How did my minor child get drunk on Ruby?

[ar1950]

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....I would suggest that the parents leave the kid at home with grandma for the next cruise.

 

Hmm.....you might be on to something. :cool:

[wineforhealth]

Hmm.....you might be on to something. :cool:

 

Do a search on the OP other posts something's not adding up

[satxdiver]

I was on a cruise a few years ago in early December. I was in the disco area and saw these four college boys approach a very busy bar. One bought a round of drinks and handed them out to the three standing behind him. The one that bought the drink was legal but two of the boys behind him were not. As the two started to take a drink, two men in suits came up and took the drinks away from the two and also from the other two boys. I saw them escorted out of the disco and thought that I would probably not see them again the entire cruise. This was a sea day with our first port the next day. About an hour more or less they came back in the disco and I saw them around the ship the rest of the week. I would say they received the word that night!

 

Teenage boys particularly late teens will seek out alcohol. There are many ways they can get it and they help each other out. It is not so much an issue of how they got it but that they chose to do it. It is time for a heart to heart parent to son talk, one of many I suspect.

 

The ship is not responsible to watch your children every minute or to discipline them. Parents may be on vacation but that does not mean vacation from being a parent. When your kid gets into trouble, you more than the ship have the problem. It is your kid.

[Austcruiser84]

Do a search on the OP other posts something's not adding up

 

Indeed. On the other thread the OP stated she was sailing with Royal Caribbean, not Princess.

 

That certainly doesn't add up.

[ar1950]

Do a search on the OP other posts something's not adding up

 

I think that you are on to something here...

 

Explorer of the Seas Roll Calls

December 22-29, 2013 Explorer

Anyone else in on those dates?

 

How did my minor child get drunk on Ruby?

I was on the December 26-30 sailing and signed my son up for the teen club. .....

 

So maybe.......no I can't go there.....Oh why not?......who was drinking and when??? Sorry OP.....busted?

 

You be the judge.

Edited January 3, 2014 by ar1950

[Pam in CA]

Indeed. On the other thread the OP stated she was sailing with Royal Caribbean, not Princess.

The subject is the Ruby 12/26-30, which would be correct. It's possible they did a B2B on Princess and RCCL. Quite a few people do.

[ar1950]

The subject is the Ruby 12/26-30, which would be correct. It's possible they did a B2B on Princess and RCCL. Quite a few people do.

 

How do you get off of the Explorer of the Seas on the 29th of Dec. and get on the Ruby on the 26th of Dec?? The OP's postings not mine. Maybe a time warp?

 

BTW Pam, thanks for the contact.

Edited January 3, 2014 by ar1950

[!David!]

Do a search on the OP other posts something's not adding up

 

 

 

Hmm.....you might be on to something. :cool:

 

 

 

Thanks for that.

[ar1950]

Quote:

Originally Posted by wineforhealth View Post

Do a search on the OP other posts something's not adding up

 

Quote:

Originally Posted by ar1950 View Post

Hmm.....you might be on to something.

 

Thanks for that.

 

Well, even out of context that still makes sense. LOL :cool:

[land lover]

I was on the December 26-30 sailing and signed my son up for the teen club. I believed that he was safe on that ship in terms of drinking alcohol. I was wrong. I got the call from the teen club (I wasn't in my cabin - they left a message). They said my son was drunk, and they told him to leave. They wanted me to come up to talk to them.

 

Aside from the issue I have with my son for his own behavior is this:

 

How in the hell did a minor get served? He told me another teen (who I confirmed did also get kicked out) got a hold of his dad's card and ordered martinis!

 

Secondly, and this is a big one - why would they just tell a drunk teen to leave? What if he had gone overboard or who knows what?! When I arrived, no one could tell me where he was - only that he was kicked out.

 

I am very disappointed in the way this was handled.

 

It is disappointing.....but once your son choose do drink, others actions really don't matter. Your son knew what was expected of him and the rules. He choose to disobey them. Just be glad he did not hurt anyone else or himself while he was drunk, then you all might have been leaving your crusie sooner than you expected.

Edited January 3, 2014 by land lover

[hubofhockey]

OP is upset that Princess security wasn't called in to detain her obviously drunk minor son. Nobody has an issue with these sentiments.

[Wehwalt]

OP is upset that Princess security wasn't called in to detain her obviously drunk minor son. Nobody has an issue with these sentiments.

 

I do. I'm not asking Princess security to place themselves at risk to "detain" a drunk under those circumstances, when the parent is available whose job it is. If we are at that point, walking the gangway without return at the next port is called for.

[Wehwalt]

I saw this on a Mexican Riviera cruise a few years ago on the Sapphire. Four teenagers were in an inside cabin across the hall from me; I don't know where the parents were but they weren't nearby. Every night, all night, the kids would drink and party, slamming the door every few minutes as people came and went. I reported it multiple times but nothing was done. One night at about 2:30 am after hours of noise and two reports that night, I looked out my door and there was one of the boy's mother in the hallway, drunk and partying with the kids. It was really bizarre.

