Muster drill question... Please dont flame me!

[donaldsc]

Before anyone slams me, I am just curious, not intending to do this.

 

Is there a way to avoid muster??

 

I have cruised a few times in my life :rolleyes: (wish more!!) and have always attended the muster drill as I know it is mandatory. Buuuuttttttttttt......

 

Does anyone actually check cabins to see if you are at muster? Can you actually find a way around it? I know that on my trips, they did not have a check list or anything to see if you were there. One time I even went to muster at another location.

 

Again, I know its mandatory and was wondering...

 

If you aren't thinking about trying to avoid muster drill, why did you bother to ask?

 

DON

[cruisead]

Is there anyone that has been on a Carnival ship and has been checked?

 

I see everyone who has posted has sailed with other cruise lines.....

 

Yep. DH and I were on Conquest and they called out cabin numbers.

[Lerin]

How about you skip muster on your next Carnival cruise, and then post what happens for the rest of us. :D

[navybankerteacher]

Is there anyone that has been on a Carnival ship and has been checked?

 

I see everyone who has posted has sailed with other cruise lines.....

 

On my one Carnival cruise they DID take attendance at the muster station. Certainly since the Costa Concordia, lines have started paying more attention. To SOLAS requirements.

 

But all this is immaterial - I am curious about why you feel that you should be exempt from an activity which ALL passengers are expected (no, REQUIRED) to attend.

 

It is prima donnas who feel above the requirements imposed upon the "little people" who make the exercises take up so much more of the "little peoples'" time.

[BeagleOne]

If you aren't thinking about trying to avoid muster drill, why did you bother to ask?

 

DON

 

Perhaps she is just curious.

 

Several months ago someone posted about a couple who were on back-to-back cruises and refused to attend the second muster drill even after being found and asked politely to attend. IIRC, at least one very senior officer, perhaps even the captain, told them to do so. They refused and were escorted off the ship.

[BeagleOne]

Here is the article. Guess it was more than a few months ago!

 

http://www.cruisecritic.com/news/news.cfm?ID=4837

[rkmw]

we have done b2b cruisers on p&o australia and we got a letter from the pursers desk to say we didnt have to attend the 2nd muster if we didnt want to go

[sail7seas]

We have done a great many b-to-b's on HAL and prior to Costa Concordia, we did not have to attend the drill for our second cruise segment and received a letter excusing us. After that terrible incident, we were instructed we had to attend every life boat drill for which we were aboard.

 

This is for cruises sailing into and out of U.S. ports as well as Canada. We did not sail Australia.

 

 

Edited May 15, 2014 by sail7seas

[navybankerteacher]

Is there anyone that has been on a Carnival ship and has been checked?

 

I see everyone who has posted has sailed with other cruise lines.....

 

On my one Carnival cruise they DID take attendance at the muster station. Certainly since the Costa Concordia, lines have started paying more attention. To SOLAS requirements.

 

But all this is immaterial - I am curious about why you feel that you should be exempt from an activity which ALL passengers are expected (no, REQUIRED) to attend.

 

It is prima donnas who feel above the requirements imposed upon the "little people" who make the exercises take up so much more of the "little peoples'" time.

[rene194215]

On my one Carnival cruise they DID take attendance at the muster station. Certainly since the Costa Concordia, lines have started paying more attention. To SOLAS requirements.

 

But all this is immaterial - I am curious about why you feel that you should be exempt from an activity which ALL passengers are expected (no, REQUIRED) to attend.

 

It is prima donnas who feel above the requirements imposed upon the "little people" who make the exercises take up so much more of the "little peoples'" time.

 

As I said I was curious... I ALWAYS go to muster. I certainly hope you are not calling me a prima donna. I asked something I did not know. I had never heard of them taking attendance but I ALWAYS go...

 

Perhaps she is just curious.

 

Several months ago someone posted about a couple who were on back-to-back cruises and refused to attend the second muster drill even after being found and asked politely to attend. IIRC, at least one very senior officer, perhaps even the captain, told them to do so. They refused and were escorted off the ship.

 

I am curious since I have read about scanning cards. I had no idea. Again, I stress to those who are pretty much flaming me that I ALWAYS go to muster.

[rene194215]

If you aren't thinking about trying to avoid muster drill, why did you bother to ask?

