Rare eroller Posted May 20, 2014 #1 Share Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) It was announced today that both RYNDAM & STATENDAM will be transferred to P&O Australia in 2015. The full article can be found here: http://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/11114.html Edited May 20, 2014 by eroller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammygoose Posted May 20, 2014 #2 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Good get! This is interesting news indeed...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theloo Posted May 20, 2014 #3 Share Posted May 20, 2014 I wonder when in 2015. The Statendam is scheduled for 14-day trips to Alaska in summer 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipcafe Posted May 20, 2014 #4 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Both ships hold a very special place in my heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtl513 Posted May 20, 2014 #5 Share Posted May 20, 2014 I wonder when in 2015. The Statendam is scheduled for 14-day trips to Alaska in summer 2015.The article said November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sppunk Posted May 20, 2014 #6 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Well there's the option for the 2nd Pinnacle Class ship ... It was just a matter of time/which ships. I'm sure they want to ditch all the S class ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theloo Posted May 20, 2014 #7 Share Posted May 20, 2014 The article said November. Whoops! Guess I didn't read to the very end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuthC Posted May 20, 2014 #8 Share Posted May 20, 2014 I'm disappointed that this day has come, to say the least. I have a special fondness for the S-class ships, and the Ryndam in particular. Thanks for the link, eroller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvcmember Posted May 20, 2014 #9 Share Posted May 20, 2014 I'm so glad I'm booked on the Maasdam for December. Will look into the Ryndam for early 2015 to bid a farewell. The Ryndam was our first HAL ship. Made many wonderful friendships with some of the crew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare erewhon Posted May 20, 2014 #10 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Thanks for the link. Maybe we will cruise on them when they relocate, and renamed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare TiogaCruiser Posted May 20, 2014 #11 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Well, how sad. I wonder how long the refurbishments will take and if "join the fleet in November 2015" means taking passengers or entering dry dock for the work to be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted May 20, 2014 #12 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Thank you for the news. I figured that something was in the works as the Caribbean schedules for fall 2015 have not been released. I will hate to see the Ryndam go as well as we have quite a few days on her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare POA1 Posted May 20, 2014 #13 Share Posted May 20, 2014 I'm a little sail about the Ryndam. We sailed her twice. We took our parents on her in the late 90s, and we sailed with friends for DW's birthday a few years ago when the Mexican Riveria cruisers were still going strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royalty X Posted May 20, 2014 #14 Share Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) Well, how sad. I wonder how long the refurbishments will take and if "join the fleet in November 2015" means taking passengers or entering dry dock for the work to be done. Usually that means they'll be refurbed and ready to go in November 2015. If the last few P&O ships are any indication, they'll more than likely go to Sembawang Shipyard in Singapore for the refurb before positioning down here to Oz. I'm excited! Edited May 20, 2014 by Royalty X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare rafinmd Posted May 20, 2014 #15 Share Posted May 20, 2014 I'm glad I booked them for the next 8 months. Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMS Olympic Posted May 20, 2014 #16 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Will either Veendam or Masdam be ported in Tampa during the 2015 winter season? Will these remaining S class ships be sent to Costa to continue Neo collection? Will the new pinnacle class ship be named Statendam or Nieu Statendam? As for Statendam and Ryndam......I enjoyed Ryndam; sailed Veendam before her bastardization in the stern and loved the Masdam. never made the Statendam which I regret. Good luck to these two ships down under, hope the refit is stunning so I can choose Statendam down under. Now ernie....get the scoop on the new ship . Will she follow the trend of Haven/ Yachtclub ship with in a ship design????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPoll189 Posted May 20, 2014 #17 Share Posted May 20, 2014 RMS Olympic. If the ship takes the name of Statendam it will only be called Statendam. Also the Pinnacle Class is a larger and wider derivative of the present Signature/Vista class vessels with some new differences on them. You will provable find the same things with the new ship as you see on Eurodam and Niuew Amsterdam. Maybe a few more specialty restaurants will be found on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare eroller Posted May 20, 2014 Author #18 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Now ernie....get the scoop on the new ship . Will she follow the trend of Haven/ Yachtclub ship with in a ship design????? Don't expect anything ground breaking with the new ship. She is essentially just an enlarged Vista