Celebrity dress code

[Cruise Junky]

Hmm... It had at least as much to do with it as your post that she was responding to. :rolleyes:

 

Did you bother to read the post that I was responding to? :rolleyes:

[teecee60]

And yet you won't find too many young people on Oceania. They're usually full of very well travelled and well heeled passengers. High end lines are either dropping formal nights or have never had them. I guess the well travelled and well heeled don't need to play dress up on vacation

 

Excellent point and VERY well stated. ;)

[Ma Bell]

The people on Oceania chose their cruise knowing what they were purchasing. They made the choice to sail on a cruise line that has a resort casual dress code.

 

The people sailing on Celebrity chose to sail on a cruise line that has Formal Nights in the main dining room. Most of the well traveled people I know don't feel that they are "playing dress up" and are comfortable in their formal clothing, don't consider it unusual and actually enjoy those evenings.. They also have times when they may not feel like dressing up and are grateful for the many options available for those times. They are real grown ups and go to another venue for the evening .

 

Is it possible to have choices in this world?

Edited July 18, 2014 by Ma Bell

[Cruise Junky]

The people on Oceania chose their cruise knowing what they were purchasing. They made the choice to sail on a cruise line that has a resort casual dress code.

 

The people sailing on Celebrity chose to sail on a cruise line that has Formal Nights in the main dining room. Most of the well traveled people I know don't feel that they are "playing dress up" and are comfortable in their formal clothing, don't consider it unusual and actually enjoy those evenings.. They also have times when they may not feel like dressing up and are grateful for the many options available for those times. They are real grown ups and go to another venue for the evening .

 

Is it possible to have choices in this world?

 

I don't know what you're reading into my messages but you may want to do a reread. I have not suggested celebrity do away with formal night. I have not suggested that celebrity should try to copy Oceania. I was merely defending that Oceania's dress code is in fact not contributing to the demise of society as had been suggested

[Ma Bell]

I don't know what you're reading into my messages but you may want to do a reread. I have not suggested celebrity do away with formal night. I have not suggested that celebrity should try to copy Oceania. I was merely defending that Oceania's dress code is in fact not contributing to the demise of society as had been suggested

 

No? Why do you find it necessary to make a disparaging remark? Using the phrase "playing dress up" makes it pretty clear how you feel.

[NLH Arizona]

And yet you won't find too many young people on Oceania. They're usually full of very well travelled and well heeled passengers. High end lines are either dropping formal nights or have never had them. I guess the well travelled and well heeled don't need to play dress up on vacation

I have some very well heeled friends (Highland Park, IL) who only cruise Oceania, because they love the dress code on the ships. I keep trying to get them to cruise on Celebrity, but they don't want to bring formal wear, but I'm still hoping one day they will give Celebrity a try...I think they would really like the line, if they just gave it a try. Edited July 18, 2014 by NLH Arizona

[Cruise Junky]

I have some very well heeled friends (Highland Park, IL) who only cruise Oceania, because they love the dress code on the ships. I keep trying to get them to cruise on Celebrity, but they don't want to bring formal wear, but I'm still hoping one day they will give Celebrity a try...I think they would really like the line, if they just gave it a try.

 

And there really are lots of options for non formal wear fans on Celebrity. Keep trying :)

Edited July 18, 2014 by Cruise Junky

[Ma Bell]

Yes, they do. They can dine in the specialty restaurants every night.

[NLH Arizona]

And there really are lots of options for non formal wear fans on Celebrity. Keep trying :)

I understand that there are other options, but the MDR is so much fun, especially on formal night. I'll just keep asking and asking, maybe they will find me such a pain in the behind that they will finally agree, just to keep me quiet LOL!

[Cruise Junky]

I understand that there are other options, but the MDR is so much fun, especially on formal night. I'll just keep asking and asking, maybe they will find me such a pain in the behind that they will finally agree, just to keep me quiet LOL!

 

Our uber rich friends tried Millennium and hated it. I keep trying to talk them into trying an S class. Maybe one day. Their next cruise is 44 days on Seabourn. I couldn't do that long in such a tiny ship with so few dining options

[gek]

Serious question - would those people who enjoy formal nights be happy to pay for the privilege? If, for instance, they switched formal night to the specialty restaurants? If not then just remember that that is what you are asking the anti-formal crowd to do if they wish to have a proper dining experience on formal nights.

 

For the record I am currently happy to pay extra to avoid dressing formally.

[Ma Bell]

Serious question - would those people who enjoy formal nights be happy to pay for the privilege? If, for instance, they switched formal night to the specialty restaurants? If not then just remember that that is what you are asking the anti-formal crowd to do if they wish to have a proper dining experience on formal nights.

 

For the record I am currently happy to pay extra to avoid dressing formally.

 

No one is asking anyone to pay for the privilege of having a proper dining experience on FORMAL NIGHT. All they have to do is put on their clothes. They have the choice. No one has to pay for dinner in the dining room on FORMAL NIGHT if they don't want to. There is FORMAL NIGHT without paying for everyone. The reverse would not be true. I hope you understand the difference.

[dorisis]

Even or uneven, I get it. But at dinner, shorts are shorts and I would rather see the code applied there than not.

 

I would venture that if the male with the polo had shorts on, he too would have been asked to change also.

 

And women can wear skirts that barely cover their behinds yet men can't wear shorts that cover theirs??? Double standards???

[Jane2357]

I guess I'll just never understand why this issue is so divisive. Formal nights are no secret on Celebrity but they also give you avenues to "opt out" if you don't wish to do formal - so shouldn't everyone then be happy? I want to participate in the Formal in the MDR and you can chose to not by going to specialty, buffet or room service. Where it gets all mucked up is those that chose not to participate think it is their job to try to get around the guidelines to prove a point and dumb down the formal experience for others. Why does it bother those that don't wish to do formal that others of us love our formal nights? If you hate formal, don't wish to partake of the non-formal alternatives why keep booking on Celebrity when there are other lines that don't have formal nights? Any formal wear haters that want to explain?

