how strict are they on age in the bars?

[kc58ab]

From the Carnival Website (Age Restrictions On Board FAQ):

 

• "Guests must be 21 years of age or older to be in the “Serenity” adults-only area."
  

• Guests under the age of 18 may not attend the Late Night Shows, which are "R" rated.
  

And, from your Cruise Contract:

Guest acknowledges receipt of Carnival’s applicable brochures and travel information and agrees to abide by the terms and conditions of not just this Contract, but also the information contained in Carnival’s brochures and website, including but not limited to the information contained in the “Frequently Asked Questions”

So, can we all agree it's at least a "term and condition" if not a "rule". And certainly more than a suggestion.

Interestingly enough, the website also says,

• Guests under the age of 18 should be accompanied by an adult in all public areas of the ship.
  

Good things my kids are all 18+! I can leave them unattended.

Even more fun:

"Minor children 16 years of age and older may debark the ship in port without a parent or guardian."

So, apparently your 16 year old is allowed to debark the ship, but you have to accompany him or her to the gangplank?

Good info. And some hilarity to boot. :')

[kc58ab]

as I said, there is a 'teacher' on this forum that TEACHES his students to learn the rules and then make up their own rules.

 

THAT is where this generation is headed. Right and wrong doesnt matter... just make up your own rules :mad:

 

You keep mentioning this teacher; who is this said teacher and what did they say that offended you so much.

[CruiseGal999]

I called over the manager and told him if children were allowed to take an "adult" seat at the bar, then they didn't need my business...never went back and the place closed up.

 

Wow .... you must drink A LOT! :')

[firemanbobswife]

Idk what quest is so can't comment there. Gambling is like drinking fed law controls that. Not the same as some cussing in comedy or lounging in the serenity area. I have been to Comedy on every cruise I've been on recently I was just on one in March and that is exactly what it was mature audiences. Looking at your signature line it doesn't look like we've been on the same ship so I don't know if there's any difference between them or not.

 

And just like in the adult comedy shows, Matt says if you are under 18 or easily offended (as in over 18 and easily offended) you have to leave.

[Saint Greg]

Here is the issue with the 18+ Comedy Show, again, my opinion. There is a huge range of comics. Some of them are relatively tame. I have seen other comics that are graphic. Not saying they aren't funny, they are, but they can be BRUTAL and nothing is off limits. One of the cruises I was on, cant remember his name, but this woman heckled him. It wasn't even a bad heckle. He told an off color joke and said something to the effect of "that wasn't that funny"....apparently she said it in somewhat of a snotty voice and he proceeded to go off on her. I was both crying from laughter and embarrassed for her because he was relentless. Think Dice Clay on steroids as far as raunchy. Every sexual innuendo and her body parts he was all over to the point that she walked out, and I think she was on the verge of crying, followed by her husband. I can only imagine that comics may have some unwritten rules to who is off limits, but that would have been brutal if some 17 yr old girl was the subject of this comics jokes

 

 

 

Oh yeah. There is a comic I've had on two of my cruises and both times his first adult show is very x-rated...the entire show.

 

 

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[firemanbobswife]

Oh yeah. There is a comic I've had on two of my cruises and both times his first adult show is very x-rated...the entire show.

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I've experienced that as well. I even felt uncomfortable with my mom!

[bajae]

Deleted my first post since I just read someone else posted the same info.

 

I will add that I agree with most. Adult means Adult, not a well behaved almost adult.

Edited July 13, 2017 by bajae

[kc58ab]

The contract you signed section 2(d) 'Guest acknowledges receipt of Carnival's applicable brochures and travel information and agrees to abide by the terms and conditions of not just this Contract, but also the information contained in Carnival's brochures and website, including but not limited to the information contained in the "Frequently Asked Questions" and "Embarkation Information" sections.'

 

IMO you signed the contract saying you will abide by the age limits Carnival has posted. This is a legal contract that when you sign it you agreed to follow it.

 

 

 

 

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You are a bit late to the punch on this one someone already beat you to it.

