NSWP Posted December 30, 2013 #1 Share Posted December 30, 2013 (edited) Watching Channel 7 Sunrise today, heard a new term 'Upper Middle Class Bogan !' Now I wonder which cruise line that species would cruise on? I will take a guess, Celebrity, Princess? LOL. Edited December 30, 2013 by NSWP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Roo-Zers Posted December 30, 2013 #2 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Watching Channel 7 Sunrise today, heard a new term 'Upper Middle Class Bogan !' Now I wonder which cruise line that species would cruise on? I will take a guess, Celebrity, Princess? LOL. HI Les, How funny! I've heard it all, what next - designer thongs? The mind boggles. Nicki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esilef Posted December 30, 2013 #3 Share Posted December 30, 2013 HI Les, How funny! I've heard it all, what next - designer thongs? The mind boggles. Nicki They are called Havanas........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esilef Posted December 30, 2013 #4 Share Posted December 30, 2013 My guest is that this upper middle class bogan would cruise p&o or the carnival spirit......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxmia Posted December 30, 2013 #5 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Can't work out our category? We cruise HAL, Princess, and for a quick getaway from Sydney last minute P & O. We must be in the bogan set, as we enjoy every cruise. We feel that you can enjoy every experience, so long as you are at sea. There is always something you can find fault with, however much you pay, just go with an open mind, and you will never have a bad cruise.:D Barb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSWP Posted December 30, 2013 Author #6 Share Posted December 30, 2013 (edited) My guest is that this upper middle class bogan would cruise p&o or the carnival spirit......... No way !!!, ordinary bogans go on those lines, LOL. I am talking about upper middle bogans ! They would not travel P&O Australia or on Carnival Spirit downunder, these people have graduated ! LOL. Edited December 30, 2013 by NSWP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timtam2 Posted December 30, 2013 #7 Share Posted December 30, 2013 My vote goes to Princess or RCI with an ever increasing presence on Celebrity :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Kruzer Posted December 30, 2013 #8 Share Posted December 30, 2013 No way !!!, ordinary bogans go on those lines, LOL. I am talking about upper middle bogans ! They would not travel P&O Australia or on Carnival Spirit downunder, these people have graduated ! LOL. Oh.:eek:.Do you mean they cruise Cunard?:D:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussieflyer Posted December 30, 2013 #9 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Oh.:eek:.Do you mean they cruise Cunard?:D:D LOL That said there were a few that would fit into the category on my last RCI cruise :D Would this include those groups with tiaras or caps or t-shirts proudly proclaiming someone's birthday or would that be upper class? It didn't matter, I had a good time as I always do on a a cruise (or any holiday in fact). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzaw Posted December 30, 2013 #10 Share Posted December 30, 2013 No way !!!, ordinary bogans go on those lines, LOL. I am talking about upper middle bogans ! They would not travel P&O Australia or on Carnival Spirit downunder, these people have graduated ! LOL. Les That is not strictly true. We Bogans can be very flexible -- we are able to move UP the social scale as well as moving down when the need arises. Why lock yourself into one social scale?? -- ALA Mrs Bucket. No! -- some of us are perfectly capable of moving around. Our most recent cruise was on Pacific Dawn to PNG (we loved her and it) -- the couple before that were on RCI - and the three before that were with Cunard. I am certainly a Bogan -- but I am not sure of the upper middle class bit though. Lets just say that I am a Bogan who has traveled extensively and is financially independent -- I think they used to call people like that "Esquire". Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkmw Posted December 30, 2013 #11 Share Posted December 30, 2013 LOL That said there were a few that would fit into the category on my last RCI cruise :D Would this include those groups with tiaras or caps or t-shirts proudly proclaiming someone's birthday or would that be upper class? It didn't matter, I had a good time as I always do on a a cruise (or any holiday in fact). someone posted here recently that on one of the RCI ships cruising in our waters that the bogans were onboard wearing their shorts and thongs in the MDR and nothing was said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise_me_Crazy Posted December 30, 2013 #12 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Isn't there a tv show with the same title? I thought princess, as we are upper middle class bogans (which to me is a bogan with money/ reasonable income ;)),and there were plenty of us on board! One our diners was sent away due to wearing shorts on the 2nd night. He was told by the M'D, that 1st night they accommodate guests but after that expect & enforce the dress code!:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushka Posted December 30, 2013 #13 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Maybe they do the Circumnavigation of Australia on QM2 then get the boot in Sydney? Or maybe they still cruise on P&O but only book suites? