drarill Posted January 19, 2016 #176 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Hmm, that's interesting. I tried getting a deal from the Dragon's Breath zip line guy but no dice. Later in the afternoon that day, after seeing they were not at all busy with no one in line for a long time, I walked up and said, "looks like you're not very busy today, can you do half-price?" He smiled and said, "same price". Oh well, it was worth a shot :) I wouldn't want to get them into trouble or annoy them with haggling if the price was not at all negotiable. Our group also got a deal at the Aqua-park and we didn't ask for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly Steve Posted January 19, 2016 #177 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I tip extra for shade. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddcan Posted January 19, 2016 #178 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Yep. That explains it. I suspected those Clamshells would have a charge. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk The clamshells are free - at least they have always been free on my 4 trips there. They might pressure you, or make you think otherwise, but they are just like a lounger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLACRUISER99 Posted January 19, 2016 #179 Share Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) I disagree with this. If you don't want to or have the money to tip, just do it yourself. If you let them do it knowing that they are expecting a tip that you know you're not going to give, that is dishonest IMO. No different than someone who pulls their tips on board on the last night after a week's worth of service has already been rendered. Much Different, as RCI's Offical Labadee map clearly states and I quote: "Lounge Chairs: Just as on board , lounge chairs on Labadee are complimentary. They cannot be reserved and guest are asked to refrain from offering payment for the chairs."In fact you should not tip as it is clearly against RCI's wishes. Edited January 19, 2016 by FLACRUISER99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted January 19, 2016 #180 Share Posted January 19, 2016 To each their own. I don't have a beach. I like the beach stops. The ports in the Caribbean are all shopping and Diamonds International. I go to the Caribbean ports for beaches, snorkeling and other water activities. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk I have been out of town. After 53 cruises, 40 in the Caribbean I have seen all those ports many times over. Taken many private tours too. Now I just want to go to the beach in the Caribbean. [emoji1] Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Then you should know that there is far more to these islands than what you said in your first post to me so I don't understand your comment at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted January 19, 2016 #181 Share Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) Much Different, as RCI's Offical Labadee map clearly states and I quote: In fact you should not tip as it is clearly against RCI's wishes. Complaints about this stuff are not rare around here at all. RCI asking their customers to help get the problem under control is ok but it is RCI that needs to get their employees under control. It is RCI's responsibility to fix this. It is their compound and their employees. If RCI really cared I think the problem would be fixed fast. Try walking off the ship at the end of the cruise when RCI is not sure how your seapass account is getting paid and see how far you get. Now that is something that RCI actually cares about. Now, if RCI reads some of the above posts where it seems like their potential income is being diverted into their employees pockets it might grab their attention. And they need to get the dude out of the bathroom because it creeps me out having someone hang out in there with their hand out. They can send someone in every half hour or so to clean things up and restock if necessary. Edited January 19, 2016 by Ocean Boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare fletch1027 Posted January 19, 2016 #182 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Complaints about this stuff are not rare around here at all. RCI asking their customers to help get the problem under control is ok but it is RCI that needs to get their employees under control. It is RCI's responsibility to fix this. It is their compound and their employees. If RCI really cared I think the problem would be fixed fast. Try walking off the ship at the end of the cruise when RCI is not sure how your seapass account is getting paid and see how far you get. Now that is something that RCI actually cares about. Now, if RCI reads some of the above posts where it seems like their potential income is being diverted into their employees pockets it might grab their attention. And they need to get the dude out of the bathroom because it creeps me out having someone hang out in there with their hand out. They can send someone in every half hour or so to clean things up and restock if necessary. I agree with the bathroom guy. I don't mind tipping the beach chair guy, but I don't like my personal space invaded, and a guy watching me pee definitely qualifies. :-) Not to bring up another related topic, but I haven't seen it in this thread yet. I also know people who eat lunch towards the end of the lunch time will sometimes be approached by the band or other locals and asked to get some food off the buffet and give it to them. It happened to me once and I have seen others discuss it at various times on CC. Hopefully RCI will crack down on this as well... