E cigs

[parisbully]

Sorry, search not working. What are the e cig rules? Same as regular cigs? Smoking in rooms, balconys, dining venues?

[samiam0403]

Sorry, search not working. What are the e cig rules? Same as regular cigs? Smoking in rooms, balconys, dining venues?

 

Currently they are exactly the same as regular cigs. :( Was just off the Miracle a few weeks ago and I believe it specifically stated so in the Fun Times. I wish they'd lighten up a little on the rules, but I'll continue to abide by whatever they are.

[fishtaco]

you can use e cigs in the cabin because nobody will ever know if you did or didnt use them!

[Mysticks1]

The below is from the FAQ section from Carnival's website. They added the little blurb at the bottom about the E-Cigarettes.

 

What is the smoking policy?

 

Effective June 15, 2011, cigarette smoking in public venues will only be permitted in Carnival’s dance clubs as well as in designated areas within the casino and casino bar.

 

Smoking (including cigars) will be permitted in designated exterior open deck areas (starboard side) of all our ships. Additionally, smoking will also be allowed in the jazz clubs of the following ships: Carnival Destiny, Carnival Triumph, Carnival Victory, Carnival Conquest, Carnival Glory, Carnival Valor, Carnival Liberty, Carnival Freedom, and Carnival Splendor.

 

* All Spa Suites and Staterooms, inclusive of the balconies, are an entirely smoke-free environment. Spa suites and staterooms are on the following ships only: Carnival Splendor, Carnival Dream, Carnival Breeze and Carnival Sunshine.

 

* Effective December 1, 2011, smoking will be prohibited in all guest staterooms. Guests in balcony staterooms may smoke (including cigars) outside on their balcony.

 

Guests who smoke in their staterooms will be assessed a $250 USD cleaning and refreshing fee on their Sail & Sign account. Information on this fee is included in Carnival’s ticket contract.

 

Note: Electronic cigarettes or e-cigarettes are only allowed in the designated smoking areas.

[riffatsea]

There may not be smoke from an e-cig but doesn't the vapor that comes out have an odor???

E-cigs at the moment are treated like normal cigs in terms of where you can/cannot smoke them.

[mister windu]

There may not be smoke from an e-cig but doesn't the vapor that comes out have an odor???

E-cigs at the moment are treated like normal cigs in terms of where you can/cannot smoke them.

 

DH has used e-cigs for 3 years and I've never been able to smell anything in the water vapor.

[Tapi]

There may not be smoke from an e-cig but doesn't the vapor that comes out have an odor???

E-cigs at the moment are treated like normal cigs in terms of where you can/cannot smoke them.

 

 

Nope. You can close your eyes and have someone vaping right next to you and you will never know.

 

I think that over time, these bans will be loosened as erroneous or incomplete information is clarified. The most recent research indicates that, while there are chemicals produced in e-cigs, they are in such minuscule concentrations that they are negligible. Some of these chemicals are in lower concentrations than in the air that we naturally breathe. Harmful ingredients like propylene glycol that were in early E-cigs are no longer added so that's not even an issue anymore.

 

Other cruise lines have already eased up on E-cigs, like Princess, which allows their use in ALL public areas and staterooms, except MDR and theater.

 

 

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Edited April 25, 2014 by Tapi

[rhfish3]

Nope. You can close your eyes and have someone vaping right next to you and you will never know.

 

I think that over time, these bans will be loosened as erroneous or incomplete information is clarified. The most recent research indicates that, while there are chemicals produced in e-cigs, they are in such minuscule concentrations that they are negligible. Some of these chemicals are in lower concentrations than in the air that we naturally breathe. Harmful ingredients like propylene glycol that were in early E-cigs are no longer added so that's not even an issue anymore.

 

Other cruise lines have already eased up on E-cigs, like Princess, which allows their use in ALL public areas and staterooms, except MDR and theater.

 

 

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The same thing was said about xrays in pregnant women and thalidomide. Studies will show the harmful effects of ecigs

 

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[hftmrock]

you can use e cigs in the cabin because nobody will ever know if you did or didnt use them!

