Cabin Recategorization Coming

[Ken at the beach]

One of "my people" at RCL ( kidding ;)) told me Wednesday

 

 

Midnight or sometime during the day? I like midnight, mistakes tend to happen then and there isn't anyone around to fix them quickly. :)

[Big_G]

We were told yesterday on Adventure that Europe will be out in 4 days and that North America will be out next week.

 

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[molly361]

Midnight or sometime during the day? I like midnight, mistakes tend to happen then and there isn't anyone around to fix them quickly. :)

 

 

She did not say. I don't really think they know the answer

[CRUISEFAN0001]

Are you saying that C&A discounts will remain the same, or that "in play" means there may be [significant] changes in the balcony discounts?

 

Looking at http://creative.rccl.com/Sales/Royal/General_Info/17055533_Recategorization_Trade_Grid.pdf I am seeing major categories (separated by a thick grey horizontal line) of:

Suite

Balcony

Neighborhood

Ocean View

Interior

That implies to me that Neighborhood balcony cabins (notwithstanding the inclusion of the description of XN as Neighborhood Balcony Guarantee) will no longer be considered "Balcony" and lose the C&A Balcony discount. That would indeed be a "big deal" to me, as those are my customary cabins on O-class.

 

It is interesting to note that Boardwalk View and CP View [non balcony] are now listed as "Interior". Promenade View have always been listed as interior, but I don't think that Boardwalk and CP were.

All the sync up with C&A and the new configurations have not yet been completed...it will take a bit longer to get all things in place to align C&A with the "new world order" of the cabins.

[swoopy2110]

You just know their IT department won't have tested this properly and there's going to be loads of issues when it goes live with the new itinaries don't you ?

[Beachammo]

Stopped by the local cruise specialist TA near home here...and they think its a great improvement.

 

Some folks are simply adverse to change...not to mention prone to yell "the sky is falling" for almost everything.

 

Much to do about nothing in terms of it being the big deal some make it out to be...and C&A discounts will indeed be in play according to the TA here.

 

Not adverse to change....just know with all the extra subcategories that my preferred cabin (aft / corner aft) will be at the highest price in each category instead of just being grouped with the rest of the D1's, E1's, or JS's.

 

With less cabins in each subcategory that means the chances for a price reduction is reduced also.

 

I'm surprised it took Royal this long to put this in place. It's cost them many dollars through the years.

 

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[BuckeyeCruiseGuy]

You just know their IT department won't have tested this properly and there's going to be loads of issues when it goes live with the new itinaries don't you ?

 

 

Which will probably lead to multiple pricing errors, so let's keep our fingers crossed they live up to our expectations lol

[travelgoddess1]

Stopped by the local cruise specialist TA near home here...and they think its a great improvement.

 

Some folks are simply adverse to change...not to mention prone to yell "the sky is falling" for almost everything.

 

Much to do about nothing in terms of it being the big deal some make it out to be...and C&A discounts will indeed be in play according to the TA here.

 

 

I guess it depends on whose ox is being gored. Are we not here to express diverse opinions? As a long-time cruiser with this line, I do speak from some experience on how well some of the previous changes have been rolled out to the public. :eek:

[MindyJohn]

I remember years ago when United tried to implement "Wilma" boarding. Window/Middle/Aisle (seats) board in that order. It had a lot of problems and was discontinued. I'm looking forward to AA's new boarding system, but first, I'll have to book an AA flight. I can't even remember the last time I had no future flights booked on them.:eek:

Do you use AA for Hawaii besides Florida? I actually thought that Window boarding stuff made a lot of sense.

 

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[travelgoddess1]

Do you use AA for Hawaii besides Florida? I actually thought that Window boarding stuff made a lot of sense.

 

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I have in the past, but not this year. They send old, small aircraft to Hawaii, at least out of LAX. This year I am on Delta, with lie-flat seats in FC on a 767.

[MindyJohn]

I have in the past, but not this year. They send old, small aircraft to Hawaii, at least out of LAX. This year I am on Delta, with lie-flat seats in FC on a 767.

I agree - 757 is unpleasant for a long flight.

 

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[John&LaLa]

I agree - 757 is unpleasant for a long flight.

 

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I read 787 was the way to go long haul. Something about pressurizing the cabin at a lower elevation than most planes can.

 

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[travelgoddess1]

I read 787 was the way to go long haul. Something about pressurizing the cabin at a lower elevation than most planes can.

 

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Doubtful they would put those planes on a West Coast to Hawaii route. I remember when we flew full 747's and DC-10's to the islands. Good times. :)

[TravelerThom]

I read 787 was the way to go long haul. Something about pressurizing the cabin at a lower elevation than most planes can.

The 787 carbon fibre body allows pressurization equivalent to 6000 ft; most planes can't pressurize to less than 7500 - 8000 feet without excessive metal fatigue. In October I flew Washington to Tokyo in an ANA 777 with 34 inch pitch in standard coach (my other option for same price was a UA 777 with 31 inch pitch). I connected to an ANA 787 from Tokyo to Bangkok with 31 inch pitch. I like the additional air at 6000 ft equivalent, but not as much as I appreciated the 3 inches of extra leg room.

 

6 hours in a 757 is no fun, but if I'm headed to Kona or Lihue, I'll take a 757 over a wide body into HNL and then a transfer out island. (and it is not nearly as noisey as hopping across the Pacific in a C-130)

[TonyL128]

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[John&LaLa]

Looks like United is my best bet for a 787 into Sydney next year.

 

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[The_Big_M]

Looks like United is my best bet for a 787 into Sydney next year.

 

 

 

Alternatively take one of the A380s from the US to Australia. Even better!

[Biker19]

I agree - 757 is unpleasant for a long flight.

 

 

...unless you are on Trump's 757.;)

[RCenthusiast]

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Hijacked to another continent

 

 

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[linkerbink]

We will see how the IT department manages this little change.

 

:eek:;p

[MindyJohn]

I read 787 was the way to go long haul. Something about pressurizing the cabin at a lower elevation than most planes can.

 

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The selling point for 787's is long range at good economy. Airline planners put them on very long haul business routes. As a leisure destination Hawaii doesn't get the latest and greatest for equipment.

Alternatively take one of the A380s from the US to Australia. Even better!

Indeed!!! Qantas A380 is a fantastic flight, even in economy.

 

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[John&LaLa]

The selling point for 787's is long range at good economy. Airline planners put them on very long haul business routes. As a leisure destination Hawaii doesn't get the latest and greatest for equipment.

 

Indeed!!! Qantas A380 is a fantastic flight, even in economy.

 

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I believe it is the A350 that has the composite body that allows higher cabin pressure though. Are any domestic airlines flying that plane yet?

[molly361]

WOW I went to bed last night and this thread was about RCL reclassifying their cabins- I wake up this morning and the thread has turned into Aircraft cabin reconfigurations:rolleyes::eek: What a difference a day makes!!

[Clarea]

I believe it is the A350 that has the composite body that allows higher cabin pressure though. Are any domestic airlines flying that plane yet?

 

 

I don't think that any US domestic airlines are flying the A350 yet. United and Delta have the -1000 models on order, but I don't believe they have been delivered yet.

[John&LaLa]

WOW I went to bed last night and this thread was about RCL reclassifying their cabins- I wake up this morning and the thread has turned into Aircraft cabin reconfigurations:rolleyes::eek: What a difference a day makes!!

 

 

Have you visited the 2018 deployment thread lately? :eek:

 

At least here we are discussing semi valuable information on how to get to a cruise port. ;)