Edited July 18, 2014 by Jane2357

[Guern69]

Isn't the formal nights one of the things that makes Celebrity a bit different...?

[Cruise Junky]

Isn't the formal nights one of the things that makes Celebrity a bit different...?

 

From who? NCL? Then yes. Princess, HAL, Cunard,etc. they all still have formal night

[gek]

I guess I'll just never understand why this issue is so divisive. Formal nights are no secret on Celebrity but they also give you avenues to "opt out" if you don't wish to do formal - so shouldn't everyone then be happy? ...?

 

One reason I cruise Celebrity is because they give non-formal options. However opting out costs me a significant amount of money as I usually have my family with me. It's expensive but I am willing to pay the money because my wife and I feel much more comfortable.

 

If I were to wear to the MDR the same clothes I have worn on land to weddings, fancy restaurants and even charity dinners then I run the risk of being turned away for not having a jacket. I find this ridiculous, but instead I choose to eat elsewhere.

 

The buffet and room service are not an option. I want to have a nice dinner every night with my family. I will therefore book Aqua class or a specialty restaurant.

 

Just don't me to be happy about what I consider to be an unnecessary extra cost.

[iancal]

It is unclear to me why anyone would think that they need to bring clothes appropriate for formal evening in the MDR on a Celebrity cruise.

 

We don't.

 

One of the great things about Celebrity is that they provide options. Those of us who do not wish to participate can simply opt for the buffet or one of the many pay for use dining venues. And we do.

 

Although we do not attend formal nights in the MDR, we see no reason why Celebrity should change this. There are lots of cruisers who enjoy these evenings. Why take away this enjoyment from them?

 

I think one's approach to the issue comes down to open mindedness and flexibility.

Edited July 18, 2014 by iancal

[wpgcycler]

I think one's approach to the issue comes down to open mindedness and flexibility.

 

While I agree with you completely, I can't help but note the rich irony of expecting someone to be open minded and flexible about a policy which would be viewed by many as CLOSED minded and INflexible.

 

(for the record, I personally LOVE the opportunity to wear my tux whether for a typical formal event or, as I will next month, at an Arcade Fire concert :D)

[dkjretired]

It is unclear to me why anyone would think that they need to bring clothes appropriate for formal evening in the MDR on a Celebrity cruise.

 

We don't.

 

One of the great things about Celebrity is that they provide options. Those of us who do not wish to participate can simply opt for the buffet or one of the many pay for use dining venues. And we do.

 

Although we do not attend formal nights in the MDR, we see no reason why Celebrity should change this. There are lots of cruisers who enjoy these evenings. Why take away this enjoyment from them?

 

I think one's approach to the issue comes down to open mindedness and flexibility.

 

Could not have been said better, well done....

[nedward]

I have some very well heeled friends (Highland Park, IL) who only cruise Oceania, because they love the dress code on the ships. I keep trying to get them to cruise on Celebrity, but they don't want to bring formal wear, but I'm still hoping one day they will give Celebrity a try...I think they would really like the line, if they just gave it a try.

 

That's interesting. My family lives in Highland Park, IL and I suggested they sail on Oceania.:)

[NLH Arizona]

That's interesting. My family lives in Highland Park, IL and I suggested they sail on Oceania.:)

Maybe if they do, they will run into my friends. They do 3 or 4 cruises with them a year.

[teecee60]

I think one's approach to the issue comes down to open mindedness and flexibility.

 

You are absolutely correct! ;)

 

So how about having ANYONE and EVERYONE who WANTS to dress formally, dress every bit as formally as they wish. Top Hat, coat with tails, white gloves and cane, anywhere they want, at any time they want, as often as they want.

 

I doubt ANYONE would have ANY problems with that, wouldn't you agree?

 

 

In the supposedly highly prized spirit of "open mindedness and flexibility," lets have the exact same standard for those who don't feel it necessary to play dress up.

 

Why don't I DOUBT at ALL, that some people probably WOULD have a problem with THAT. Wouldn't you agree?

 

 

I can't help but note the rich irony of expecting someone to be open minded and flexible about a policy which would be viewed by many as CLOSED minded and INflexible.

 

An absolutely OUTSTANDING point that CONSTANTLY seems to be COMPLETELY missed by some. :rolleyes:

Edited July 18, 2014 by teecee60

[Ma Bell]

I suppose if you think people just want to dress formally for no apparent reason you could come up with this kind of twisted logic. Most people who are participating in a Formal Night might think it's appropriate to dress in whatever the requirements of the particular venue are. It's a really simple concept. If you don't want to participate, don't go.:) People showing up at a back yard bar-be-cue in formal wear would look just as silly as the other way around. Though that's not ever likely to happen, is it?;)

Edited July 18, 2014 by Ma Bell

[fleckle]

.... If you hate formal, don't wish to partake of the non-formal alternatives why keep booking on Celebrity when there are other lines that don't have formal nights? Any formal wear haters that want to explain?

I am not a formal wear hater, but sometimes travel with others who are, so can easily explain why they keep booking Celebrity.

 

They keep booking Celebrity for all the same reasons that people who do not drink or do not gamble in the casino or use the gym or do not participate in bingo or art auctions or trivia keep booking Celebrity.

 

The formal dress option is a very small part of a Celebrity cruise, involving only a few hours out of the entire cruise.

 

There are many other aspects of Celebrity cruises that attract them, so they are not about to rule out an entire cruise line just because it offers an activity or event that does not appeal to them.