Can you still smoke in...........?

[Ocean View]

Not since Jan 1. Only indoor place to smoke is the casino.

 

 

My DH likes a cigar where can he enjoy that with maybe a nice drink?

 

 

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[leaveitallbehind]

My DH likes a cigar where can he enjoy that with maybe a nice drink?

 

 

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On Freedom and Voyager class ships on deck 5 forward inside is the Connoisseur Club, which is a cigar lounge. Otherwise on all other ships he would have to enjoy his cigar outdoors in the designated smoking area. On Oasis class ships there is an "outdoor lounge" on the Gold card reserved pool seating deck forward and above the pools, but as indicated this is still an outdoor area.

[LetsGetWet!]

My DH likes a cigar where can he enjoy that with maybe a nice drink?

Earlier in the thread:

The Connoisseur Club, which is designated as a cigar lounge, of course still allowed smoking but the one time I was in there (enjoying my one cruise cigar) no one was smoking cigarettes.

I don't believe EVERY ship has one, you might ask specifically with respect to the ship you'll be on or are considering.

 

EDIT: leaveitallbehind beat me to it by a minute! :)

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My DH likes a cigar where can he enjoy that with maybe a nice drink?

 

 

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On Allure, port side pool deck is a nicely protected smoking area with loungers, tables, and cubicles. At night the have Cigars Under the Stars which is the reserved outdoor deck area for suite guests during the day but open to anyone at night and occasionally they'll move Cigar Under the Stars into the Solarium's second floor. That is usually announced in the Compass. There's a nearby bar in all locations.

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As I said in my post, my issue is not with limiting/prohibiting smoking indoors. I don't have any issue with that. When you're on a balcony, you're not indoors anymore, you're outside...same as if you're on the port side of a ship.

 

 

I believe my state law says 50 feet from any entrance to the building. I suppose if someone wanted to smoke 50 feet from their balcony door, most people wouldn't have a problem with that except maybe the Captain. :D

[Ocean View]

Earlier in the thread:

 

I don't believe EVERY ship has one, you might ask specifically with respect to the ship you'll be on or are considering.

 

EDIT: leaveitallbehind beat me to it by a minute! :)

 

 

Will he be able to smoke a cigar in the casino?

 

 

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[leaveitallbehind]

Will he be able to smoke a cigar in the casino?

 

 

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No. Outdoor areas only or in the Connoisseur Club on those ships with one.

[Ocean View]

No. Outdoor areas only or in the Connoisseur Club on those ships with one.

 

 

Oh to bad thanks for info

 

 

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[spookwife]

True.... no doubt the botton line ($$) is a major factor. I wonder what would happen if cruisers who smoke decided to purchase their cigarettes, etc. in ports rather than on the ship? I know that's what I've done with businesses that I've had a bad experience with.... my wallet and I go elsewhere.

 

 

 

you know what happened to area restaurants and bars when the laws passed banning indoor smoking? they made MORE money. the customers who replaced the smokers had MORE disposable income to spend on beer and chicken wings. oh and they actually tasted it so they had seconds.

 

all the 'sky is falling' panic about how they were going to lose money hand over fist failed to materialize. if you leave Royal( or any line) that bans smoking there are 3 families more than willing to take your place BECAUSE of the smoking restrictions/policies.

[Ocean View]

Yep

 

 

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[Ocean Boy]

True.... no doubt the botton line ($$) is a major factor. I wonder what would happen if cruisers who smoke decided to purchase their cigarettes, etc. in ports rather than on the ship? I know that's what I've done with businesses that I've had a bad experience with.... my wallet and I go elsewhere.

 

Just posing a hypothetical. Not trying to start a boycott or anything. Of course, RCI could just turn around & stop selling them, I guess. As long as I can get my duty-free rum, I'm happy. :D

 

Then RCI would convert the space that they now use for selling cigarettes into some other revenue producing venue. It isn't complicated.

[akcruz]

Many have suggested this, but logistically it would never work.

 

1. Only 20% of the population smokes

2. The number of smokers will vary from cruise to cruise

3. There is no way one side could be entirely smoking

4. Enforcement would be nightmare

5. Revenue Management would go crazy with daily updates

 

In addition, the no smoking policy is a big plus for the staff and the company. The staff has less to clean and works in a healthier environment and the company has to spend less on cleaning supplies and staff time.

 

 

and to add to the list -

 

What do you do with itineraries where there is a preferred side on that sailing such as the Alaskan ones? How many posts have been here on CC asking which side of the ship do I need to be on to see xxx or yyyy. Who gets that side of the ship? The smokers or non smokers?

