. Why oh why must RCI keep the coffee urn on the smoking side?

 

The majority of mornings I just hold my breath and get my coffee while someone hovers over me with a lit cigarette hanging from their lips waiting for me to finish.

 

I have tried sneaking up to the machine when there doesn't seem to be anyone around only to have smoke blown at me.

 

On my soap box:

 

I personally don't care what smokers do to themselves, but I wish they would realize that I don't want to breathe it and I don't want my clothes to smell from their smoke.

 

I'm a cancer survivor. I went through hell and back and my own bad habits contributed to my agony. I can accept that, but I can't control the fact that I can get sick again because of a stranger's habits.

 

Yes, smokers you have the right to smoke but ask yourselves if you have the right to inflict the consequences of your habit on others. It's an issue of health, not just one person's annoyance. To believe that you are not effecting others is just plain arrogant.

 

Okay, I'm stepping down.

 

when we cruised on the Rhapsody they had the coffee machine on both sides of the pool deck so any non smokers didnt have to come on the smoking side

[Kellie Poodle]

when we cruised on the Rhapsody they had the coffee machine on both sides of the pool deck so any non smokers didnt have to come on the smoking side

 

When I cruised Rhapsody in 07 on the Australia/New Zealand trip, it was on the smoking side only.

 

Both sides would make a lot of sense. It would make everyone happy.

[scorpluvsdolphins]

That is why I book a balcony so I can sit out there, read a book and smoke. I do think they should keep the starboard side balconies for smokers and the port side balconies for non smokers. That way if you get a starboard side balcony then you know it might have smokers. They could charge say $10 more for that side of the ship.

 

To the response about not being able to smoke in NYC inside, you can just walk 50 or so feet outside to smoke.... you can't just walk 50 feet outside to smoke on a ship...

 

I am a smoker, but I am glad that restuarants don't allow smoking inside.

 

Usually casinos have the non smoking night on formal nights. It is usually dead in there until about 11:00 or 12:00 when they allow the smoking to resume. I have to admit it is nicer w/o all that smoke in the casino.

[celle]

I think the issue comes down to finding a happy median. My DW and I won an upgrade on one of our cruises, and yes I did smoke on the balcony. I did not think of the other balconies... I apologies to anyone who might have been uncomfortable from my smoke.

 

My wife does not smoke, I do. I do not smoke inside the house (in the garage yes). I cannot smoke on the property of my unit (fire marshall can't find a suitable area). Aboard the Canadian Navy ships you cannot smoke inside the vessel, it is against Canadian law to smoke in the workplace (even on submarines...).

 

Normally I will smoke on the pool deck aboard the ships. I even try to curtail my smoking during the high jogging times. I do consider it a treat to sit in the pub to have a beer and a smoke, but I always try to sit near the smoke eater. Normally however, I will go outside and smoke there... it's beautiful outside (not like 5 feet of snow and a bitterly cold wind chill of Canada).

 

I think courtesy, both from smokers and non, is whats required.

 

I agree with you.

 

We also need a compromise. DH smokes. I don't.

 

At home, we have reached a compromise we can both accept.

 

DH does not smoke inside the house and is used to not smoking indoors at all. He will smoke in a bar where it is permitted, but probably would not if the rules were changed. Where we live, smoking in bars is not permitted.

 

He is a considerate smoker and tries not to upset non-smokers, but he will smoke on our balcony if smoking is allowed. If approached politely, he will wait until people on the adjoining balconies are not using their balconies. But, if he is approached rudely, then he will assert his right to smoke where the rules allow.

[Stags14]

That is why I book a balcony so I can sit out there, read a book and smoke. I do think they should keep the starboard side balconies for smokers and the port side balconies for non smokers. That way if you get a starboard side balcony then you know it might have smokers. They could charge say $10 more for that side of the ship.

 

To the response about not being able to smoke in NYC inside, you can just walk 50 or so feet outside to smoke.... you can't just walk 50 feet outside to smoke on a ship...

