What name would you give the new HAL ship?

[Hawaiidan]

Wow some of you need to be in marketing, I can't come up with a dam thing :p.

 

 

Two takes GROSSDAM, However I think it will be known in the staff who had comissioned her as a Big Damm Mistake

[RuthC]

Rather than sell, IMO Carnival would do better to internally transfer those vessels:

 

Statendam, Ryndam and Maasdam to Cunard: After a few months each of extensive maintenance/renovations on their internal HVAC/Plumbing systems and renovation of the Loft/Club HAL areas as exclusive Queen's Grill dining rooms, they could serve well for the next 5-10 years as small cruiseliner alternatives to the Queens - rename them Caronia, Carinthia and Carpathia, put them on extended itineraries and charge the fares necessary to make them profitable while offering the service that makes the high fares justifiable.

 

Very interesting idea. If something like this were done to these ships, I could get interested in Cunard again.

I was too young for that line when I sailed her, but am ready to appreciate the Cunard atmosphere now.

[world~citizen]

Rather than sell, IMO Carnival would do better to internally transfer those vessels:

Statendam, Ryndam and Maasdam to Cunard: After a few months each of extensive maintenance/renovations on their internal HVAC/Plumbing systems and renovation of the Loft/Club HAL areas as exclusive Queen's Grill dining rooms, they could serve well for the next 5-10 years as small cruiseliner alternatives to the Queens - rename them Caronia, Carinthia and Carpathia, put them on extended itineraries and charge the fares necessary to make them profitable while offering the service that makes the high fares justifiable.

Veendam I would ship off to P&O Australia or Costa for the South American or Asian market.

 

This harkens to the days when Cunard sailed the "Green Goddess" (Caronia), a vessel for the "idle rich". Projecting the social consequences of current patterns of wealth distribution, the days of the "Goddess" may well have returned.

 

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

[seavoyager6]

And now let's head back to the real world

 

There is little or no demand for smaller, older, ships IMO especially for Cunard which has three beautiful newer ships two of which at 90 tons are already close to being considered smaller ships in these days of behemoths of the sea. They only recently sold a beloved older ship to Dubai

 

If those ships are too old or whatever for HAL, they'll be sold to a lower level regional line or scrapped.

 

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[sail7seas]

IF they spend heavy money on them, great. They are lovely ships.

But, if they were to do that, why not keep them in the HAL fleet and put the money and work into them?

The small ships still appeal to a large market of people and if the ships got the deficiences addressed, let HAL have them for more years.

 

I know it always comes down to money and Seabourne guests would expect to pay higher per diems than the vast majority of HAL guests so Statendam could operate at more hope of 'decent fares' under Seabourne than it can for HAL.

 

 

I (mostly) agree with you. :)

 

 

 

 

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There is little or no demand for smaller, older, ships IMO especially for Cunard which has three beautiful newer ships two of which at 90 tons are already close to being considered smaller ships in these days of behemoths of the sea. They only recently sold a beloved older ship to Dubai

 

If those ships are too old or whatever for HAL, they'll be sold to a lower level regional line or scrapped.

 

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YOu are probably right.

[CoronaCRZR]

Varendam

 

In honor of you, of course!

 

"Varen" is the Dutch word for "Sail"…!

 

 

 

I think ZeilDam, would be more in line with Sail.

[bepsf]

And now let's head back to the real world

 

There is little or no demand for smaller, older, ships IMO especially for Cunard which has three beautiful newer ships two of which at 90 tons are already close to being considered smaller ships in these days of behemoths of the sea. They only recently sold a beloved older ship to Dubai ...

 

That's the market those ships were originally designed for - However Carnival Corp bought Cunard which outranked HAL - and the slide began...

...Cunard is the only existing brand where these ships could reasonably fit and earn profits again.

 

Aronson also doesn't care very much for selling ships. QE2 only went because it had lasted so far beyond it's service life (39 years is a long career for any Transatlantic Liner: 25 is typical - 35 is stretching it), and was hopelessly outranked in size, accommodation and amenities by far lesser vessels...

...and because Dubai had the cash.

[Globaliser]

... and because Dubai had the cash.

Or so they thought at the time!

[world~citizen]

And now let's head back to the real world

 

There is little or no demand for smaller, older, ships IMO especially for Cunard which has three beautiful newer ships two of which at 90 tons are already close to being considered smaller ships in these days of behemoths of the sea. They only recently sold a beloved older ship to Dubai

 

If those ships are too old or whatever for HAL, they'll be sold to a lower level regional line or scrapped.

 

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Oceania started with the R ships and has done very well.