 

DON

 

I bother to ask because I read that people are scanned that they are there and I had never heard that before. Why would I try to ever skip something that would save my life?

And again, I stress I ALWAYS go to muster. And I listen unlike other people whispering and laughing and complaining.

 

How about you skip muster on your next Carnival cruise, and then post what happens for the rest of us. :D

 

I would never skip muster. Why would I want to do that and risk my life. Whatever the cruise, my life is a bit more important. People have mentioned to that with a B2B they sometimes do not have to do the second one, but guess what... I WILL be there.

[rkmw]

I bother to ask because I read that people are scanned that they are there and I had never heard that before. Why would I try to ever skip something that would save my life?

And again, I stress I ALWAYS go to muster. And I listen unlike other people whispering and laughing and complaining.

 

 

 

I would never skip muster. Why would I want to do that and risk my life. Whatever the cruise, my life is a bit more important. People have mentioned to that with a B2B they sometimes do not have to do the second one, but guess what... I WILL be there.

 

if you do a b2b and you get a letter to say you dont have to attend the 2nd muster you dont need to attend

Edited May 15, 2014 by rkmw

[jamessemaj]

The muster drill is important, but some think not. On my first cruise, they had everybody stand in lines like an army platoon waiting for latecomers. It was over only after the drunks showed up. Since then, I just lurk around until I know all the drunks and latecomers have sashed in. Only then do I join whatever it is. Varies by cruise line as to how they do it.

[BeagleOne]

As I said I was curious... I ALWAYS go to muster. I certainly hope you are not calling me a prima donna. I asked something I did not know. I had never heard of them taking attendance but I ALWAYS go...

 

 

 

I am curious since I have read about scanning cards. I had no idea. Again, I stress to those who are pretty much flaming me that I ALWAYS go to muster.

 

You've received several uncalled-for remarks on this thread. I'm not sure why people assume the worst about other people's motives based on a post that merely asked a question (especially when you said you were not intending to skip the muster drill), but that is not uncommon on CC, I'm afraid.

Edited May 15, 2014 by BeagleOne

[Mytime2014]

You've received several uncalled-for remarks on this thread. I'm not sure why people assume the worst about other people's motives based on a post that merely asked a question (especially when you said you were not intending to skip the muster drill), but that is not uncommon on CC, I'm afraid.

 

what is it about these boards that bring out the snark in people?? including me - need to stop and think more.

 

BTW, love your beagles. My Katie Scarlett [elderly beaglet] is right here beside me keeping us company as I plan my trip.

Edited May 15, 2014 by Mytime2014

[dsrdsrdsr]

I don't think lifeboat drill is likely to save my life, partly because the chances of the ship sinking are miniscule, and partly because if it sinks like a stone we all drown anyway; if it doesn't, there's time to adapt. Yes, I'm fractionally increasing my risk; but only in the same way as I fractionally increase my risk by parking on the wrong side of the road so having to cross over to reach my front door.

 

P&O are a bit more relaxed than some of the obsessive lines mentioned. For example, on a long cruise (eg. 12 weeks) you only have to attend lifeboat drill once. After all, there's no logic to saying that you must attend before leaving Barbados, Los Angeles, and Whittier, but not the other ports. and there's also no logic to saying 2 new people have joined, or 50, or 500, so the rest of the 1,700 have to do it all again.

 

Voyages of Discovery sailed before I'd been on a lifeboat drill - but then, we were on a ship's excursion before we even boarded the ship, and so we boarded at 9 pm for a 9.30 sailing and the drill had already been done. So they did a special one for latecomers next day. We survived.

 

Ultimately, there's only two things you really need to know: where to go, and how to put on your lifejacket. And for putting on a lifejacket, one practice isn't enough to fix it in your mind anyway. And if I'm in the water, I'm probably dead whether I've got a lifejacket or not.

[sail7seas]

I don't think lifeboat drill is likely to save my life, partly because the chances of the ship sinking are miniscule, and partly because if it sinks like a stone we all drown anyway; if it doesn't, there's time to adapt. Yes, I'm fractionally increasing my risk; but only in the same way as I fractionally increase my risk by parking on the wrong side of the road so having to cross over to reach my front door.

