love my grandkids Posted April 16, 2015 #1 Share Posted April 16, 2015 John has been talking about changes and he indicated to me on the Pride a few weeks ago that they were having high level talks about some sort of combination of HA and Princess with CCL. This morning he asked whether this would be of interest and lots and lots of people started jumping up and down with joy. Would be awesome if this happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted April 16, 2015 #2 Share Posted April 16, 2015 John has been talking about changes and he indicated to me on the Pride a few weeks ago that they were having high level talks about some sort of combination of HA and Princess with CCL. This morning he asked whether this would be of interest and lots and lots of people started jumping up and down with joy. Would be awesome if this happened. The programs are fairly different.... Before people start jumping up and down they should understand what it all means.....just sayin;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kicia Posted April 16, 2015 #3 Share Posted April 16, 2015 At first glance, this seems to be a good thing, but be careful what you wish for. Princess and HAL do much longer cruises so the top tiers could be hundreds of days and not just 200 like on Carnival. One world cruise would put you at Diamond status. I think a combination would only hurt most Carnival cruisers. I am hoping for some kind of semi combination whereby you could receive some of the perks of your respective loyalty level but still only accumulate days on each cruise brand. On HAL "short" cruises are 3 weeks or more and that's not something that most Carnival cruisers can do. It could actually alienate some cruisers if they see that the top tier is something they could never achieve. We are going on our first HAL cruise this summer and they are the only CCL brand that counts you as a repeat passenger on your first cruise as long as you've sailed other Carnival brands. We will get to enjoy the embarkation lunch and a Mariner lunch later in the cruise but we won't receive any of our other Diamond perks. Yes, a combination would encourage people to try the other brands but until I know the details I'll still be wary of the final outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruzn buckeye Posted April 16, 2015 #4 Share Posted April 16, 2015 At first glance, this seems to be a good thing, but be careful what you wish for. Princess and HAL do much longer cruises so the top tiers could be hundreds of days and not just 200 like on Carnival. One world cruise would put you at Diamond status. I think a combination would only hurt most Carnival cruisers. I am hoping for some kind of semi combination whereby you could receive some of the perks of your respective loyalty level but still only accumulate days on each cruise brand. On HAL "short" cruises are 3 weeks or more and that's not something that most Carnival cruisers can do. It could actually alienate some cruisers if they see that the top tier is something they could never achieve. We are going on our first HAL cruise this summer and they are the only CCL brand that counts you as a repeat passenger on your first cruise as long as you've sailed other Carnival brands. We will get to enjoy the embarkation lunch and a Mariner lunch later in the cruise but we won't receive any of our other Diamond perks. Yes, a combination would encourage people to try the other brands but until I know the details I'll still be wary of the final outcome. I believe Princess also counts you as a repeat customer if you have cruised Carnival Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westview1 Posted April 16, 2015 #5 Share Posted April 16, 2015 (edited) At first glance, this seems to be a good thing, but be careful what you wish for. Princess and HAL do much longer cruises so the top tiers could be hundreds of days and not just 200 like on Carnival. One world cruise would put you at Diamond status. I think a combination would only hurt most Carnival cruisers. I am hoping for some kind of semi combination whereby you could receive some of the perks of your respective loyalty level but still only accumulate days on each cruise brand. On HAL "short" cruises are 3 weeks or more and that's not something that most Carnival cruisers can do. It could actually alienate some cruisers if they see that the top tier is something they could never achieve. We are going on our first HAL cruise this summer and they are the only CCL brand that counts you as a repeat passenger on your first cruise as long as you've sailed other Carnival brands. We will get to enjoy the embarkation lunch and a Mariner lunch later in the cruise but we won't receive any of our other Diamond perks. Yes, a combination would encourage people to try the other brands but until I know the details I'll still be wary of the final outcome. If you search cruises on HAL you will find cruises that are 6 - 8 days. We did a 7 day to Bermuda 3 years ago on HAL. You may not find anything less than 6 days, but not all their cruises are long. They don't do as many "short" cruises as Carnival, but their target market is different. Edit: I searched and found 3 - 3 day cruises that leave from Vancouver in September. It's unusual for them, but it is possible to find them. Edited April 16, 2015 by carynh new