Class. Not sure this is a good thing. More decks of cabins but the same exterior top deck space which essentially remains static. Thankfully the Vista Class is fairly spacious so hopefully the extra pax won't make the new ship too dense. One change I do expect is decor. Expect lighter and more sophisticated decor than current HAL ships. I would say more along the lines of Celebrity but not quite that extreme. Ernie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare eroller Posted May 20, 2014 Author #19 Share Posted May 20, 2014 The transfer of the two S-Class ships is interesting for a couple reasons. It's no secret that Carnival Corp. was actively looking to sell one or more of these ships. I'm speculating that wasn't possible so instead they decided to place them where the best revenue potential exists. Apparently that is no longer Holland America. Also interesting that HAL's capacity will remain flat for the foreseeable future and perhaps even decline if any more ships are transferred out. There is only one new HAL ship order and that will not increase capacity, only keep it flat when the two existing ships are transferred out. Replacing two ships with one may keep capacity flat, but it does place limitations on itinerary expansion. One less ship to explore new itinerary options. There are no indications of any additional new builds for HAL at this time, but of course that can change. Carnival Corp. rarely builds one of anything. I'm just uncertain what all this spells for the HAL brand. Perhaps nothing? Not being in growth mode is never a good thing for any company, and shrinking is even worse. I just wonder how well HAL is doing these days. Apparently not well enough to warrant growth at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPoll189 Posted May 20, 2014 #20 Share Posted May 20, 2014 The transfer of the two S-Class ships is interesting for a couple reasons. It's no secret that Carnival Corp. was actively looking to sell one or more of these ships. I'm speculating that wasn't possible so instead they decided to place them where the best revenue potential exists. Apparently that is no longer Holland America. Also interesting that HAL's capacity will remain flat for the foreseeable future and perhaps even decline if any more ships are transferred out. There is only one new HAL ship order and that will not increase capacity, only keep it flat when the two existing ships are transferred out. Replacing two ships with one may keep capacity flat, but it does place limitations on itinerary expansion. One less ship to explore new itinerary options. There are no indications of any additional new builds for HAL at this time, but of course that can change. Carnival Corp. rarely builds one of anything. I'm just uncertain what all this spells for the HAL brand. Perhaps nothing? Not being in growth mode is never a good thing for any company, and shrinking is even worse. I just wonder how well HAL is doing these days. Apparently not well enough to warrant growth at the moment. There is actually an option for a second Pinnacle class ship for delivery somewhere in 2018-2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kakalina Posted May 20, 2014 #21 Share Posted May 20, 2014 We knew she was for sale but I am very sad that the Statendam will be leaving. She was our first ship and holds so many fond memories. At least we will have 31 days on her this fall. They Ryndam will also be missed. In fact, we love the S & R class ships and do not like the Vista ( or larger ) class at all. I am just hoping that the small ships that are left will last as long as the cruising days we have left to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-legs Posted May 20, 2014 #22 Share Posted May 20, 2014 The transfer of the two S-Class ships is interesting for a couple reasons. It's no secret that Carnival Corp. was actively looking to sell one or more of these ships. I'm speculating that wasn't possible so instead they decided to place them where the best revenue potential exists. Apparently that is no longer Holland America. Also interesting that HAL's capacity will remain flat for the foreseeable future and perhaps even decline if any more ships are transferred out. There is only one new HAL ship order and that will not increase capacity, only keep it flat when the two existing ships are transferred out. Replacing two ships with one may keep capacity flat, but it does place limitations on itinerary expansion. One less ship to explore new itinerary options. There are no indications of any additional new builds for HAL at this time, but of course that can change. Carnival Corp. rarely builds one of anything. I'm just uncertain what all this spells for the HAL brand. Perhaps nothing? Not being in growth mode is never a good thing for any company, and shrinking is even worse. I just wonder how well HAL is doing these days. Apparently not well enough to warrant growth at the moment. BINGO ! My own opinion as well...and I couldn't have framed it better ! Very good analysis;thank you. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruz chic Posted May 20, 2014 #23 Share Posted May 20, 2014 While I'll miss the Ryndam, I couldn't be happier about the Statendam leaving. I'm a fan of the newer ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowPrincess Posted May 20, 2014 #24 Share Posted May 20, 2014 DH and I are both saddened that Ryndam is leaving the fleet :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelman Posted May 20, 2014 #25 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Quick photoshop I created of the ships in the new livery.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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