michmike Posted March 6, 2012 #26 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Just an additional note.. one poster said that Dyan Cannon was 50 at the time this was filmed. Being born in '37, she was actually 60. Even more impressive when you think about what she looked like in this film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infi Posted March 6, 2012 #27 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Thanks for sharing the history of the old Westerdam/Homeric, and especially the old photos. Have many fond memories of Home lines and cruises sailed with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsMuir Posted March 6, 2012 #28 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I can't let this thread continue without mentioning Elaine Stritch, who played Mavis, Dyan Cannon's mother (I think), in "Out to Sea." She blew me away with her rendition of Stephen Sondheim's "I'm Still Here" at his 80th birthday concert in 2010. No, I wasn't there; I bought the DVD from PBS after it aired. Ms Stritch followed the likes of Bernadette Peters, Patti LuPone, and other fabulous Broadway ladies in red gowns. When she came onstage in her red pants suit and cap, the audience went nuts. Mrs M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himself Posted March 6, 2012 #29 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Maasdam's current hotel manager worked on Westerdam II as a clerk in the Admin. Section ;) I had heard the "haunted" stories also, but he (MADM's HM) has never seen any para-normal activity. Like Dave (Retired Mustang) stated, one can see her (Thomson Dream) frequently in Bridgetown, Barbados I was only in Bridgetown, Babados once and it poured rain so hard that most of us stayed on the ship. I was on the Volendam for that cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted March 6, 2012 #30 Share Posted March 6, 2012 ..............There is a scene where they are running though the galley, and you see the executive chef, with his Chefs hat on. Copper was wondering if you remember his name by any chance, He's probably retired and in Fiji by now. I just cant remember it anymoreHe also worked on Amsterdam or Rotterdam world cruises I recall. Yeah way back in the 90's starting to feel old:eek: .........................quote] Max van Bergen, perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elycelynne Posted March 6, 2012 #31 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I can't let this thread continue without mentioning Elaine Stritch, who played Mavis, Dyan Cannon's mother (I think), in "Out to Sea." She blew me away with her rendition of Stephen Sondheim's "I'm Still Here" at his 80th birthday concert in 2010. No, I wasn't there; I bought the DVD from PBS after it aired. Ms Stritch followed the likes of Bernadette Peters, Patti LuPone, and other fabulous Broadway ladies in red gowns. When she came onstage in her red pants suit and cap, the audience went nuts. Mrs M She was definitely a hoot in this movie! I still chuckle at her line -- "I have to take a crap and a nap, and I don't need an audience for either one!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himself Posted March 6, 2012 #32 Share Posted March 6, 2012 There was a Wolfgang who lived in India but was German. He was a wonderful chef. I was on the Statendam and then he went over to the Nieuw Amsterdam and then was on the Zaandam or Volendam for a while. He used to put out all kinds of reciepes for the people at the entrance to the main dining room. Is he the one you are speaking about? I heard he left the company a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted March 6, 2012 #33 Share Posted March 6, 2012 There was a Wolfgang who lived in India but was German. He was a wonderful chef. I was on the Statendam and then he went over to the Nieuw Amsterdam and then was on the Zaandam or Volendam for a while. He used to put out all kinds of reciepes for the people at the entrance to the main dining room. Is he the one you are speaking about? I heard he left the company a few years ago. Wolfgang Wasshausen, father! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilsonqbc Posted March 6, 2012 #34 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Yes Himself, Thank You very much Father and Copper, I had his and a few others contact info, but it went missing over the years. Going to try the Facebook thing to see if I can find him. We had some very interesting conversations, and many laughs. Yes was a very good chef, Thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himself Posted March 6, 2012 #35 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Wolfgang Wasshausen, father! ;) Yes, John, that is the Wolfgang I was referring to in my comments posted above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
califlady Posted March 6, 2012 #36 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I was on the Westerdam II on the final part of a wonderful cruise tour in September of 2001. We were in Ketchikan on 9/11. When arriving in Vancouver on the 13th all aircraft was still grounded and we were rather "stuck" in this beautiful city. The Westerdam's next sailing was canceled and anyone who had arrived in preparation for that up-coming cruise was put aboard a Carnival ship for their voyage. The Westerdam was then actually used as a floating hotel for passengers of several different ships. They put us up and fed us for four days at absolutely no cost. Finally on the 17th when some airlines began flying within the U.S., we were bused by HAL to Seattle's Sea/Tac airport where I was able to catch my Alaska flight home. It was a wonderful gesture by HAL at a most tragic time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdvmd Posted March 6, 2012 #37 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Love the movie! Found it in a closet a couple of weeks ago. It is a videotape! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serendipity1499 Posted March 6, 2012 #38 Share Posted March 6, 2012 What a wonderful thread this is..Thank you for starting it..:) Have never seen the movie, but now would really like to see it..will look for it on Amazon.. Thanks also to Copper & others, who have contributed to the thread..Love to hear about the old ships.. Cheers...:)Betty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon1 Posted March 6, 2012 #39 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Thanks for the Westerdam History lesson, John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilsonqbc Posted March 7, 2012 #40 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Well after googlen' some faces I think it was Joachim Barrelmann, I do remember meeting Wolfgang also after seeing his picture and wonderfull recipes for Chocolate chip cookies and Bread pudding, but now I think it was maybe Joachim, Maybe he was 2nd like sous chef ? back then. Anyways it was the Chef in the Scene, in 1996 /1997 era I guess when the movie was filmed , He was only around for a year or so, then met him again on Amsterdam or Rotterdam. Too far away to remember now! Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elsie60 Posted March 7, 2012 #41 Share Posted March 7, 2012 She was also my first introduction to cruising in January, 2002. She was a lovely ship. I remember being so sad when I heard she crashed into a dock in Egypt while she was the Costa Europa. It was in 2010. I believe there were 3 crew members killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paticakes Posted March 7, 2012 #42 Share Posted March 7, 2012 What a wonderful thread. Sailing on the Westerdam on 3/18. Going to go find my Out to Sea movie and watch it this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr green Posted March 7, 2012 #43 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Thank you for this link. I clearly says "Homeric(2)" built for Home Lines in 1986... so that is not the older Homeric I was remembering. Very interesting article. m-- I sailed on the original Homeric in 1955, and enjoyed the journey immensely from Dover to Quebec. I may upset some cruisers when I say that I enjoyed that trip more than the cruise on SS Norway some 50 years later. We had free wine at lunch and dinner, and drinks were duty free at 10c for rum or whiskey, and we even had entertainment. Yes I have the movie, and I have also sailed on that 'Westerdam' too.:) john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilsonqbc Posted March 7, 2012 #44 Share Posted March 7, 2012 I think he was on Maasdam a few years ago too, wonder if he's still with them this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elsie60 Posted March 7, 2012 #45 Share Posted March 7, 2012 In July 2009, Carnival Corporation announced that Costa Europa will join British tour operator Thomson Cruises under a 10-year bareboat charter beginning in April 2010. Under the agreement, Thomson has an option to purchase the ship after five years. She was renamed Thomson Dream and is currently operating for the British company Thank you for the great information and the beautiful pictures! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himself Posted March 7, 2012 #46 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Yes, John, that is the Wolfgang I was referring to in my comments posted above. John: Did Wolfgang leave the company? He was an outstanding Executive Chef. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted March 7, 2012 #47 Share Posted March 7, 2012 I think he was on Maasdam a few years ago too, wonder if he's still with them this season? Ex. Chef Joachim "Jock" Barelmann just finished a contract on Zaandam last January Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted March 7, 2012 #48 Share Posted March 7, 2012 John: Did Wolfgang leave the company? He was an outstanding Executive Chef. Yes, he did father, a while back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob brown Posted March 7, 2012 #49 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Sorry Bob. can't tell you about Thomson's plans for Thomson Dream, ex-Westerdam II;) Yes, Thomsom currently also operates two other former HAL vessels, the two "N" class sisters Nieuw Amsterdam III, now Thomson Spirit and Noordam III, now Thomson Celebration Nieuw Amsterdam III returned officially under the umbrella of the Carnival Corp in 2002 after United States Lines (who had purchased her as Patriot) went belly-up. Cyprus-based Louis Cruises acquired her on a 10-yr bare-back charter but almost immediately sub-leased her to Thomson Cruises. She is still owned by HAL Noordam III, in Nov 2004, was also acquired by Louis Cruises and also sub-leased to Thomson Very interesting! So, from what you have said, the former Nieuw Amsterdam III (Thomson Spirit), 10 year lease is up sometime this year? Wonder what happens next? And is the former Noordam III (Thomson Celebration) also leased or did Louis actually buy her? I know its perhaps silly to even think of the possibility of HAL ever getting one of those ships back in its fleet, and rehabbed to supplement the Prinsendam on itineraries that the larger ships can't handle, but it I find it interesting think about it anyway.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casino Player Posted March 7, 2012 #50 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Sure this is around in here somewhere, but I searched and couldn't find it. Just curious if they are talking about the MS Westerdam in this review? You've got a number of stars in this comedy! Walter Matthau and Jack Lemmon star as a pair of friends who go to sea as Gentlemen Escorts to find new romance. In essence they are free dance partners for the many single woman on board. Jack promptly falls for Vivian (Gloria DeHaven) as a true romance, while Walter Matthau schemes to seduce a younger woman (Dyan Cannon) who appears wealthy and single. The ship is the Holland Westerdam, an actual luxury cruise ship. You get to see a lot of scenes on the ship - from the pool area, the restaurant, the ballroom and the deck. I really loved the smaller parts played by Hal Linden and especially Brent Spiner. The "Data" from Star Trek really shines here as the commanding cruise director. What makes the movie so special is that, in its release year of 1997, you had Lemmon being 71 years old, and Matthau being 77. The two men are still great actors. It gives you a great sense of how vibrant old age can be, if you keep your mind and body healthy. Sadly, both have since passed away, so this movie is a collector's item. What was even more surprising to me is how young Dyan Cannon looks. I loved her in Deathtrap, and while I watched this movie I thought she was a great actress but way too young for the Matthau character. I kept thinking of him as a cradle robber. Actually, she was born in 1937 - so she was 50 in the movie! In comparison, Gloria was 72. So in general, this was a cast with a lot of experience, that shows a great movie can be made without having to rely on teen starlets or the latest handsome face. Highly recommended! HHHHHEEEEELLLLLLLLLLOOOOO sfollenius: Have seen that movie several times. It is a really good movie. I am a big fan of Walter Matthau and Jack Lemmon. If you look at the credits many of the scenes on the ship were actually shot on the original Queen Mary which was retired in the late '60's and is a Hotel, Museum, and has restaurants. It is a real tourist attraction. The Queen Mary is berthed in Long Beach, CA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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