 

I'm not saying that the OP is irresponsible (they clearly aren't) but it's possible the other teen's parents are or even got them drinks. I wouldn't be shocked if that were the case based on so many with the attitude that they paid their money and will do what they want.

 

There's also an issue with the other teen supposedly using a parent's cruise card. OK. So what cruise card did the parent use? If he sees he has his son's cruise card, that should cause certain alarm bells to go off in the parental mind.

[Gail & Marty sailing away]

Photos taken at boarding show up on POS terminals or hand helds ..

[baggal]

I do. I'm not asking Princess security to place themselves at risk to "detain" a drunk under those circumstances, when the parent is available whose job it is. If we are at that point, walking the gangway without return at the next port is called for.

 

I don't agree that escorting two teenage boys back to their cabins is putting Princess security "at risk." It should be part of their job description. I'm sure they escort adult drunks back to their cabins all the time.

 

In any case, speaking from the experience of having teenagers, this may be the first time the OP discovered that her son has been drinking. If that's the case, she's probably somewhat in denial. Not an excuse for her outrage, just an explanation.

[Cauzneffct]

 

Secondly, and this is a big one - why would they just tell a drunk teen to leave? What if he had gone overboard or who knows what?! When I arrived, no one could tell me where he was - only that he was kicked out.

 

I am very disappointed in the way this was handled.

 

What's the protocol for drunk adult passengers, ie, are they simply asked to leave the bar, or are they escorted, or what?

[Wehwalt]

I don't agree that escorting two teenage boys back to their cabins is putting Princess security "at risk." It should be part of their job description. I'm sure they escort adult drunks back to their cabins all the time.

 

In any case, speaking from the experience of having teenagers, this may be the first time the OP discovered that her son has been drinking. If that's the case, she's probably somewhat in denial. Not an excuse for her outrage, just an explanation.

 

And if the kids walk away, which I gather is what happened? Do you chase them? Cuff them?

[JF - retired RRT]

That said, the proper approach should have been to have security escort them to a cabin or the brig and wait for parental contact. This is one area where they definitely fell down and I don't think followed protocol.

 

A march to the brig would have been good, but only if it is in an ugly location and has some bars on the door.:p

[minniem]

I.m guessing the young man did not get drunk in the teen center but drank somewhere else on the ship and then tried to enter the teen center. The staff asked him to leave. The staff is only responsible for what happens in the teen center. The parents are responsible for their child's behavior everywhere else. Why would it be the teen center staffs responsibility to walk the child to his cabin? Finding no parent there is it then their responsibility to stay with him until someone shows up?

[Gunner22aa]

Boys will be boys and at his age I would expect him to be pushing the envelope a bit. That doesn't make what happened right or absolve the ship from an obvious error. Maybe he needs to be watched a little closer.

[Loonbeam]

As far as I know, not yet. As I mentioned earlier that's planed. They Royal might have it.

Photos taken at boarding show up on POS terminals or hand helds ..

[kendon]

It is disappointing.....but once your son choose do drink, others actions really don't matter. Your son knew what was expected of him and the rules. He choose to disobey them. Just be glad he did not hurt anyone else or himself while he was drunk, then you all might have been leaving your crusie sooner than you expected.

 

Perfect...well said.

[DShock]

You should be dissapointed with yourself. When we cruised with our kids we set strict rules and times they had to be back in their rooms...and made sure they did. And we knew what they were doing, when and with who.

[cruizecrazygramma]

You should be disappointed in your teen son who with a friend stole a card and ordered Martini's, it is easier to blame the cruise line then your son of course.

 

My take from the OP's post was that she did acknowledge her sons responsibility in this but Staff dropped the ball by not making sure a "drunk" teen got back to his cabin safely and that his parents were aware of his condition. It was very irresponsible to just kick him out in that condition. At his age, he could come and go from the teen club but a responsbile staff memeber would have made sure he got to his cabin safely.

[sunsetbeachgal]

I.m guessing the young man did not get drunk in the teen center but drank somewhere else on the ship and then tried to enter the teen center. The staff asked him to leave. The staff is only responsible for what happens in the teen center. The parents are responsible for their child's behavior everywhere else. Why would it be the teen center staffs responsibility to walk the child to his cabin? Finding no parent there is it then their responsibility to stay with him until someone shows up?

 

This post very well sums up my feelings.

 

growing up is about making critical choices and accepting personal responsibility for these choices, good and bad, and learning from the bad ones. Unless someone slipped him something, which does not sound like it was the case here, Your son chose to drink, period. Going forward he will be faced with the same choices, whether it be at someone's home, fraternity house, college dorm, etc. and it will be up to him to make choices he can live with.

Edited January 3, 2014 by sunsetbeachgal