 

As I already stated my kids will be 18 and 21 on our next Cruise so this is a mute point for me going forward.

 

Although in all honesty I probably would take them again even if they weren't. Just saying I'm sure when you sign for your driver's license agreeing to the rules and regulations on the road that you have broke some of them.

 

Maybe I will feel guilty or take more consideration to the opinion when I have someone who has a spotless record of no rule breaking.

 

I just don't get people acting like it's murder or something no one stole, no one lied, and no one caused anybody any harm here.

[kc58ab]

Deleted my first post since I just read someone else posted the same info.

 

I will add that I agree with most. Adult means Adult, not a well behaved almost adult.

 

Adult? I don't believe you have to be 21 to be a legal adult. And actually you can be considered an adult legally at 17 and even younger in some cases.

[firemanbobswife]

You are a bit late to the punch on this one someone already beat you to it.

As I already stated my kids will be 18 and 21 on our next Cruise so this is a mute point for me going forward.

Although in all honesty I probably would take them again even if they weren't. Just saying I'm sure when you sign for your driver's license agreeing to the rules and regulations on the road that you have broke some of them.

Maybe I will feel guilty or take more consideration to the opinion when I have someone who has a spotless record of no rule breaking.

I just don't get people acting like it's murder or something no one stole, no one lied, and no one caused anybody any harm here.

Well I hope you are all able to get into the shows you want to see and aren't denied entry because someone feels it's OK to break the rules after you've been standing in line for 40 min. You may never know if that was the real reason you didn't get in, as some kids look older like you said. But it still doesn't make it right.

[Saint Greg]

she told me she was 25!!!!

 

 

 

Happened to you too?

 

 

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[kc58ab]

Well I hope you are all able to get into the shows you want to see and aren't denied entry because someone feels it's OK to break the rules after you've been standing in line for 40 min. You may never know if that was the real reason you didn't get in, as some kids look older like you said. But it still doesn't make it right.

 

As I said earlier, you can stand along the walls. I have done that before after standing in line bc I wanted to see the show. I've seen many do that. I've never actually seen people turned away, and I have gone to multiple showing over the last 4 years on cruises so I fail to believe this is reality anyway.

 

I also don't feel bad on that regard because I pay the same price for my kids at that you do. There isn't a discount for children because they are excluded from some activities. If there is a legal issue to exclude them that is different. If they were causing ppl to not be able to enjoy said activity that is different.

 

Last cruise I was on I didn't get a chair in Serenity after several times of going over a course of several days. I could complain and say it isn't fair one person can stay there all day and I don't get a turn. That might have some truth to it, but they also paid like I did and got there first so it is what it is.

[Saint Greg]

As I said earlier, you can stand along the walls. I have done that before after standing in line bc I wanted to see the show. I've seen many do that. I've never actually seen people turned away, and I have gone to multiple showing over the last 4 years on cruises so I fail to believe this is reality anyway.

 

 

 

I also don't feel bad on that regard because I pay the same price for my kids at that you do. There isn't a discount for children because they are excluded from some activities. If there is a legal issue to exclude them that is different. If they were causing ppl to not be able to enjoy said activity that is different.

 

 

 

Last cruise I was on I didn't get a chair in Serenity after several times of going over a course of several days. I could complain and say it isn't fair one person can stay there all day and I don't get a turn. That might have some truth to it, but they also paid like I did and got there first so it is what it is.

 

 

 

If you haven't seen people turned away from comedy, you probably haven't been on fantasy class. I've seen happen on Elation. And I think I read with it's next round of upgrades they're going to move the comedy club to the dance club which is even smaller.

 

I've looked at Fantasy and the area that was the comedy club on Elation was cut in half...so I'm sure they have problems.

 

 

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[firemanbobswife]

As I said earlier, you can stand along the walls. I have done that before after standing in line bc I wanted to see the show. I've seen many do that. I've never actually seen people turned away, and I have gone to multiple showing over the last 4 years on cruises so I fail to believe this is reality anyway.