 

I am a smoker, but I am glad that restuarants don't allow smoking inside.

 

Usually casinos have the non smoking night on formal nights. It is usually dead in there until about 11:00 or 12:00 when they allow the smoking to resume. I have to admit it is nicer w/o all that smoke in the casino.

 

Honestly, the smoke from another person's balcony doesn't really bother me. It's in the open air, if I REALLY need to I'm fine with going inside for a few minutes. We actually aren't getting a balcony on our next trip b/c of the little amount of time we spent out there.

 

In regards to having to walk longer than 50 feet - that's all a part of trying to find a compromise. Maybe a smoking lounge somewhere kind of like the cigar lounges they have. I dunno... but I don't think it's right to allow smoking at the main venues. Plus, I'm sure you'd smoke less which probably doesn't bother you...

[jmraggs]

Adventure of the Seas is non smoking in the English pub. As is the whole promenade area.

 

 

We sailed out of San Juan and I don't recall the English Pub being non-smoking back in 2008, maybe it was and I don't remember. All promenades are non-smoking I believe, well, on Allure it was non-smoking, but all of the smoke from the Boleros seemed to fill the air in the promenade quite well.:rolleyes:

[teajak]

Interesting! Could you please point me in the direction of one, then?

 

There are none. All the cruise lines allow smoking to some degree. Please see the information at the link below:

 

http://www.cruisecritic.com/articles.cfm?ID=225

There is no smoking in the public rooms, including the casino, balconies or rooms on Celebrity and it IS enforced. Beautiful ships that don't reek of stale tobacco smoke. I like RCI but love the smoke free atmosphere more, so we are diamond members that have switched.:D

[teajak]

I get a kick out of references to the non-smoking cruises that failed. The non-smoking ship was one of Carnival's smallest and least attractive. Plus it left out of Port Canaveral. I've no idea what the itinerary was, but I clearly remember the ship because it had a huge circle with a cigarette inside it and a slash through the circle. That was painted on the sides of the ship.

 

When I saw that ship, I was on Mariner of the Seas. Even non-smokers such as myself would prefer to be on Mariner with all its attractive amenities than to be on the tiny ship relegated to avid non-smokers. No wonder the concept failed. No surprise at all.

 

I recall back in the days of smoking sections in restauarnts in Florida. The non-smoking section was usually in the least attractive seating of the house...similar to what Carnival did with their ill-fated non-smoking cruise ship. Of course their half-hearted experiment failed, but to this day is repeatedly cited as the reason why non-smoking cruises are doomed to failure.

They said the restaraunts and bars would go broke in Florida when the smoking ban went in, didn't happen, they said Celebrity would lose customers when the new smoking policy went in, didn't happen, ships are usually full. The tide has turned, thank you very much.:D

[seaofwonder]

The English pub on the Adventure of the Seas did NOT allow smoking last week. DH thought this was weird because it was allowed on Liberty in April.

[seaofwonder]

They said the restaraunts and bars would go broke in Florida when the smoking ban went in, didn't happen, they said Celebrity would lose customers when the new smoking policy went in, didn't happen, ships are usually full. The tide has turned, thank you very much.:D

 

Actually it likely increased their revenues. Smokers like to sit around after dinner hogging up a table....now they split right away to go and smoke :-)

 

Casinos in my hometown (in Canada) went non-smoking and they said the same thing....but when there are no other options the smokers still came.

[gerif]

They said the restaraunts and bars would go broke in Florida when the smoking ban went in, didn't happen, they said Celebrity would lose customers when the new smoking policy went in, didn't happen, ships are usually full. The tide has turned, thank you very much.:D

 

Same thing here in NJ - oh, the gloom and doom. Now you can't even get a parking spot near the local sports bars. The only hold-outs we have are the casinos in AC - so we go to Yonkers which is completely smoke-free and packed as well.