 

I know there are more, but as yogimax stated, sounds good but once you dig into it, it is a logistical nightmare.

[Emmee D]

and to add to the list -

 

What do you do with itineraries where there is a preferred side on that sailing such as the Alaskan ones? How many posts have been here on CC asking which side of the ship do I need to be on to see xxx or yyyy. Who gets that side of the ship? The smokers or non smokers?

 

I know there are more, but as yogimax stated, sounds good but once you dig into it, it is a logistical nightmare.

 

I never said that they should fix it so one side was for smokers only. My point was that having the option might be an idea (i.e.: no smoking at all on any balconies for cabins on the "X" side. If you would like the option to be able to smoke on your balcony, book your cabin on the "Y" side). That's why I said similar to the rule about smoking on the port side only on the outdoor decks. No one would be prevented from seeing anything except by their own choice.

 

But yeah...logistics probably would be a nightmare. Don't know if they could figure out a way to make it work.

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[Ocean View]

Sorry wasn't looking to stir the pot on this just wanted to know where DH could have a cigar. :) :) :)

 

 

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[DrD]

I've always wondered if it might work to separate balcony smokers from non-smokers by time rather than location. There could be certain designated hours during which smoking on balconies is allowed.

 

For most non-smokers I think the biggest issue is the unpredictability. If people know there are certain times when smokers will be out they could easily avoid those times.

 

Then it's just a question of how much time do we allocate to smokers vs non-smokers.

 

Main drawback is complexity. How would people know? Given how many people I run into who don't even know what ports we're going to this would be a major challenge.

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Sorry wasn't looking to stir the pot on this just wanted to know where DH could have a cigar. :) :) :)

 

 

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On Allure of the Seas the daily compass will have an event each night named Cigars Under The Stars. Usually happens in the solarium, or on the deck above the solarium. Unfortunately Royal built the two largest ships in the world with out a proper Cigar bar...go figure:rolleyes: after this it will probably be back to Freedom Class for me, you can find me at Deck 5 Forward ;)

[ronandcarla]

We were on the 02-22-2014 Oasis of the Seas cruise and as I stated before as to Smoking on the Balcony's, whether its your ship or any of the others docked nearby, basically for all the units that have a balcony, including us their appears to be never anybody on them. As for the Casino, yes smoking big time takes place there because thats the closest room available coming from the dining rooms. Up on the 15-16th floors their is plenty of room, whether under the roof on the 15th or up on the 16th with tables, chairs, lounges and more than enough ashtray/stands. And when we were pool side during the day, cigarettes, e-cigarettes, pipes and cigars went on from morning to night and I believe RCCL is not going to interfere because they don't want to offend anybody who is on that side of the ship that is a designated area and those paying customers are on vacation too. BTW, the pool area service was constantly cleaning the tables, ashtrays and making it as clean as possible.

 

When we were in ST Thomas/ST Maarten/ST Martin and shopping or on the beach plenty of people were smoking and life was going on and as far as I could tell everyone was having a wonderful vacation.

 

And we felt that the fumes from the stacks on all the ships that were docked in the some of the areas above were much more overwhelming than the Smoking Stories as posted hereon.

 

Sincerely, Ron and Carla M

[janice2348]

Right...the whole idea is that smokers have to go outside to smoke. (I'm in NYC...smoking indoors in public places, offices, hotels, etc. has been banned here for ages)

 

As I said in my post, my issue is not with limiting/prohibiting smoking indoors. I don't have any issue with that. When you're on a balcony, you're not indoors anymore, you're outside...same as if you're on the port side of a ship.

 

Its just an observation on my part, nothing more. Sure, non-smokers shouldn't have to deal with cigarette smoke on thier vacation if they don't wish to. But I think smokers have a right to enjoy as well without being treated like pariahs, especially since they pay the same fare that non-smokers do. That's why I think that banning smoking on balconies is a little excessive.

 

Its a shame that when RCI put this rule into play, they didn't follow the "port-side only" guideline like they have with smoking on the outdoor decks. At least then you'd know which side of the ship to consider booking a cabin on and there would probably be less friction between smokers and non. IMO, that might have been a fair compromise for all passengers. But it is what it is.

 

 

This was my thought exactly. I agree that eliminating smoking from balconies and clubs will make it worse-case in point-the casino is the new smoking club. Having a non-smoking section is utterly ridiculous in such a small space. Smokers will continue to take it over, and I doubt rccl will eliminate smoking in the casino.