 

I also don't feel bad on that regard because I pay the same price for my kids at that you do. There isn't a discount for children because they are excluded from some activities. If there is a legal issue to exclude them that is different. If they were causing ppl to not be able to enjoy said activity that is different.

 

Last cruise I was on I didn't get a chair in Serenity after several times of going over a course of several days. I could complain and say it isn't fair one person can stay there all day and I don't get a turn. That might have some truth to it, but they also paid like I did and got there first so it is what it is.

 

I have in fact seen people get turned away. Especially the ones that have to exit the Lounge from the previous show. People start lining up 40 minutes or more and it's all the way down past the casino bar. No way are the ones that just got out getting a seat or even standing.

 

True, we all pay the same price. And I do it going in with the expectation that the adult shows will be for the correct audience amongst the other "adult only" things. So yes, it does affect the enjoyment of adults as previous posters have already stated. Also I'm sure there could be some legal issue that someone would look to bring because everyone is sue happy these days saying little Susie was offended because the comedian was making lewd, sexual remarks and now she's scarred for life. Actually there are adults that dare to complain the same thing to JH. Unbelievable!

 

I don't complain that I don't get to make sand art or color t-shirts in camp even though I pay the same price. Because that's for kids. Leave the adults to have their thing as per the cruise ticket contract that has been previously posted.

 

I really can't understand why it's so hard just to follow the damn rules? Oh never mind, I think we already discussed that.

[fuddrules]

as I said, there is a 'teacher' on this forum that TEACHES his students to learn the rules and then make up their own rules.

 

THAT is where this generation is headed. Right and wrong doesnt matter... just make up your own rules :mad:

 

This generation?

 

From one of our founding fathers:

 

I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing.....

[kc58ab]

I have in fact seen people get turned away. Especially the ones that have to exit the Lounge from the previous show. People start lining up 40 minutes or more and it's all the way down past the casino bar. No way are the ones that just got out getting a seat or even standing.

 

True, we all pay the same price. And I do it going in with the expectation that the adult shows will be for the correct audience amongst the other "adult only" things. So yes, it does affect the enjoyment of adults as previous posters have already stated. Also I'm sure there could be some legal issue that someone would look to bring because everyone is sue happy these days saying little Susie was offended because he comedian was making lewd, sexual remarks and now she's scarred for life. Actually there are adults that dare to complain the same thing to JH. Unbelievable!

 

I don't complain that I don't get to make sand art or color t-shirts in camp even though I pay the same price. Because that's for kids. Leave the adults to have their thing as per the cruise ticket contract that has been previously posted.

 

I really can't understand why it's so hard just to follow the damn rules? Oh never mind, I think we already discussed that.

 

So let me get this straight, you think people who were already watching a show that have to exit and get back into line for the next show I should feel bad if they don't get a seat on the 2nd show? If so, it won't happen. And I say that when I have done this and stood. I've also seen where they didn't make ppl exit bc it isn't that busy, for example several of the late shows that I went to with my 17 yr old. I've never seen anyone turned away, I have seen ppl leave bc they wanted to sit and not too close to anyone else.

 

I doubt many adults enjoy the entertainment meant for elementary school age children, yet "kids" 16 and 17 clearly could enjoy Comedy or Serenity area as an adult would so again not really comparable to me.

 

Yes, we have discussed it. And again when someone can say they have never broke a rule then they can question the ones I have and I might care what they think. Until then, and unlikely at best that exists, it is just more of you are not as moral as me and what you did is worse than mine which seems a bit hypercritic. :evilsmile:

[firemanbobswife]

So let me get this straight, you think people who were already watching a show that have to exit and get back into line for the next show I should feel bad if they don't get a seat on the 2nd show? If so, it won't happen. And I say that when I have done this and stood. I've also seen where they didn't make ppl exit bc it isn't that busy, for example several of the late shows that I went to with my 17 yr old. I've never seen anyone turned away, I have seen ppl leave bc they wanted to sit and not too close to anyone else.