 

 

are you going to pay the fine if the OP is caught? I think the prudent thing is to tell the OP that the rules are the same as smoking. If the OP chooses to break the rules, thats on them. I would never say 'You can' to anyone where it clearly breaks the rules.

 

is it likely that the OP will be caught... obviously not. But I wouldnt just say 'You Can'

[Fitzget]

Depends on what's in the eCigs. Those that have the sweet flavors, I can smell them. And then there are those that use weed in them, thinking no on can smell it, and I can smell that too.

[BlasianGrl]

Sorry, search not working. What are the e cig rules? Same as regular cigs? Smoking in rooms, balconys, dining venues?

 

I would suggest you're discreet about it. We used ecigs in cabin with no issue. I use Mint and DH uses Chocolate. No complaints from anyone.

 

DH would vape in the bathroom after dinner. No complaints from anyone. Just be discreet. People can't smell it - they only freak if they see the "smoke". Just exhale thinly and DOWN.

 

Vaped on the Serenity Deck as well WITH other passengers. Just be discreet about it. Again, exhale thinly and DOWN. You're not killing anyone and it disappears as soon as you exhale.

 

No...do NOT vape in the dining room. No...do NOT vape in the theatre. Just use your common sense about it. LOL

[3ricT]

Propylene glycol is considered generally recognized as safe (GRAS) by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, and it is used as an humectant (E1520), solvent, and preservative in food and for tobacco products, as well as being one of the major ingredients of the "e-liquid" used in electronic cigarettes along with vegetable glycerin. Vaporizers used for delivery of pharmaceuticals or personal care products often include propylene glycol among the ingredients they are filled with.

 

 

I am so tired of people misrepresenting ecigs when they dont know a darn thing about em! No problem vaping in your cabin. The reason they dont allow smoking in a cabin is the cleaning and odor. No such problems with ecigs. I dont give a rats a$$ if that's the policy. It's stupid. period the end[/url]

 

Thalamide? really?

Edited April 25, 2014 by 3ricT
clarity

[tigereye]

New regs coming soon for e-cigs. They have been found to be as dangerous as regular cigs in testing. I don't think the rules will lighten up any for these. Probably stay the same as other tobacco fires.

[jimbo5544]

Propylene glycol is considered generally recognized as safe (GRAS) by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, and it is used as an humectant (E1520), solvent, and preservative in food and for tobacco products, as well as being one of the major ingredients of the "e-liquid" used in electronic cigarettes along with vegetable glycerin. Vaporizers used for delivery of pharmaceuticals or personal care products often include propylene glycol among the ingredients they are filled with.

 

 

I am so tired of people misrepresenting ecigs when they dont know a darn thing about em! No problem vaping in your cabin. The reason they dont allow smoking in a cabin is the cleaning and odor. No such problems with ecigs. I dont give a rats a$$ if that's the policy. It's stupid. period the end

 

Thalamide? really?

wow:confused::eek:

[dd2355]

wow:confused::eek:

 

Someone's jonesin' for his nicotine fix... :D

[Havingfun2010]

I remember when people would argue that second hand smoke was safe and no danger in it. Now people want to argue e-cigs are safe. But yet, states, counties, and cities across this country are enacting or in the process of enacting laws to change the language to include e-cigs with the same restrictions as all tobacco products.

 

This is not candy, it is chemicals and the "majority" of people recognize that this is eventually going to be regulated and restricted and most also recognize, that putting chemicals and vapor into your lungs will not be safe.

 

It's a tough argument to prove it is safe. You could argue this all night, but the end result will be it's not safe and it will be regulated.

[dd2355]

Propylene glycol is considered generally recognized as safe (GRAS) by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration

 

Here's the Material Safety Data Sheet:

https://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9927239

 

Potential Acute Health Effects:

Hazardous in case of ingestion. Slightly hazardous in case of skin contact (irritant, permeator), of eye contact (irritant), of

inhalation.