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_G Posted January 19, 2016 #183 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Yep, based on everything we've read about Labadee we plan to skip it. We really wish it wasn't on our schedule. We always enjoy Labadee so you may be making a mistake if your decision is based on what you read here. I know I could be wrong but I'd at least check it out. Either way have a great cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruzeluver Posted January 19, 2016 #184 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Surprised to see this. Sounds like a bad apple in the bunch. We have been to Labadee three times and always find it enjoyable. We tend to set up in the same spot at Columbus Cove. The guys offer to set up chairs for us and we give them a couple of bucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who Cares? Posted January 19, 2016 #185 Share Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) Much Different, as RCI's Offical Labadee map clearly states and I quote: In fact you should not tip as it is clearly against RCI's wishes. I fully concur that RCCL says not to tip these folks. Then again, EVERY single person here knows they are expecting a tip when they get a chair for you, regardless of what RCCL's wishes are. All I'm saying is don't lie about it. As the guy reaches to get a chair for you, be honest and say I don't have any tip money for you. If he still gets the chair down and sets it up for you, fine. If not, do it yourself. Don't wait until the work is done and then tell the person no tip is coming. And depending on how one wishes to interpret the passage, the chairs (themselves) are complementary. It states nothing about moving the chairs. So if you do as I do, you see a pile of chairs and you move what you need to your desired location. No tip involved, chair is free. You ask someone to move it around for you IMO, you should tip them or tell them PRIOR to the work that you are not tipping them and then if they still move it, all is good. If they don't, move it yourself. Edited January 19, 2016 by Who Cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelerThom Posted January 19, 2016 #186 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Much Different, as RCI's Offical Labadee map clearly states and I quote: "Lounge Chairs: Just as on board , lounge chairs on Labadee are complimentary. They cannot be reserved and guest are asked to refrain from offering payment for the chairs." In fact you should not tip as it is clearly against RCI's wishes. You used the word "clearly" twice. IF RCI wanted to actually be clear they could have said "guests are asked to refrain from tipping the chair butlers." RCI could have been clear; they were not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted January 19, 2016 #187 Share Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) You used the word "clearly" twice. IF RCI wanted to actually be clear they could have said "guests are asked to refrain from tipping the chair butlers." RCI could have been clear; they were not. Exactly. Those guys have had their hands out for dozens of years and RCI is well aware of it. They do nothing to stop it. Edited January 19, 2016 by Aquahound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrD Posted January 19, 2016 #188 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I fully concur that RCCL says not to tip these folks. Then again, EVERY single person here knows they are expecting a tip when they get a chair for you, regardless of what RCCL's wishes are. All I'm saying is don't lie about it. As the guy reaches to get a chair for you, be honest and say I don't have any tip money for you. If he still gets the chair down and sets it up for you, fine. If not, do it yourself. Don't wait until the work is done and then tell the person no tip is coming. And depending on how one wishes to interpret the passage, the chairs (themselves) are complementary. It states nothing about moving the chairs. So if you do as I do, you see a pile of chairs and you move what you need to your desired location. No tip involved, chair is free. You ask someone to move it around for you IMO, you should tip them or tell them PRIOR to the work that you are not tipping them and then if they still move it, all is good. If they don't, move it yourself. Yeah, and they also say don't reserve loungers, and don't reserve seats in the theater, etc. And we know how that goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marci22 Posted January 20, 2016 #189 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Even as a server, if someone does not tip you, you are not allowed to say anything. It's part of the job. My problem is with any employee who expresses annoyance about no tip or amount of tip. Really, too bad. Get another job if you don't like the one you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moopetguy Posted January 20, 2016 #190 Share Posted January 20, 2016 You used the word "clearly" twice. A quote from "The Princess Bride" comes to mind: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted January 20, 2016 #191 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Sounds like they learnt well from the USA. AND HOW's that a tip, it's a payment for the chair surely. A tip is supposed to be a reward freely given isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
time4u2go Posted January 20, 2016 #192 Share Posted January 20, 2016 (edited) Even as a server, if someone does not tip you, you are not allowed to say anything. It's part of the job. My problem is with any employee who expresses annoyance about no tip or amount of tip. Really, too bad. Get another job if you don't like the one you have. Not allowed by whom? Edited January 20, 2016 by time4u2go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted January 20, 2016 #193 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Complaints about this stuff are not rare around here at all. RCI asking their customers to help get the problem under control is ok but it is RCI that needs to get their employees under control. It is RCI's responsibility to fix this. It is their compound and their employees. If RCI really cared I think the problem would be fixed fast. Try walking off the ship at the end of the cruise when RCI is not sure how your seapass account is getting paid and see how far you get. Now that is something that RCI actually cares about. Now, if RCI reads some of the above posts where it seems like their potential income is being diverted into their employees pockets it might grab their attention. And they need to get the dude out of the bathroom because it creeps me out having someone hang out in there with their hand out. They can send someone in every half hour or so to clean things up and restock if necessary. The bloke in the bathroom always strikes me as creating a job that's not needed and then wanting us to pay him:confused::confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sitzmark Posted January 20, 2016 #194 Share Posted January 20, 2016 We always enjoy Labadee so you may be making