 

I doubt many adults enjoy the entertainment meant for elementary school age children, yet "kids" 16 and 17 clearly could enjoy Comedy or Serenity area as an adult would so again not really comparable to me.

 

Yes, we have discussed it. And again when someone can say they have never broke a rule then they can question the ones I have and I might care what they think. Until then, and unlikely at best that exists, it is just more of you are not as moral as me and what you did is worse than mine which seems a bit hypercritic. :evilsmile:

 

I am totally onboard with making them clear out after each show. However, they are 2 different ones and if they want to get back in line to see the second one, then they should be able to if there are seats. Seats which should be available to the adults that are supposed to be there.

 

There are plenty of adults that troubling as it may seem want to color and do "happy" things to soothe their traumatized little minds. So who am I to say they should be denied? They paid the same price, right? Just like we paid to have the adult areas be for the proper ages. First it was just a guideline, then it's determined it is more or less a rule and you agree to abide by it by taking the cruise. But now it's because everyone pays the same price, everyone gets treated the same and a trophy. So where should the cut off be? 16? But my sweet baby looks 16 never mind they are only 14. It doesn't matter, right? See it's a never ending slippery slope.

 

I can say I never broke a rule on a ship at least not that I am aware of. And that's the truth believe it or not. I go to the muster drill even though I've been on the same ship 8 times and the same cabins multiple times, I don't go out and put my towel on a deck chair and walk away for hours, I didn't allow my child to go to adult shows, etc. It's a week on a ship. It's not that hard to do.

Edited July 14, 2017 by firemanbobswife

[PattBenatar]

This has a bit of a self-righteous air to it. Stealing food or drinks from bubbles is a ridiculous comparison to going to Comedy or serenity. Nowhere near the same. My children have witnessed me correcting places when they don't charge me for something and returning wallet, cash, or even ipod once that I found. I highly doubt allowing them to go to a couple places on a cruise ship teaches them to steal or lie. If anyone would have asked their age they would have told the truth.

I also highly doubt that you've never done anything that some terms indicated differently. This is in comparison to the people of your mindset that like to say speeding isn't a good example. I bet you have sped somewhere and that actually has ability to maybe cause bodily harm what bodily harm am I causing to someone.

 

It is exact same thing, it is a rule. You can choose to teach your children rules don't apply to them or tell them they are not allowed. You can not pick and choose what rule or law to break and expect children to learn the difference.

t

[kc58ab]

I am totally onboard with making them clear out after each show. However, they are 2 different ones and if they want to get back in line to see the second one, then they should be able to if there are seats. Seats which should be available to the adults that are supposed to be there.

 

There are plenty of adults that troubling as it may seem want to color and do "happy" things to soothe their traumatized little minds. So who am I to say they should be denied? They paid the same price, right? Just like we paid to have the adult areas be for the proper ages. First it was just a guideline, then it's determined it is more or less a rule and you agree to abide by it by taking the cruise. But now it's because everyone pays the same price, everyone gets treated the same and a trophy. So where should the cut off be? 16? But my sweet baby looks 16 never mind they are only 14. It doesn't matter, right? See it's a never ending slippery slope.

 

I can say I never broke a rule on a ship. And that's the truth believe it or not. I go to the muster drill even though I've been on the same ship 8 times and the same cabins multiple times, I don't go out and put my towel on a deck chair and walk away for hours, I didn't allow my child to go to adult shows, etc. It's a week on a ship. It's not that hard to do.

 

Again I have never seen anyone not be able to see a show.

 

I didn't say it was a guideline, I said how do we know it isn't (in all fun). If I have to stick to only one reason why to do it, then you only get to have one why I shouldn't.

 

Sure if an adult mentality (not saying you in particular) is the same as a young child and they want to embrace the activities meant to entertain children then go for it I personally wouldn't mind. I think it is pretty easy to see say 16 and 18 would enjoy similar entertainment. Probably not that way with say a 16 yr old and 6 yr old. But hey if you have a 16 year that wants to hang in Circle C with the elementary age kids I vote let him. My 16 year won't be there though....