 

You can't please everyone. But I think the cruise lines will find they are alienating a lot of paying customers (smokers). My DH smokes...am I happy about it, no...but I still think that smokers are being ostracized more and more and I find it very unfair.

 

My advice to those who don't like cigarette smoke-live and let live. Most smokers are very courteous, my DH included. But if you are walking through a smoking section, don't complain about the smoke. Smoke drifts and it can't be avoided.

 

Again, I think the new policy is a bad idea and I believe it will be changed.

 

That's my 2 cents. And yes, I am a non-smoker.

[xeriod]

Where is the source of your information?? :rolleyes:

 

Star Princess ,March 23, 2006

[lmares1968]

No smoking in Illinois casinos.

 

No smoking in Colorado casinos either. This includes tobacco or Marijuana😎

 

The Colorado Clean Indoor Act [CRS 25-14-201] prohibits smoking in public buildings. Smoking is only permitted outdoors.

[lmares1968]

I usually try to stay out of the smoking discussions as I'm a non-smoker that isn't nearly as combative as some are on either side of the issue.

 

So, I really don't have a dog in this hunt.

 

That said, I was just talking with someone last weekend who happens to be a political "representative" regarding the whole smokiers v non-smokers. She had an intersting observation.

 

When all the law suits hit against the tobacco companies hit, most states had a feeding frenzy and a bonanza of cash coming in (not those who were affected by smoking related illness, but their lawyers and the states). Those awards are now drying up. So, now that revenue has to be replaced.

 

Enter e-cigs and pot. This representative believes that e-cigs will replace tobacco as a taxable revenue source. She also believes that states will drop like dominoes after seeing the tax revenue the legal sale of pot brings into their coffers.

 

What does this have to do with the cruise industry? Well, they aren't selling cartons of tobacco cigs becuase they're concerned for your health. If there's money to be made (namely with e-cigs replacing tobacco) the cruise lines will allow it.

 

Colorado made 2+ million in January on recreational pot tax sales. I agree with your conclusion in regard to e~cigs.

 

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[LetsGetWet!]

Our own 2 cents is all we can really provide! Here's mine:

This was my thought exactly. I agree that eliminating smoking from balconies and clubs will make it worse-case in point-the casino is the new smoking club. Having a non-smoking section is utterly ridiculous in such a small space. Smokers will continue to take it over, and I doubt rccl will eliminate smoking in the casino.

 

You're right, the casino has become the new smoking club. I don't blame the smokers for that, its RCI's rule that resulted in it. But I think RCI WILL eliminate smoking in the casino - once the lost gambling revenue $$$ starts to add up. Lots of smokers in the casino smoking and not gambling, lots of non-smokers who would gamble avoiding the casino now. The net bottom line is always revenue, and this isn't going to work out well for RCI - it WILL be changed, IMO.

You can't please everyone. But I think the cruise lines will find they are alienating a lot of paying customers (smokers). My DH smokes...am I happy about it, no...but I still think that smokers are being ostracized more and more and I find it very unfair.

 

They may be alienating smokers, but they're making non-smokers happier - and that's a much larger share of paying customers, plain and simple.

 

My advice to those who don't like cigarette smoke-live and let live. Most smokers are very courteous, my DH included. But if you are walking through a smoking section, don't complain about the smoke. Smoke drifts and it can't be avoided.

 

Agree completely - if you walk through a designated smoking section, don't complain about the smoke!

 

Again, I think the new policy is a bad idea and I believe it will be changed.

 

The only changes we'll see to the new policy will be to restrict smoking even further, not to roll it back. That's the trend EVERYWHERE, not just on cruise ships. Smokers constitute less than 20% of the adult population in the US, and that number dwindles every year. They constitute an even smaller percentage of cruise passengers, due to the children who are 100% non-smokers.

 

That's my 2 cents. And yes, I am a non-smoker.

[spookwife]

Then RCI would convert the space that they now use for selling cigarettes into some other revenue producing venue. It isn't complicated.

 

 

More rum cakes?! :D

[jstraw20]

Ridiculous.

 

Not in the slightest. During our last cruise for the first two days the winds were blowing in such a way that the smoke from the stacks was being blown over the port side then spiraling along the side and aft end of the ship. I'll take second hand cigarette smoke over bunker exhaust any day.

[Eng23]

Our own 2 cents is all we can really provide! Here's mine:

I'll value your 2 cents at a much higher value than 2 cents. :)