info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare pirate4me2 Posted April 16, 2015 #6 Share Posted April 16, 2015 At first glance, this seems to be a good thing, but be careful what you wish for. Princess and HAL do much longer cruises so the top tiers could be hundreds of days and not just 200 like on Carnival. One world cruise would put you at Diamond status. I think a combination would only hurt most Carnival cruisers. I am hoping for some kind of semi combination whereby you could receive some of the perks of your respective loyalty level but still only accumulate days on each cruise brand. On HAL "short" cruises are 3 weeks or more and that's not something that most Carnival cruisers can do. It could actually alienate some cruisers if they see that the top tier is something they could never achieve. We are going on our first HAL cruise this summer and they are the only CCL brand that counts you as a repeat passenger on your first cruise as long as you've sailed other Carnival brands. We will get to enjoy the embarkation lunch and a Mariner lunch later in the cruise but we won't receive any of our other Diamond perks. Yes, a combination would encourage people to try the other brands but until I know the details I'll still be wary of the final outcome. I agree with you 100%. DH and I can only cruise about 14 days per year, so if the combination of the programs would put upper tiers out or reach for us I would be disappointed. I would however like to see CCL do some kind of program where you get additional points if you book a higher end cabin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love my grandkids Posted April 16, 2015 Author #7 Share Posted April 16, 2015 The programs are fairly different.... Before people start jumping up and down they should understand what it all means.....just sayin;) Last time they changed the loyalty program many of us thought we were collectively screwed. Combining them hard to believe it could be anything but better for all of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare orville99 Posted April 16, 2015 #8 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I could see a combo scheme similar to what RCL, Celebrity and Azamara do working for the Carnival brands. Once you reach a specified level on one brand, you receive the corresponding level of benefits on the other brands, but you only accrue points on the brand you are actually sailing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winddawn Posted April 16, 2015 #9 Share Posted April 16, 2015 And Holland America gives you extra points based on your onboard spending, so technically those aren't cruise days. I wonder how that would factor in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveJake Posted April 16, 2015 #10 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I believe Princess also counts you as a repeat customer if you have cruised Carnival not true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlkubi Posted April 16, 2015 #11 Share Posted April 16, 2015 (edited) I think this could be great! I would love to try Princess but with the Carnival perks (I'll be Diamond on next cruise) it's hard to switch. I think it would encourage people to stay with CCL instead of competition. Edited April 16, 2015 by rlkubi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love my grandkids Posted April 16, 2015 Author #12 Share Posted April 16, 2015 not true Agreed all you get is past guest pricing and stockholder obc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruzn buckeye Posted April 16, 2015 #13 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Agreed all you get is past guest pricing and stockholder obc. That is what I was saying. I was responding to the statement of : " they are the only CCL brand that counts you as a repeat passenger on your first cruise as long as you've sailed other Carnival brands... sorry if I said that wrong :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ready2cruzagain Posted April 16, 2015 #14 Share Posted April 16, 2015 (edited) Works for me, Platinum on Carnival and Princess. Just wondering what perks or benefits we might lose though. There always seems to be a catch.:rolleyes: Edited April 16, 2015 by ready2cruzagain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SadieN Posted April 16, 2015 #15 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Agreed all you get is past guest pricing and stockholder obc. Not true for Past Guest Pricing on Princess. Ran into that for a November cruise. Wish we would get PG pricing. Not too sure how many days the most sailed on Carnival has? Our last Princess cruise the Most Traveled had over 1900 days. We sat with a couple of gentlemen who each had over 700. I'll take my Platinum Carnival perks over my Platinum Princess perks Use the laundry, not the Internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seago2 Posted April 16, 2015 #16 Share Posted April 16, 2015 It would be great for me as I cruise Princess as much as I can, which is not much being from the Northeast, and HAL, too. I would love for those days to combine with my Carnival days in a loyalty program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mississauga Posted April 16, 2015 #17 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I don't know what the HA program is but Princess' a Platinum and Elite levels are easier