 

It isn't hard to do for a week, but if there is a time I more likely to do what I want it will be on vacation.

[kc58ab]

It is exact same thing, it is a rule. You can choose to teach your children rules don't apply to them or tell them they are not allowed. You can not pick and choose what rule or law to break and expect children to learn the difference.

t

 

I guess with that then all our children are doomed and will be liars, thieves, etc bc EVERYONE breaks some rules SOMETIME. If you want to continue to convince yourself you are perfect, the exception, then go ahead. But I guarantee that mentality will have far worse outcome on your children than letting them go to a comedy show or serenity deck. :halo: :')

[firemanbobswife]

Again I have never seen anyone not be able to see a show.

 

I didn't say it was a guideline, I said how do we know it isn't (in all fun). If I have to stick to only one reason why to do it, then you only get to have one why I shouldn't.

 

Sure if an adult mentality (not saying you in particular) is the same as a young child and they want to embrace the activities meant to entertain children then go for it I personally wouldn't mind. I think it is pretty easy to see say 16 and 18 would enjoy similar entertainment. Probably not that way with say a 16 yr old and 6 yr old. But hey if you have a 16 year that wants to hang in Circle C with the elementary age kids I vote let him. My 16 year won't be there though....

 

It isn't hard to do for a week, but if there is a time I more likely to do what I want it will be on vacation.

 

Well maybe someday you will see people get turned away and then you can understand the frustration a little more. I can assure you it has and does happen.

 

The only reason I need for you not to do it is because it says it's not allowed. There really isn't a reason that is higher up on the totem pole so to speak than that.

 

I realize it's your vacation but it's also mine. If everyone did what they were supposed to, it would be much better. I have said my piece and made my point. That is all. Happy cruising!

[hftmrock]

You keep mentioning this teacher; who is this said teacher and what did they say that offended you so much.

 

Im not going going to call him out. He is on the site and comments from time to time.

 

 

He said exactly what I said he said. That he teaches his students about rules and then for them to make their own rules. Following a rule is only an option for him and his teachings.

 

I posted it here to show where we are headed as a society. Its not just entitled parents that show by example that their children don't have to follow rules... our educators are also teaching it.

 

He didn't offend me at all, however he is the epitome of discussions like this where many people are scheming on how to break the next rule and the ultimate repercussions to the people that do follow the rules

[PattBenatar]

I guess with that then all our children are doomed and will be liars, thieves, etc bc EVERYONE breaks some rules SOMETIME. If you want to continue to convince yourself you are perfect, the exception, then go ahead. But I guarantee that mentality will have far worse outcome on your children than letting them go to a comedy show or serenity deck. :halo: :')

 

I love your post on the other thread how to circumvent the "Cheers" rule. That was priceless.

[kc58ab]

Well maybe someday you will see people get turned away and then you can understand the frustration a little more. I can assure you it has and does happen.

 

The only reason I need for you not to do it is because it says it's not allowed. There really isn't a reason that is higher up on the totem pole so to speak than that.

 

I realize it's your vacation but it's also mine. If everyone did what they were supposed to, it would be much better. I have said my piece and made my point. That is all. Happy cruising!

 

I don't believe my actions have caused anyone to not be able to attend any show nor not be able to enjoy their time in the comedy show or Serenity area as if it had I'm sure they would have questioned us on their ages. So I don't know that if I hadn't done it if would have improved anyone's vacation, but it was have made mine less enjoyable.

 

You won't have to need me not to do it bc my children are now "old enough" to do go to the areas they want with your blessing.

 

Yes, I think we both have said our peace and made many points. To you as well...

[kc58ab]

I love your post on the other thread how to circumvent the "Cheers" rule. That was priceless.

 

What are you talking about? Have you been drinking? I don't buy Cheers nor do I drink regularly. Nice attempt to redirect...feel free to link this said post...