a mistake if your decision is based on what you read here. I know I could be wrong but I'd at least check it out. Either way have a great cruise. Between the overpriced attractions, the beach so rocky that people advise wearing water shoes and the beggars, I don't see the appeal. We have beaches on Lake Erie that sound nicer than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted January 20, 2016 #195 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I fully concur that RCCL says not to tip these folks. Then again, EVERY single person here knows they are expecting a tip when they get a chair for you, regardless of what RCCL's wishes are. All I'm saying is don't lie about it. As the guy reaches to get a chair for you, be honest and say I don't have any tip money for you. If he still gets the chair down and sets it up for you, fine. If not, do it yourself. Don't wait until the work is done and then tell the person no tip is coming. And depending on how one wishes to interpret the passage, the chairs (themselves) are complementary. It states nothing about moving the chairs. So if you do as I do, you see a pile of chairs and you move what you need to your desired location. No tip involved, chair is free. You ask someone to move it around for you IMO, you should tip them or tell them PRIOR to the work that you are not tipping them and then if they still move it, all is good. If they don't, move it yourself. Royal says don't pay for it. So no conversation needs to be had regardless. Have you been to labadee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mek Posted January 20, 2016 #196 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Wow, I really don't get why anyone who can spend thousands of dollars on a cruise can have a problem with such a few $'s. I'm happy to not have to drag a chair off a pile and across the sand to find a nice shady spot. Giving someone a couple of bucks to do it for me is a great deal, IMHO. And when it comes to the bathroom attendant, really is 50 cents or a dollar going to impact your lives? Maybe that is the only job opportunity they have. I'm lucky to be me and not them and I don't resent any of the tips I hand out on vacation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freehike Posted January 20, 2016 #197 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Wow, I really don't get why anyone who can spend thousands of dollars on a cruise can have a problem with such a few $'s. I'm happy to not have to drag a chair off a pile and across the sand to find a nice shady spot. Giving someone a couple of bucks to do it for me is a great deal, IMHO. And when it comes to the bathroom attendant, really is 50 cents or a dollar going to impact your lives? Maybe that is the only job opportunity they have. I'm lucky to be me and not them and I don't resent any of the tips I hand out on vacation. For me, it's not the money. It's the principal of someone being rude and demanding money, and if you don't like their attitude, them telling you to do it yourself. It's their job, plain and simple. Would you be okay walking into a restaurant and the server demanding a tip up front before they helped you? As far as the bathroom guys, honestly I don't have a problem with them although I do prefer to get my own paper towel. I live and fly out of Charlotte quite often so I appreciate these guys. Airport bathrooms (at least the guys bathroom, I don't know about the ladies) is one of the most disgusting places in the world. These guys work hard to keep it clean, running in stalls to clean them for the next person after someone just walked out. It's a horrific job and I have no issues throwing him a few bucks every time I go. The difference is they're nice and don't demand a tip before they do their job. They do it, they smile and hope for a tip in return. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who Cares? Posted January 20, 2016 #198 Share Posted January 20, 2016 (edited) Royal says don't pay for it. So no conversation needs to be had regardless. Have you been to labadee? Twice. Most recently last month (love that you don't have to tender anymore......first time was in 2005). I move my own chairs even though the guy is saying he will get them. I know what they are expecting and I'm not paying it so I do my own work. I agree, one does not have to have a conversation. But why not have one unless you feel you are doing something underhanded? What's wrong with being upfront with your plans unless one has something to feel a bit ashamed about. And then those that feign "I forgot my wallet" I call total BS on that. Edited January 20, 2016 by Who Cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who Cares? Posted January 20, 2016 #199 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Wow, I really don't get why anyone who can spend thousands of dollars on a cruise can have a problem with such a few $'s. I'm happy to not have to drag a chair off a pile and across the sand to find a nice shady spot. Giving someone a couple of bucks to do it for me is a great deal, IMHO. And when it comes to the bathroom attendant, really is 50 cents or a dollar going to impact your lives? Maybe that is the only job opportunity they have. I'm lucky to be me and not them and I don't resent any of the tips I hand out on vacation. I spend thousands of dollars on a cruise because I see the value in it and it's something I can't do myself. I don't spend a dollar to tip a guy to move my chair because I don't see the value in it and I can do it myself. If I were too fragile to move my own chair then I might see the value in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted January 20, 2016 #200 Share Posted January 20, 2016 (edited) Wow, I really don't get why anyone who can spend thousands of dollars on a cruise can have a problem with such a few $'s. It's just a petty annoyance like most of the gripes on Cruise Critic. It's not the sort of thing that would stop me from going. Between the overpriced attractions, the beach so rocky that people advise wearing water shoes and the beggars, I don't see the appeal. We have beaches on Lake Erie that sound nicer than this. Certain beaches are rocky. Columbus Cove is nice smooth sand both in and out of the water. Edited January 20, 2016 by Aquahound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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