to get to than Carnival's. It takes 5 completed cruises or 50 days to reach Platinum. To reach Elite, it is 15 completed cruises or 150 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted April 16, 2015 #18 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I don't know what the HA program is but Princess' a Platinum and Elite levels are easier to get to than Carnival's. It takes 5 completed cruises or 50 days to reach Platinum. To reach Elite, it is 15 completed cruises or 150 days. Exactly my point, and HAL's is different still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bury me at sea Posted April 16, 2015 #19 Share Posted April 16, 2015 With Carnival's loyalty program constantly being watered down it is something I have never aspired to climb. Give me a good price ftom close ports and loyalty is meaningless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ready2cruzagain Posted April 16, 2015 #20 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I don't know what the HA program is but Princess' a Platinum and Elite levels are easier to get to than Carnival's. It takes 5 completed cruises or 50 days to reach Platinum. To reach Elite, it is 15 completed cruises or 150 days. Yes but Princess does not offer no where near as much as Carnival. With Carnival Platinum I get free laundry, a chocolate delight, a free gift, priority line at GS, priority tender, etc. With Princess you get priority boarding, a special disembarkation lounge (note...you could set there for hours waiting to get off the ship unlike Carnival Platinum), and complimentary Internet minutes which are great. Platinum on Princess is definitely NOT the same as Carnival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tphitman Posted April 16, 2015 #21 Share Posted April 16, 2015 As mentioned above, would love to get bonus points for booking a larger cabin and for onboard spending. It's all about money after all, so why not get rewarded more for giving Carnival more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budget Queen Posted April 16, 2015 #22 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Flame away, but the programs need to be kept separate. When YOU cruise the numbers of days, then you should get the benefits. The cheerleaders don't get it. Does anyone get that the benefits would HAVE to be way watered down, when 3/4 of the ship passengers have them. How much to the "front of the line" do you think you are going to get when you are now competing with over 1000 other people. There are a lot of merits to the bell curve. Already there are hundreds of platinum cruisers on board the majority of the ships. Diamond numbers are going up. How "special" are you? My benefits reflect that I have sailed Princess enough to be elite, but only a 2 star HAL sailor. I'm Diamond and Elite on RCI and Celebrity, and Platinum on NCL. I personally would like to see more exclusive upper levels. That ARE hard to get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love my grandkids Posted April 16, 2015 Author #23 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Flame away, but the programs need to be kept separate. When YOU cruise the numbers of days, then you should get the benefits. The cheerleaders don't get it. Does anyone get that the benefits would HAVE to be way watered down, when 3/4 of the ship passengers have them. How much to the "front of the line" do you think you are going to get when you are now competing with over 1000 other people. There are a lot of merits to the bell curve. Already there are hundreds of platinum cruisers on board the majority of the ships. Diamond numbers are going up. How "special" are you? My benefits reflect that I have sailed Princess enough to be elite, but only a 2 star HAL sailor. I'm Diamond and Elite on RCI and Celebrity, and Platinum on NCL. I personally would like to see more exclusive upper levels. That ARE hard to get. Many people start with Carnival and move up to higher tier cruise lines. We could go to Princess or HA or we could go with NCL or RCCL. Think it is Carnival's best interest to keep us in the family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.Oceanlover Posted April 16, 2015 #24 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Yes but Princess does not offer no where near as much as Carnival. With Carnival Platinum I get free laundry, a chocolate delight, a free gift, priority line at GS, priority tender, etc. With Princess you get priority boarding, a special disembarkation lounge (note...you could set there for hours waiting to get off the ship unlike Carnival Platinum), and complimentary Internet minutes which are great. Platinum on Princess is definitely NOT the same as Carnival. Since you only need 5 cruises for Platinum on Princess which is the equivalent to being gold on Carnival I think Princess is pretty generous. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyZ Posted April 17, 2015 #25 Share Posted April 17, 2015 (edited) Last time they changed the loyalty program many of us thought we were collectively screwed. Totally agree. After all the tens of thousands of dollars we spent cruising, the only benefit of value I see in reaching platinum is the free bag of laundry each day. Edited April 17, 2015 by LuckyZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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