 

Affluent people will pay for exceptional service, if only because they can. I suspect there is room for a "Green Goddess" or two out there. Cunard seems the logical line to move in this direction.

 

Time will tell.

[serendipity1499]

My first choice would be the "Spaarndam" & second choice the "Granddam"..Another suggestion would be the "Delftdam"

 

Oceania started with the R ships and has done very well.

 

Affluent people will pay for exceptional service, if only because they can. I suspect there is room for a "Green Goddess" or two out there. Cunard seems the logical line to move in this direction.

 

Time will tell.

 

Agree, Oceania started with the "R" ships & did very well, but their new Marina now seems to be popular..However Oceania has very few kids cruising on them..

Unfortunately, most of the affluent are in a different age group than our children & grandchildren.. I believe HAL is trying to encourage more of the younger generation to cruise & that generation seems to believe that "bigger is better";)[/

Betty

[Alcarondas]

Spaarndam

 

 

This is beginning to grow on me.

 

Just imagine! When passengers start whining about trivial things,

the captain can roar out "THIS IS SPAARN-DAM!!" and kick them overboard.:p

[aliaschief]

Personally, I would like to see the tradition continued with the continuance of ships name that has been retired. That being said, I personally would like the new ship called Hooverdam!

[mamaofami]

Just not Veendam 11

[Himself]

HOOVERDAM would be good as we have the "spotless fleet." On a more serios note I suspect HAL willsell either the Veendam or Statendam and this new ship would adopt the name of the sold ship.

[vicocala]

Hagendam or Bruseldam for the Hague or Brussels. I do like Melanie's Granddam too!

[Copper10-8]

Before they came up with Eurodam (picked as the winner of a naming contest), HAL ships have always had traditional names in their now 139-year history. Providing no ships are sold prior to this new vessel going into service in 2015, the following traditional, used at least once, HAL names are out there:

Didam II - pronounced Dee-dahm

Dubbeldam II - pronounced Duhbbel-dahm

Edam V - pronounced A-dahm

Leerdam III - pronounced Lehrdahm

Obdam II - pronounced Op-dahm

Potsdam II - Only name without a "Dutch connection"

Schiedam II - pronounced Skeedahm (very hard to pronounce the Dutch "sch" for non-Dutch speakers w/o spitting;))

Spaarndam III - pronounced as in "Spa"-urn-dahm

Werkendam II - pronounced Bear, take away the B, substitute a W - cun-dahm

Time will tell

[sail7seas]

HOOVERDAM would be good as we have the "spotless fleet." On a more serios note I suspect HAL willsell either the Veendam or Statendam and this new ship would adopt the name of the sold ship.

 

Before they came up with Eurodam (picked as the winner of a naming contest), HAL ships have always had traditional names in their now 139-year history. Providing no ships are sold prior to this new vessel going into service in 2015, the following traditional, used at least once, HAL names are out there:

 

Didam II - pronounced Dee-dahm

Dubbeldam II - pronounced Duhbbel-dahm

Edam V - pronounced A-dahm

Leerdam III - pronounced Lehrdahm

Obdam II - pronounced Op-dahm

Potsdam II - Only name without a "Dutch connection" I can imagine that quickly being changed to "Putz -dam". :D

Schiedam II - pronounced Skeedahm (very hard to pronounce the Dutch "sch" for non-Dutch speakers w/o spitting;))

Spaarndam III - pronounced as in "Spa"-urn-dahm

Werkendam II - pronounced Bear, take away the B, substitute a W - cun-dahm

 

Time will tell

 

IF they are able to sell Statendam and/or Veendam, I agree the new ship will be the next generation of that name. All along we've heard "Grand Statendam" floated around as the next name. :)

 

We'll see.

 

I'm eager to see some deck plans, some info about new and different and what they are adding.

[ASIWISH]

All along we've heard "Grand Statendam" floated around as the next name. :)

 

We'll see.

 

 

:):):)

[OVgirl]

My vote goes to Leerdam III

[djg541]

Dam De Damdam..?

[GeorgesGal]

To go a bit against tradition - Dambig! or to give it three syllables like many of her ships, Toodambig.

[Himself]

If we want to be creative why not the:

Whogivesadam

[mpricecs]

couldn'tgiveadam

[cmdchiefthom]

Perhaps to keep true to tradition and name a new ship after a Dutch maritime town or compass point, the town of Monnickendam, north of Amsterdam seems to be available:o

[Himself]

Perhaps to keep true to tradition and name a new ship after a Dutch maritime town or compass point, the town of Monnickendam, north of Amsterdam seems to be available:o

 

That will work!