[jmraggs]

They said the restaraunts and bars would go broke in Florida when the smoking ban went in, didn't happen, they said Celebrity would lose customers when the new smoking policy went in, didn't happen, ships are usually full. The tide has turned, thank you very much.:D

 

Same thing here in NJ - oh, the gloom and doom. Now you can't even get a parking spot near the local sports bars. The only hold-outs we have are the casinos in AC - so we go to Yonkers which is completely smoke-free and packed as well.

 

Very true on both posts. I think the real difference is that the entire State of Florida is now non-smoking in restaurants, so everyone is on an even playing field since people that smoke also like to eat out like everyone else. Many of them have built outside dining areas to accommodate the smokers or they just go outside to have a smoke.

 

Now the cruise lines are different, if one cruise line prevents smoking anywhere, then the smokers would be more apt to cruise on another line that allows it I would think. I don't know if there'll ever be a happy medium.

[Trekker954]

Our last Navigator, they actually had a smoke free casino night. We happened to walk through that night and got a kick it was pretty empty. hmmmmm? We were on the Allure inaugural sailing (after the two or three free cruises to nowhere that some took) and couldn't get over the smokey smell in the casino already.

[CVU]

The English pub on the Adventure of the Seas did NOT allow smoking last week. DH thought this was weird because it was allowed on Liberty in April.

The Mariner in Jan. was non smoking but I read since it is back to smoking? It was great to be able to enjoy the singer and sit in there without the smoke!! The male singer was so happy too, he said his voice is a lot better without the smoke right in front of him while he plays his guitar and sings.

[NUMBERS 617]

I have told rccl this every time I sali with them. I did a transatlantic 2 years ago on the Independence and had some very heavy smokers next to me. We could not sit on our balcony nor could we leave our door open as the smoke drifted in. The casino on that trip was non smoking. I loved it but had to have them open tables for me as it was so empty. Smokers have their rights and one side smoking and one side non would be a perfect solution. The following year we did a transatlantic on Celebrity. Just sailed on the Alure. The smoke smell permiated the hallways by the dining room.

[jackinbox]

My wife and I are non-smokers, but we found that smoking wasn't much of an issue for us on the Independence Of The Seas. The one side of Deck 4 that had a smoking bar, we would not have even noticed if we didn't actually see the people smoking. The air flow was very good in there. We didn't notice any stale smoke smell anywhere. Only a tiny section of the English Pub allowed smoking. I think some of these anti-smokers go a bit overboard with this crusade to have smoking banned everywhere. As long as people are considerate of me (and 95% of smokers usually are), I don't have any problem. The Casino was noticeably smoky, but not enough that I had to recuse myself.

 

Here in Indianapolis, smoking is a choice left up to the individual business. There are certain bars that have poor ventilation that I usually avoid because the smoke is so thick. We also go to some of the bars that are non-smoking. I like having that choice and I like that the business owner has a choice. People will vote with their wallets. I guess I'm just too much of a believer in the free market to think that Government should make the rules. Luckily, the U.S. Government has zero say in what the cruise lines do about smoking. If I would change anything on RCCL, I suppose it might be wise to have balconies on one side of the ship to be non-smoking. I think there's a way to accommodate every "reasonable" person.

[Maryscooking]

We are just off a Celebrity cruise and loved the lack of cigarette smoke. It is a huge factor for us to consider, but we will still cruise RCI, especially when my DD is with us.

 

I'm considering packing some of that Febreeze odor eater room spray for our next trip. If I having smoking balcony neighbors, I wonder if the occasional spritz would help the odor from the wafting smoke? I know its windy, and the whole idea might be ridiculous, but maybe its worth a try anyway?

[babies12]

We are just off a Celebrity cruise and loved the lack of cigarette smoke. It is a huge factor for us to consider, but we will still cruise RCI, especially when my DD is with us.