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzaw Posted December 30, 2013 #14 Share Posted December 30, 2013 (edited) Maybe they do the Circumnavigation of Australia on QM2 then get the boot in Sydney? Or maybe they still cruise on P&O but only book suites? or maybe they go on both Cunard and P&O in inside cabins?? I always thought that the 3rd Class passengers on the Titanic seemed to have a more fun time than those in 1st :) -- well, at least they did in the movie :) Barry Edited December 30, 2013 by bazzaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve1970 Posted December 31, 2013 #15 Share Posted December 31, 2013 One feels that we should not be cruising with wrong type (you know the ones, flat cloth cap - beer swilling socialists, ethnic minorities, persons of colour, the nouveau riche and God forbid - heathen's). Is there such a line for other peasants to travel on? On a more realistic note, people who stick labels on others are small minded and we should pity them as they are loosing out on the interesting interaction between 'types'. Can anyone tell me what a bogan is please? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yatchet Posted December 31, 2013 #16 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Can anyone tell me what a bogan is please? Thanks Here we go http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus Traveller Posted December 31, 2013 #17 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Watching Channel 7 Sunrise today, heard a new term 'Upper Middle Class Bogan !' Now I wonder which cruise line that species would cruise on? I will take a guess, Celebrity, Princess? LOL. They have simply 'stolen' the name of a very funny TV series that screened on Channel 2 a few months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yatchet Posted December 31, 2013 #18 Share Posted December 31, 2013 They have simply 'stolen' the name of a very funny TV series that screened on Channel 2 a few months ago. A few months??? I can remember people being referred to as Bogans over 20 yrs ago.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus Traveller Posted December 31, 2013 #19 Share Posted December 31, 2013 A few months???I can remember people being referred to as Bogans over 20 yrs ago.:) The TV show 'Upper Middle Class Bogan' was a few months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yatchet Posted December 31, 2013 #20 Share Posted December 31, 2013 The TV show 'Upper Middle Class Bogan' was a few months ago. OK, I see what you mean. Happy New Year.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzaw Posted December 31, 2013 #21 Share Posted December 31, 2013 EVERY Australian has some degree of "bogan-ness" !!! According to Wikipedia - The term bogan (/ˈboʊɡən/)[1] is Australian and New Zealand slang, usually pejorative or self-deprecating, for an individual who is recognised to be from an unsophisticated background or someone whose speech, clothing, attitude and behaviour exemplifies a lack of manners and education.[2] The words used above - unsophisticated, manners, education -- are all relative terms . They are not absolutes. Some people are more educated than others, some people exhibit a higher degree of manners and sophistication than others. For anybody who wishes to use this pejorative word- they had better consider what THEIR level of education is -- what THEIR level of sophistication is. Perhaps they themselves are less educated and less sophisticated than others -- so by definition, they themselves are Bogans (comparatively speaking) Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSWP Posted December 31, 2013 Author #22 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Les That is not strictly true. We Bogans can be very flexible -- we are able to move UP the social scale as well as moving down when the need arises. Why lock yourself into one social scale?? -- ALA Mrs Bucket. No! -- some of us are perfectly capable of moving around. Our most recent cruise was on Pacific Dawn to PNG (we loved her and it) -- the couple before that were on RCI - and the three before that were with Cunard. I am certainly a Bogan -- but I am not sure of the upper middle class bit though. Lets just say that I am a Bogan who has traveled extensively and is financially independent -- I think they used to call people like that "Esquire". Barry Good one Barry, a Tuxedo wearing self funded retiree, Cunard cruising Bogan, makes you an upper middle class bogan, at least. I would have to knock out the 'upper bit' for myself as I do not have a tuxedo anymore, remember? I donated it to a Charity Shop in Lincolnshire, England, last year, it shrank. Happy New Year to you old son. Uncle Les - Lower Middle Class Bogan. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flipper133 Posted January 1, 2014 #23 Share Posted January 1, 2014 For many years, before I retired, I went to work at No 1 BOGAN ST., Breakfast Creek in Brisbane. They have now changed the street name to Greg Chappell St. ....some say not too much has changed ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSWP Posted January 1, 2014 Author #24 Share Posted January 1, 2014 For many years, before I retired, I went to work at No 1 BOGAN ST., Breakfast Creek in Brisbane. They have now changed the street name to Greg Chappell St. ....some say not too much has changed ;) G'day Flipper, happy new year, now are there any Bogans in Qld ? LOL, must be in Bogan St. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flipper133 Posted January 1, 2014 #25 Share Posted January 1, 2014 G'day Flipper, happy new year, now are there any Bogans in Qld ? LOL, must be in Bogan St. ...and a happy new years to you Walloper Les :p Yes ...we have more than our fair share of Bogans in the Sunshine State...most imported from down south :D It seems that they are all pretty proud of the Bogan Status. The Bne City Council was forever replacing the street sign...it had become something of a cult symbol. Very little resistance for the BCC when approached to change the name. cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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