Potential Chronic Health Effects:

Slightly hazardous in case of skin contact (sensitizer). CARCINOGENIC EFFECTS: Not available. MUTAGENIC EFFECTS:

Not available. TERATOGENIC EFFECTS: Not available. DEVELOPMENTAL TOXICITY: Not available. The substance may be

toxic to central nervous system (CNS). Repeated or prolonged exposure to the substance can produce target organs damage.

 

Sorry, I don't want to inhale the stuff.

[sjn911]

What is in them..liquid tobacco and nicotine?? And more limited smell??..what does come out second hand??

 

Other than this glycol...

 

Never mind..found good article on controversy...they "experts" seem to not know totally what is in them or affects...

 

http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/whats-so-bad-about-e-cigarettes-n89366

Edited April 25, 2014 by sjn911
added a phrase

[Fitzget]

New regs coming soon for e-cigs. They have been found to be as dangerous as regular cigs in testing. I don't think the rules will lighten up any for these. Probably stay the same as other tobacco fires.

 

 

Wow! That is completely untrue! I don't smoke either cigs or ecigs and I can tell you there is no study that says they are just as dangerous as cigarettes.

[tigereye]

I guess the kids who have died as a result of second hand e-cig "vapor" is not enough. I read every few days where testing is proving that e-cigs present the same dangers as tobacco smoke. Putting nicotine into the air is not good no matter the method. Sorry to disagree, but please don't smoke in my cabin!

[EZ4]

I guess the kids who have died as a result of second hand e-cig "vapor" is not enough. I read every few days where testing is proving that e-cigs present the same dangers as tobacco smoke. Putting nicotine into the air is not good no matter the method. Sorry to disagree, but please don't smoke in my cabin!

 

Links to your "studies"? No one knows the long term effects right now. That is why municipalities are lumping them in with cigarette bans. They just don't know. No one does. Not them. Not you. You may not like them, but you don't help your case by parroting hysterical talking points. All of these pending regulations are nothing but a smoke screen to cover an impending money grab, where onerous taxes will be placed on them. You know the govt can't stand to see money left on the table. It has nothing to do with health and safety. It's all about the money.

[idiebabe]

I guess the kids who have died as a result of second hand e-cig "vapor" is not enough. I read every few days where testing is proving that e-cigs present the same dangers as tobacco smoke. Putting nicotine into the air is not good no matter the method. Sorry to disagree, but please don't smoke in my cabin!

 

You wouldn't even know whether someone vaped in YOUR cabin! Kids have died as a result of e-cig second hand "vapor"??? Seriously! WOW! So ridiculous! LMAO

[Fitzget]

I guess the kids who have died as a result of second hand e-cig "vapor" is not enough. I read every few days where testing is proving that e-cigs present the same dangers as tobacco smoke. Putting nicotine into the air is not good no matter the method. Sorry to disagree, but please don't smoke in my cabin!

 

I have never heard of anyone dying from ecig vapor, and especially not second hand vapor. Where's your proof?

 

If anyone has died from eCig vapor, it's because they put drugs in it. Please stop spreading rumors of which you know nothing about.

[Out to sea!]

you can use e cigs in the cabin because nobody will ever know if you did or didnt use them!

 

There are certainly many things you can get away with if you want, but smoking an e-cig in your cabin is a violation of the rules, whether anyone can tell or not.

[bdever]

I guess the kids who have died as a result of second hand e-cig "vapor" is not enough. I read every few days where testing is proving that e-cigs present the same dangers as tobacco smoke. Putting nicotine into the air is not good no matter the method. Sorry to disagree, but please don't smoke in my cabin!

 

 

You crack me up:D Trust me, every cabin, bathroom stall, airplane, bar, restaurant, theater you have been in, someone's vaped in it. It was probably me ;)

 

There are more kids who have died from walking down the street and being hit by lightning not to mention drinking, drugs, reckless driving, etc than die from second hand e-vapor. A little dramatic don't you think?