 

I'm considering packing some of that Febreeze odor eater room spray for our next trip. If I having smoking balcony neighbors, I wonder if the occasional spritz would help the odor from the wafting smoke? I know its windy, and the whole idea might be ridiculous, but maybe its worth a try anyway?

 

Febreeze....used on a balcony, seriously????

[satxdiver]

I have had smokers on adjacent balcony's. Luckily it was not too bad but I did have to close the balcony door to keep it from coming into my room. On the Mariner I wanted to go into the pub but could not due to the smoke. I went in one day when it was closed and it reeked with smoke and I had to leave. I have a light case of asthma and smoke really works me over. I was glad that Schooner's was smoke free so at least I could listen to the piano player. I don't begrudge smokers, but I don't want to smell their smoke.

 

Restaurants here are already smoke free by city ordnance. A new city ordnance just passed will make the bars also smoke free. Finally I will be able to go to a local bar and not gag.

[Maryscooking]

Febreeze....used on a balcony, seriously????

 

Yeah, the room spray stuff. I haven't actually tried it or anything, but just trying to come up with something that would help in the event of having smoking neighbors (short of trying to ask the neighbors not to smoke out there, which I think is rude to ask if smoking is allowed).

 

I know its windy out there, but if the smoke can hang around long enough to be smelled, maybe the odor eater/room spray could hang around long enough to help with the smoke.

[Stags14]

My wife and I are non-smokers, but we found that smoking wasn't much of an issue for us on the Independence Of The Seas. The one side of Deck 4 that had a smoking bar, we would not have even noticed if we didn't actually see the people smoking. The air flow was very good in there. We didn't notice any stale smoke smell anywhere. Only a tiny section of the English Pub allowed smoking. I think some of these anti-smokers go a bit overboard with this crusade to have smoking banned everywhere. As long as people are considerate of me (and 95% of smokers usually are), I don't have any problem. The Casino was noticeably smoky, but not enough that I had to recuse myself.

 

Here in Indianapolis, smoking is a choice left up to the individual business. There are certain bars that have poor ventilation that I usually avoid because the smoke is so thick. We also go to some of the bars that are non-smoking. I like having that choice and I like that the business owner has a choice. People will vote with their wallets. I guess I'm just too much of a believer in the free market to think that Government should make the rules. Luckily, the U.S. Government has zero say in what the cruise lines do about smoking. If I would change anything on RCCL, I suppose it might be wise to have balconies on one side of the ship to be non-smoking. I think there's a way to accommodate every "reasonable" person.

 

The English Pub is pretty small to begin with - not sure splitting that area would really make much of a difference. And you were lucky to not have a smokey casino because even most smokers will admit that it is heavily polluted in there.

 

Don't worry, eventually Indy will catch on and they too will have a no smoking ordinance. Govt's made the change when they realized that today, there are more non-smokers in most areas than smokers. Almost everyone I know who smoked has quit - some quite because of the no smoking in bar/restaurant laws. I'm against the gov't stepping in and dictating people's lifestyles as well - but these people can still smoke, just outside. And when it comes to protecting our health I would have to say that the govt's that have had enough juevos to ban smoking deserve applaud. It's not only the patrons who can enjoy these places more but it's also the employees.

[uksimonusa]

The Mariner in Jan. was non smoking but I read since it is back to smoking? It was great to be able to enjoy the singer and sit in there without the smoke!! The male singer was so happy too, he said his voice is a lot better without the smoke right in front of him while he plays his guitar and sings.

 

 

Not only is the Wig and Gavel smoking again, it is full smoking, very inconsiderate to the singer in there. When smoking was restricted to the bar area it was not so bad, but with people smoking right in front of the singer, very bad for him

[NavarreCruiser]

We have never experienced this.

 

 

 

We have never sailed on a Royal ship were the English pub was non-smoking.

 

We were on the Navigator TA a couple years ago and then stayed on for another cruise. The English pub was smoking on the TA and not on the next cruise. Lynda