But, with all respect, lifeboat drill is not only about just you or me or just about only a few of us. It is about thousands of us whose life might be lost because some have no clue where they should have reported or don't follow directions they are given by those (hopefully) well trained for emergencies.

 

 

P&O are a bit more relaxed than some of the obsessive lines mentioned. For example, on a long cruise (eg. 12 weeks) you only have to attend lifeboat drill once. After all, there's no logic to saying that you must attend before leaving Barbados, Los Angeles, and Whittier, but not the other ports. and there's also no logic to saying 2 new people have joined, or 50, or 500, so the rest of the 1,700 have to do it all again.

 

Voyages of Discovery sailed before I'd been on a lifeboat drill - but then, we were on a ship's excursion before we even boarded the ship, and so we boarded at 9 pm for a 9.30 sailing and the drill had already been done. So they did a special one for latecomers next day. We survived.

 

Ultimately, there's only two things you really need to know: where to go, and how to put on your lifejacket. And for putting on a lifejacket, one practice isn't enough to fix it in your mind anyway. And if I'm in the water, I'm probably dead whether I've got a lifejacket or not.

[sail7seas]

if you do a b2b and you get a letter to say you dont have to attend the 2nd muster you dont need to attend

 

 

 

We did a great many b-to-b's on HAL through the years. In the last few years prior to Costa Concordia, we were excused from lifeboat drill for second segment of our cruise.

 

After Costa Concordia, HAL requires everyone attend the drill no matter they are on b-to-b. We had to repeat the drill for the second segment despite we have cruised with HAL over 80+ cruises. :)

 

[LA_CA_GAL]

I don't think lifeboat drill is likely to save my life, partly because the chances of the ship sinking are miniscule, and partly because if it sinks like a stone we all drown anyway;

 

You might drown, but I will not.

 

Further, not all evacuations result in the ship "sinking like a stone".

 

Example, fire. The ship might not sink at all.

 

If you are on a ship with 3,000 to 6,000 people and an emergency happens and no one has a clue of where to go and what to do, think of the mass mayhem.

 

Personally, it does not matter where I am, a hotel, a movie theater, mall, ship, airplane, as soon as I enter, the first thing I do is find the ways out.

[lady_cruiser]

Before anyone slams me, I am just curious, not intending to do this.

 

Is there a way to avoid muster??

 

I have cruised a few times in my life :rolleyes: (wish more!!) and have always attended the muster drill as I know it is mandatory. Buuuuttttttttttt......

 

Does anyone actually check cabins to see if you are at muster? Can you actually find a way around it? I know that on my trips, they did not have a check list or anything to see if you were there. One time I even went to muster at another location.

 

Again, I know its mandatory and was wondering...

 

Royal Caribbean does take a roll call in the sense of the word that they ask to see everyone's seaspass cards and check their names off a roster.

[dorisis]

We recently did a Princess B2B and were told we could miss the 2nd muster. That has always been true for our Princess B2Bs. Not so with other cruise lines. I do appreciate lines that do the muster indoors.

[navybankerteacher]

I don't think lifeboat drill is likely to save my life, partly because the chances of the ship sinking are miniscule, and partly because if it sinks like a stone we all drown anyway; if it doesn't, there's time to adapt.

 

Ships do not "sink like a stone" - with the possible exceptions of HMS Hood and USS Arizona - which were special circumstances. Then, if there is time, how well are people going to "adapt" under stressful circumstances, with NO idea of that to which are are supposed to adapt?

[YubaSutter]

We used to skip the lifeboat muster years ago. Now, we arrive late and suffer through it.

[whogo]

If the maritime industry really wants to save lives they will find a way to keep the captain onboard until everyone else is off.

[ducklite]

You might drown, but I will not.

 

 

 

Further, not all evacuations result in the ship "sinking like a stone".

 

 

 

Example, fire. The ship might not sink at all.

 

 

 

If you are on a ship with 3,000 to 6,000 people and an emergency happens and no one has a clue of where to go and what to do, think of the mass mayhem.

 

 

 

Personally, it does not matter where I am, a hotel, a movie theater, mall, ship, airplane, as soon as I enter, the first thing I do is find the ways out.

 

 

Face it, if there is a serious fire on a ship with that many people, there is going to be mass mayhem regardless. Anyone who thinks otherwise is playing a fools game.