indokiwi Posted November 4, 2013 #1 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Hey Everyone, This just came across my stock ticker: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/stein-kruse-become-ceo-holland-174200104.html A new group, Holland America Group has been formed, of which Stein Kruse will now oversee HAL, Seabourn, Princess Cruises and the land-based Holland America-Princess Alaska land operations. Interesting reading.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linda&Vern Posted November 4, 2013 #2 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Hey Everyone, This just came across my stock ticker: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/stein-kruse-become-ceo-holland-174200104.html A new group, Holland America Group has been formed, of which Stein Kruse will now oversee HAL, Seabourn, Princess Cruises and the land-based Holland America-Princess Alaska land operations. Interesting reading.... Thank you for posting. Interesting news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voyageur9 Posted November 4, 2013 #3 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Exerpts from the announcement. Stein Kruse To Become CEO Of The Holland America Group MIAMI, Nov. 4, 2013 /PRNewswire/ -- Carnival Corporation & plc (NYSE/LSE: CCL; NYSE: CUK) today announced that effective December 1, 2013, Stein Kruse, currently president and CEO of Holland America Line, is being appointed CEO of the Holland America Group, adding Princess Cruises and Holland America Princess Alaska land operations to his current responsibilities of Holland America Line and Seabourn. Kruse will report to Carnival Corporation & plc President and CEO Arnold Donald. In his expanded role, effective December 1, Kruse also will replace Micky Arison as chairman of the board of MANCO, the UK-based entity which oversees operations of Carnival Australia including P&O Cruises, the number one cruise line in the Australian market. The newly created Holland America Group operates 41 cruise ships with over 36,000 employees worldwide who annually deliver 25 million passenger cruise days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare eroller Posted November 4, 2013 #4 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Several key changes and appointments were announced by Carnival Corp today. 1. The "Holland America Group" is created, and in addition to HAL and Seabourn, Princess Cruises, Princess/HAL Alaska Land Tours, P&O Australia, and Carnival Australia will fall under this group. Stein Kruse will lead the Holland America Group under the title of CEO and report to Carnival Corp. President & CEO Arnold Donald. 2. Alan Buckelew, the current current President and CEO of Princess Cruises will take on the new role of COO Carnival Corp., reporting to Carnival Corp. President & CEO Arnold Donald. 3. Jan Swartz, currently EVP Sales & Marketing of Princess Cruises is promoted to President of Princess Cruises, reporting to Stein Kruse the CEO of The Holland America Group. 4. Howard Frank, currently Vice Chairman and COO of Carnival Corp., and Micky Arisons right hand man the past 25 years, will step down from the position. He will stay on in a consulting role as special advisor to the CEO and Chairman of Carnival Corp. So what is my personal take on all this? In the past Carnival Corp. was well known and regarded for keeping the brands quite separate and pretty much letting them run themselves as individual business units. With this announcement and others in the past, this arrangement seems to be fading out. More and more brands are now combined into a group reporting structure. What the implications are I can't say, but hopefully it's not a further dilution of brand identity. Ernie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iancal Posted November 4, 2013 #5 Share Posted November 4, 2013 So, does that mean that Princess will start going downhill like HAL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innlady1 Posted November 4, 2013 #6 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Interesting. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bnxshs Posted November 4, 2013 #7 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Interesting. Thanks! It will surely be interesting to see what the results, as we passengers see them, of this will be for the near and far future of these lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxmantoo Posted November 4, 2013 #8 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Hopefully, HAL and Princess will implement identical wine policies and wine lists aboard their ships :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innlady1 Posted November 4, 2013 #9 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Hopefully, HAL and Princess will implement identical wine policies and wine lists aboard their ships :D That would be great...maybe we should start a new email campaign to Mr. Kruse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kazu Posted November 4, 2013 #10 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Hopefully, HAL and Princess will implement identical wine policies and wine lists aboard their ships :D or Princess will be as restrictive as HAL and have a lesser wine list:eek: Time will tell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
startwin Posted November 4, 2013 #11 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Thanks for letting us know, that's really interesting news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted November 4, 2013 #12 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Wow...... Mr. Kruse is a very busy man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJSULIBRARIAN Posted November 4, 2013 #13 Share Posted November 4, 2013 So, does that mean that Princess will start going downhill like HAL? Flame me away, but I think this is a rather harsh statement. Both these lines are very similar already with the exception of several much larger ships on Princess. The comments on the Princess boards about the new Royal Princess are not that great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjw869 Posted November 4, 2013 #14 Share Posted November 4, 2013 (edited) So, does that mean that Princess will start going downhill like HAL? You'll know when you see plastic dishes and glasses in the Lido and paper hand towels (instead of cloth towels) in the public restrooms on HAL ships! Edited November 4, 2013 by kjw869 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comfortcove Posted November 4, 2013 #15 Share Posted November 4, 2013 I hope this is good news, maybe they will start combining cruise credits! It would be great to think they will remain distinct lines, while incorporating the best of both in their respective products. We will see......maybe they will become more alike in a negative way. That guy has a big job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruz chic Posted November 4, 2013 #16 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Hal could learn something from Princess. I've done quite a few cruises on Princess and they never struggle in the MDR like HAL does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indokiwi Posted November 4, 2013 Author #17 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Here is a really nice summary of all of the changes throughout the Carnival Brands and their management (they were making my head swim before): http://www.travelagentcentral.com/cruises/frank-steps-down-carnival-corp-buckelew-kruse-and-swartz-promoted-43352 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FL..NC Posted November 4, 2013 #18 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Combining cruise credits world be great !:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comfortcove Posted November 4, 2013 #19 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Yes, i would love that! We have cruised for overall experience and itinerary, and therefore have credits with Princess, HAL, RCI and X, and a smattering among others. I wish some of them were combine-able! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindaM Posted November 4, 2013 #20 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Flame me away, but I think this is a rather harsh statement. Both these lines are very similar already with the exception of several much larger ships on Princess. The comments on the Princess boards about the new Royal Princess are not that great. I've sailed on both....Princess is definitely not better than HAL. They do have better perks---like internet minutes, however!! I hope that means the corkage (hopefully coming soon) will be $15, like Princess. But, I won't get my hopes up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sackman Posted November 4, 2013 #21 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Combinable cruise credits would make me really, really happy. Although if they were to do something like that, the reward levels would probably have to increase substantially. You receive elite captains circle status after 15 cruises, regardless of length. If they were to combine credits, they'd immediately double (or more) their elite members. Maybe that's a good thing, maybe not. When everybody is elite, nobody is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuthC Posted November 4, 2013 #22 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Hopefully, HAL and Princess will implement identical wine policies and wine lists aboard their ships :D Careful what you wish for, you just might get it. Princess could become "identical" to HAL, while I expect you're hoping for the other way around??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollyanne Posted November 4, 2013 #23 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Hopefully, HAL and Princess will implement identical wine policies and wine lists aboard their ships :D You must have read my mind! First thing I thought of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innlady1 Posted November 4, 2013 #24 Share Posted November 4, 2013 You must have read my mind! First thing I thought of. ...and hopefully it will lean toward Princess...not the new HAL policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxmantoo Posted November 4, 2013 #25 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Careful what you wish for, you just might get it. Princess could become "identical" to HAL, while I expect you're hoping for the other way around??? SSSHHHHHHHHHHH ... :D I remember being on Princess once and we did not get any chocolates ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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